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« on: March 12, 2003, 02:22:17 PM »
ect. ect. ect.... I understand the 25 cal. the 30 cal. on up.. but what does the /06 stand for.....?

Thanks for listening to an ignorant question from a guy who's been shooting a 30/06 for the better part of 7 years now. I had a guy at work ask me what the /06 stood for. I felt like an idiot. I almost tilted my head sideways so I could look more ignorant than I already felt.

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2003, 02:45:36 PM »
According to one of the Sierra reloading manuals I have it states:  Introduced in 1906 the 30-06 cartridge has been the most popular military cartridge and still is the most popular sporting cartridge ever developed.  Im sure that since that manual was written some changes may have been made as to popularity but I doubt it but anyhow it was introduced in 1906 thats where the ( 06 ) comes from. :D   JIM

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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2003, 02:54:31 PM »
but what of the 25/06.. 338/06 and all the other /06's there are?

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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2003, 03:05:35 PM »
based on the 30-06 case. The 30-06 gained it's name by the year the Army adopted it, 1906 and it was a .30 caliber bore, it actually started life as a 30-03 when it was first produced in 1903, but the 06 stuck 'cause that's what the Army called it. If you use the 30-06 case and neck it down or up then the new cartridge, by convention, is sometimes called the XX-06. Doesn't have to be just what a lot of folks use, the 7mm TCU, 358 Bellm, 309JDJ, etc stand for the guys that developed them even though the brass is based on another cartridge (444 Marlin, 223).
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2003, 03:14:19 PM »
You get all the others by taking a MT 30-06 case and expand or reduce the neck area to accomadate the bullet caliber you intend to use in your rifle of course your rifle has to have that caliber hole in the barrel or it will be a problem. :D   JIM

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2003, 03:15:14 PM »
Thanks... I may again hold my head high at work (being one of the few hunters/gun buyers). I truely hate when someone asks a gun/rifle question that I should know, but don't because the question has never come across my mind (simple minds, simple questions I guess).

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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2003, 03:25:11 PM »
I think this forum has shown its class once again.  As many of you know from my posts, I ask lots of questions, and never once have I been ridiculed.  I kind of assumed everyone new what the /06 stood for, but someone has asked and no one has ridiculed, unlike what I might expect out of a couple other forums out there, way to go guys, it gives this forum what us education experts call a "risk free environment" to this forum.  That's PC educator talk for "don't be scared to ask questions, even if they might be basic or ignorant"
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2003, 04:17:11 AM »
A well known psychologist and best selling author, Nathaniel Branden, is a shooter and gun  collector. He once told me that the "psychological profile" of shooters is very different from the popular conception.  He said it would make an intersting book on how gunowners,  one of the most vilified groups in history, are actually among the most courteous, supportive and law abiding groups of people in modern society.

Just look at the issue of sports violence.  Drunkeness, fist fights, vandalism and other anti-social behavior are so prevalent  in connection with the major sports and even high school and college athletics that this conduct is accepted as routine and is only news when it involves rioting on a major level, such as when mobs rioted in downtown Los Angeles after a Lakers game and college riots in MIchigan after a football game.  

When was the last time you heard of any rioting, fist fighting  or drunken rowdiness in connection with the shooting sports?  Shooters, as a group, are  among the most  civil,  courteous and law abiding groups  of people today.

Over the years I have talked to many teenagers who were solicited to buy drugs on campus  from their friendly high school drug dealers  and who told me that the identities of  campus drug dealers  was common knowledge among most students.(Teenagers are the last people in the world to keep a secret.)  I have always wonderd why campus drug dealers are so well known to everyone except narcotics detectives?  

I have never known anyone in the shooting sports who was into drugs and have never heard of a teenager (or anyone else) who was solicited to buy drugs in connection with the shooting sports.  Amazing that parents who recoil in horror at the idea of their kids  going shooting are perfectly OK with their going to rock concerts, football games, and high school dances where drugs and alcohol flow so freely and  fist-fights and vandalism are so prevalent.

   Alas, I preach to the choir.

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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2003, 04:46:16 AM »
Advocate,
As I read your post the image of a ruckus at a shooting match flashed into my "too many micro-g's" brain :grin: . Bunch of guys trying to shoot for score hoisting a few, getting mad and going after each other. :)  Don't think it'd last too long before 98% had bullet holes in them :-D ...expert shooters, shooting at each other...extra points for head shots :-D  :-D ?

Sobering thought, maybe an armed society is a polite society...oops somebody already said that. I agree with you 100% Advocate, just that image makes me chuckle.

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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2003, 05:40:37 AM »
Quote from: Advocate
A well known psychologist and best selling author, Nathaniel Branden, is a shooter and gun  collector. He once told me that the "psychological profile" of shooters is very different from the popular conception.  He said it would make an intersting book on how gunowners,  one of the most vilified groups in history, are actually among the most courteous, supportive and law abiding groups of people in modern society.

Just look at the issue of sports violence.  Drunkeness, fist fights, vandalism and other anti-social behavior are so prevalent  in connection with the major sports and even high school and college athletics that this conduct is accepted as routine and is only news when it involves rioting on a major level, such as when mobs rioted in downtown Los Angeles after a Lakers game and college riots in MIchigan after a football game.  

