long range elk&moose cal.

[ap55]

I would like some ideas on good cal. for moose & elk, 300-400 yds.on elk. 7mm rem mag,300 win mag, 325wsm?? I would like a flat shooter if possable Some shots will be in long open,maybe across cyn. Thanks for your help with this

[corbanzo]

The 300 mags are some of the flatest shooters out there, like the 300 weatherby, the 300 remington ultramag.  I was looking up ballistics and the 300RUM with a 200 grain soft point has a drop of only 10 inches at 400 yards when sighted in at 200, now thats rediculous.  The .338's, like the .338-378 weatherby put out the same trajectory, but more punch.  I would personally prefer the .300's, cost, recoil, etc.  Plus they are plenty of power, even at 400 yards.

[Zachary]

The .338 Win. Mag. has a special niche as a long range Elk rifle.  If you really want a rifle specifically for elk and moose at the 300yd to 400yd range that you want, and IF you can accurate shoot a .338 at those ranges, then you have a great match.

Zachary

[Robert]

35 Whelen Improved did nicely at 240 yds this year on a very nice Bull.  338 is probably a little flatter shooting...but with a lot more recoil.

[Redhawk1]

I am working on an Elk hunt this year, I am going to be taking my 338 Win Mag with 185 gr. Barnes TSX bullets.  It was a toss up between my 300 Win Mag or the 338 Win Mag.  

[nasem]

Speaking of recoil..... if your willing to not care about recoil that much, ever tried a 210 grain Branes X 375 h&h.... shoots almost as flat as my 300 RUM using 200 grain nosler partitions

Zero the 210 gr 375 h&h @ 200 yards, and the darn thing only drops about 6.5 inches at 300 yards, and only about 19-ish at 400 (3150 fps / 4626 ft-lb of energy)

I have nothing bad to say about the 338... and it is the most acceptable north american cartridge... but I prefer the 375 simply because If I ever decided to take a trip to africa someday (in the long long long future) then the 375 is gonna be the one I take

Now if you hate recoil, I suggest you trying the 7mm remington ultra magnum, the recoil shouldn't be that bad, and its a flat shooting son of a b

If that bothers you, stick with 7mm mag..... pretty standard for long range shots....To be honest dude, I always use my 30-06 for 300 yard shoots, pretty nice 3-5" groups (depends on my day and how tired I am) and even some days, I can even drop that down to almost 2.5" 3-shot groups (but those days are not that common  :grin: )

[Zachary]

Now if you hate recoil, I suggest you trying the 7mm remington ultra magnum, the recoil shouldn't be that bad

Are you kidding me?

I own a 7mm ULTRA mag and it has to have the sharpest, most fierce recoil that I have ever experienced.  I kinda coined the term 7mm COBRA because it strikes back super fast and hard like a cobra. :eek:

My 7 Ultra (Cobra) actually shoots sub moa groups at 100 yards with factory 140 Nosler Partitions (although I think that Remington no longer makes this ammo anymore).  But stil, it sure does STING like a cobra!

Zachary

[kudzu]

Have the 7mm rum and 300 rum. Will be going on first elk hunt this year. I choose the 300rum to tag along.

[Daveinthebush]

As soon as you put moose into the equation I think you have to move up the totem a bit.  I'd toss in the .338, .338RUM, .340 Weatherby and .375 H&H.  When you start talking about a 1,200 pound animal at 400 yards in what might not be perfect conditions you need to think heavy.

[NONYA]

I have done what you want to do on more than one elk with my 7mm rem mag,160 gr bulllet,I would never consider going any larger,a 300 is a great round but it kicks like a mule

[Coyote Hunter]

I can’t speak for moose as I’ve never hunted them,  But if I do I will likely use the hunt as an excuse to get a .338 or .375.

Elk is a different story.  A 7mm Mag with a 160g bullet was my primary elk rifle for over 20 years.  Longest shot was 350 yards on a 6x5.  The bullet exited and the bull dropped.  As of Christmas 2004 I have a .300 Win Mag and am shooting 180g bullets, but will continue to us both rifles for elk.

[nasem]

Zachary

Sorry, I didn’t mean to make it look like the 7 mm RUM is not a hard kicker, The 7 mm RUM that I usually shoot with is really a woodchuck gun (I know… over kill….. its my friend’s dad’s rifle)  That thing alone weighs over 8 lbs, add another 1.5 lbs of 6X24X50 scope and that’s almost 10 lbs rifle, so the recoil on THAT 7 mm RUM is not that harsh.  That’s the only 7 mm RUM I have ever shot, so I don’t know how the recoil handles on a 7.5 or 8 lbs rifle, I can imagine it be a little sharper

[beemanbeme]

Why not give yourself a real treat:  8mm Remington Magnum
 

[jro45]

With my 338 RUM I can push a 180 gr bullet to 3520 fps. I think it would be an excellent Elk rifle for long range shots.

[Thebear_78]

I also have a 338 RUM for my long range hunting for moose/black bear.  225gr accubond at 3140fps is very flat shooting with plenty of punch out to 400 yards.