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« on: January 07, 2006, 11:17:37 AM »
Remington Model 700 SPS DM - .300Win Mag. 546.99
Remington Model 710 Bolt Action Rifle w/ Scope - .300 Win. Mag.429.99
Savage 111FCXP3 Bolt Action Rifle with Scope .300 Win Mag 458.99

Normaly I collect military rifles and auto loaders....but im getting tired of the local rangers always giving my hunters  the 60 min look over every time I run  into them. Im to inheriet some really top notch  fine rifles from
my Grandad when he passes on(a day I hope never comes as he is with out a doubt my closest friend and relative) so in the mean time im looking for  a budget large game rifle also for long range target shooting . Any opinions on the above rifles or recomendations  would be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time. :D

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2006, 12:19:21 PM »
out of the three,i'd go with the savage.....I like the accu-trigger
Good shot placement + well constructed bullet = DEAD
 
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2006, 12:34:54 PM »
Thank you for reply MAtt but I believe this model does not have the accu trigger...however I might spend the extra money for it as I have read some very positive  things about that feature...this model comes with factory trigger  anywhere from 3.5-5 pnds.

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2006, 12:44:37 PM »
Personally I'd avoid the Rem 710 like the plague and put the Savage in nearly the same category even tho many seem to like both. Of those three I'd go with the SPS but why a magnum? What is your perceived need for such power and recoil?


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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2006, 12:52:54 PM »
I  similarly would avoid the 710.

I am not a fan of the accutrigger, or Savage quality (despite their good accuracy).

I guess out of your 3 choices, then that would leave the SPS as the default winner.

However, there are 3 rifles that I would strongly recommend over your 3 choices, and they are as follows, and in order of my recommendation:

Tikka T3
Weatherby Vanguard
CZ 550 American

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2006, 01:07:30 PM »
I was originally in the market for  a accurate affordable .308 but have have shot many 300 mag and 7mm mags in the past  , recoil isnt much of a issue for me  as I am a bigger fella  my shoulders take a beating that turn most to jelly after awhile. I almost started off looking for a .338 but really didnt feel it was that I needed it. I eventually would like to own and shoot  a M-24.Im starting to think im goona have to spend a bit more thatn i wanted originally to get something that I will ber happy with.

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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2006, 01:16:03 PM »
The .300 Win. Mag. is a very popular round for benchrest competitions, especially long range.  As such, if you can handle the recoil, then you should have an inherently accurate cartridge - as long as you do your part.

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2006, 02:00:13 PM »
Savage....................in 270WSM!

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2006, 02:39:06 PM »
I agree with Zachary,the weatherby vanguard is a much better rifle,as are the howa's,but those weren't choices   :-D

I would (and did) buy a Tikka.....I just figgured if i kept putting this into EVERY rifle recommendation post,somebody everybody would get sick of seein' my posts :grin:

But the Tikka has a perfect trigger that is adjustable from 2-4 lbs,a silky smooth bolt and a floated barrel...it also will put 3 bullets inside a half an inch at 100 yards...and is GARUANTEED to put them inside an inch AND comes with an integrated scope rail and rings so that will save ya some $$ :D
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2006, 09:27:57 AM »
No offense to anyone that may own one, but I strongly suggest that you STAY AWAY from the Remington 710s!!!!!!!!!!

I know that you can do MUCH BETTER at nearly the same price!

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2006, 11:01:08 AM »
I personally believe the 710's are over priced. If they where around $200 even..then maybe. But in their defense are very rugged. I believe I would just as soon as buy a Mossberg 100ATR instead of a 710.
My vote, the Howa/Weatherby Vanguard or the Remington. The Vanguard is a great value for the money, and is a joy to shoot. I say go check one out before you make up your mind.
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2006, 11:08:06 AM »
I'd take the SPS DM. I know it the best choise. :D

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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2006, 12:11:04 PM »
Rem 710 = Savage.  Same market. If you are desperate to buy a rifle, get whichever one feels right to you.  No matter which one you buy, you're getting a cheap, junky rifle.  All this BS about "out of the box" accuracy aside.  The ones hollering that don't know what an accurate rifle is.   :grin:

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2006, 04:01:39 PM »
I have a hard time swallowing the "710=savage" statement.