When was the last time you heard of any rioting, fist fighting  or drunken rowdiness in connection with the shooting sports?  Shooters, as a group, are  among the most  civil,  courteous and law abiding groups  of people today.

Over the years I have talked to many teenagers who were solicited to buy drugs on campus  from their friendly high school drug dealers  and who told me that the identities of  campus drug dealers  was common knowledge among most students.(Teenagers are the last people in the world to keep a secret.)  I have always wonderd why campus drug dealers are so well known to everyone except narcotics detectives?  

I have never known anyone in the shooting sports who was into drugs and have never heard of a teenager (or anyone else) who was solicited to buy drugs in connection with the shooting sports.  Amazing that parents who recoil in horror at the idea of their kids  going shooting are perfectly OK with their going to rock concerts, football games, and high school dances where drugs and alcohol flow so freely and  fist-fights and vandalism are so prevalent.

   Alas, I preach to the choir.


Well said Advocate!
If you haven't seen this before, take a look at this sad state of affairs as told by IronKnees...........

I have a bit of a quandary... Our oldest daughter and her hubby (who I love and respect dearly) are not keen on my only grandson being introduced to shooting, guns, hunting etc... It has of course been my lifelong dream to do with Isaac, the same as my fathers friend did with me, and begin teaching him how to respect nature, respect the land and wildlife, and then the long, drawn out procedure of teaching him how to shoot, and eventually hunt... I want to respect his parents wishes, and really have no clue how to approach this... I've thought of taking Rob (his dad) along to the shooting range and working with him a bit in order to show him that this is not a "carefree" haphazard thing, but he is so bone headed and into other sports that I can't seem to get him out of his Sunday afternoon chair.... I only have one grandson.. Any "digestions"???
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2003, 06:49:28 AM »
Hey, SavageT,

That's a tough nut to crack.  I know the "sportsfan" type, and  trying to reason with him by pointing out that many sports personalities enjoy the shooting and hunting sports might not  help.

Have you introduced your grandson to the shooting sports by signing him up as a Jr. NRA member?  Kids love to read and learn about things they find interesting.  What could be more interesting to most boys than a love of the outdoors and a he-man interest such as shooting and hunting?  Long chats with Grandpa are next once you've established his curiosity.  Show him your guns and reloading equipment.  If his Dad's idea of father-and-son quality time is going to a ballgame, then you might ask to go along too.  The next weekend, suggest that everyone go to the shooting range.  With grandson's support and desire to do things with his Dad and Grandad, you've got it!

I really believe that young boys have a natural curiosity and interest in weapons and the outdoors.  When I taught junior high school, almost all the boys were either shooters or wanted to learn.  Working the male-bonding thing is how I would do it.

My youngest is now 18, in university, and he still remembers the times we spent with his grandfather shooting tin cans in the backyard.  Grandad was in a wheelchair and too feeble to cock and hold the BB gun so my son did it for him.  Some people might think that a peculiar thing for kids to remember about their grandfather, but we don't.

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2003, 04:35:38 AM »
I just read that when the M1903 Springfield was introduced, it was chambered for the .30/03 cartridge, but that it had a problem burning out the bores, so they made some modifications to the round that were standardized and accepted by the Army in 1906, which gave us the .30 caliber of 1906.  M1903s chambered for the old .30/03 had to be re-fitted for the new .30/06 caliber.

That's what the article said anyway...  :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2003, 05:45:27 PM »
SavageT, I grew up around guns and liked to shoot them everytime I got a chance. The one thing that imprinted on me that made me a shooter was seeing a bench of reloading equipment. I think he was using the old Lyman Nut Cracker. I remember he had a wooden bowl with  powder and a scoup and a bowl of spent pistol cases. That was the first time I knew that you could reload fired cases. It was years later when I was in college that I bought a Lee loader and started reloading. I did not have anyone to teach me. I just read and figured it out for myself. Today when I built my new house, the gun room was the first consideration. It's a nice un. It has been forty years since I saw that reloading bench. May be you can get your grandson interested in shooting sports through the back door. Let him help you reload some shells. That is the way I worked on my nephews. I would give them bullets. One nephew when he came to visit would slip down in the basement and grab a hand full of different bullets. Well he has bought his first house and is setting up his first reloading bench. Every time I go to see  him, I am going to grab a hand full of bullets. :-D  OOBuckshot

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2003, 06:11:06 AM »
SavageT, our gun club hosts a Youth day every year. There are several things for them to do as well as demos. We have BB guns for the little guys and gals,archery,ring toss,casting,22 rifles (9 RH and 1 LH), a hunter safety trail, and the older ones get to shoot a muzzle loader and shotgun at clay birds. There is a firearm safety class that is mandatory before shooting. They get a T shirt with the name of our gun club on it. All for $10. I usually setup and run the hunter safety trail and the DNR sends one or two Game Wardens to help on the trail since it's in the woods on a hill side. If you belong to a gun club I suggest getting a youth day started. We get grants from the NRA to help and get donations from local gun shops. We put out a little paper with all of the activities listed and put all of the contributors in the rear.  
As a side note, I started a long time goal of being a Hunter Safety instructor last week. I've wanted to give something back to a sport I love. :grin:
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