The 710 feels very cheap to me. Action, trigger, especially the safety... Whereas even the "entry level" stevens everything feels solid, stock not withstanding. However I've also heard that the stocks from the savage 110 will fit the stevens 200. I suppose you might find a take off fairly cheap from a gunsmith or custom rifle/stock builder.

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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2006, 06:30:14 PM »
the savage is a great gun for the price and the accutrigger is one nice triggwer system and well worth the money spent. i would day this also. if there is any kind of problem i know for a fact that savage is on top of it the moment you get hold of them. i bought a 111 a while back and it was used. i had soem problems because someone hadn't taken much care of it and they warrantied it no questions asked and i told hem i was the 2nd owner
their product is great and it is too the point and the 111is a great gun and you will not have much of a problem with it because it will boresighted so you should be on paper the first shot
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2006, 03:47:09 PM »
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However, there are 3 rifles that I would strongly recommend over your 3 choices, and they are as follows, and in order of my recommendation:

Tikka T3
Weatherby Vanguard
CZ 550 American


I am with Zachery on this one. :lol:
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2006, 04:24:08 PM »
sorry dude, Those remington 710 are just wrong looking (maybe they shoot good, but I like my rifles to look like rifles not gray plastic + barrel)  Sorry Don't mean to insult anyone

2nd, for your purpose of using this rifle, the 300 win mag is a nice rifle / round, but if your going to plink just get a 30-06 or 308 (and those will pretty much handle most large games if you ever took it hunting)

Rifle wise, go into www.walmart.com and check out thier rifles, they usually have the cheapest prices (if not, they DO match prices of others)

recommendations wise, I don't like to pay alot for rifles and I do like synthetic stock.  Umm in the walmart website, they sell mosberg rifles (I think they are called Mosberg ATR) in caliber 30-06 or .270, for only $244, and you can ask ALOT of people here how well those mosberg ATRs shoot, I got one for my father this past x-max, I get anywhere from 0.5" to 1" groups @ 100 yards.  If you don't like this rifle, still, check out walmart's prices on the 300 win magnum, you'll like thier prices

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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2006, 05:10:23 PM »
WAL MART IS THE EVIL EMPIRE! :evil:
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2006, 07:14:01 PM »
I wouldn’t even consider the Rem 710.  It is designed to be inexpensive to manufacture and one way they did this was to press-fit the barrel into the receiver rather than use screw threads.  That means you can’t rebarrel, at least not easily.  IMHO you would be better off buying a used rifle.

Don’t know where you got your prices, but they all look pretty high to me.  At Christmas time I saw the Rem 710s for $199 and the Savages for $299 without the scope.  And, if I recall correctly, Gander Mountain had the Savage Classic series available for $450 or there abouts.  They look great and are a nice step up from the synthetic stocked Savage rifles.

Savage rifles have a well-deserved reputation for being excellent shooters, but I really don’t care for their synthetic stock.  

For the money you are willing to spend you might do better checking out the big box sporting goods stores even if it means a drive.  Gander Mountain, Sportsman’s Warehouse, etc.  You might also do very well buying a used rifle.  I just got done posting in another thread that half my firearms are used and there is not a lemon in the bunch.  But they saved me a bunch of cash.

If it was me I would check out Rugers, too.  They are my favorite and can be had new for $450 or less.  And they come with rings so they save you a bit there.
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2006, 07:32:37 PM »
Quote from: Coyote Hunter
I wouldn’t even consider the Rem 710.  It is designed to be inexpensive to manufacture and one way they did this was to press-fit the barrel into the receiver rather than use screw threads.  That means you can’t rebarrel, at least not easily.  IMHO you would be better off buying a used rifle.
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 Yeap. I never heard of anyone trying to rebarrel a 710 :)  :-D  :)