Author Topic: T3 , 270WSM (Read 1190 times)

Buckfever · « **on:** January 02, 2006, 12:50:08 PM »

I need a long range mule deer rig. Wait I want a long range mule deer rig. I don't have a .270 so I thought getting a 270WSM would be the thing to do. Can I get any comments by folks who have a .270 WSM as to how they shoot and such. Also what ammunition they shoot for mule and whitetail deer. If I am going the wrong direction here let me know. I have 3 Tikka's and they are all tack drivers so I am sold on the brand.

Thanks Buckfever

kudzu · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2006, 01:54:56 PM »

Have a 270wsm in a ruger. Very accurate ( hole for hole for hole) using the fed 140 gr accu bond. This is the first time I have used the accu bond bullet. Seems to be a little hard for southern whitetails. Would probally be my choice for big muleys. Sighted in 1 inch high at 100, I am only about 1/2" low at 300. Did not get to shoot at 200 yrd target , but this range had a 200 yrd bell about 4''x6'' I had to ring a couple of times. I will try the 130 gr BT for southern whitetails. Overall very pleased with 270wsm. IMO would be a very good choice for "long range muleys". Good luck and happy huntin, DM

poncaguy · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2006, 02:26:51 PM »

Best long range deer round there is IMHO.

kenscot · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2006, 02:58:06 PM »

I just got browning abolt in 270 wsm I treally like the way it shoots working on a load with 130 gr barnes tsx bullets and h4831 that is showing real potential

Zachary · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2006, 02:28:30 AM »

The .270 Weatherby Mag is well known as a long range deer rifle. The .270WSM's velocities come pretty darn close to the Weatherby Mag, so there is no reason to doubt the .270WSM's long range capabilities. The added benefit of the .270WSM over its Weatherby counterpart is that the WSM approaches Weatherby velocity while having less powder than the Weatherby - thus having less recoil and, in turn, thus enabling you to shoot more accrately.

As everyone on this board probably already knows, I absolutely love my Tiikkas. However, there is one thing that you may want to consider. Apparently, Tikkas, at least in the WSM cartridges, deliver lower velocity that other gun manufacturers.

There was an article once specifically on the .270WSM in both a Tikka and a Savage. With the same loads, the Tikka rifle produced velocities about 200 fps LESS than the Savage. That's a noticeable difference. You might as well shoot a .270 Winchester and get the same velocity without the recoil.
Additionally, other board members have chrony'd their Tikkas in, I think, .300WSM, and have similarly found the velocities to be noticeably lower than they should be.

There is no doubt that Tikkas are accurate. However, if the Tikkas WSM rifles are much slower because of their long throat, then, accuracy or not, to me it doesn't make sense to get a Tikka in any WSM cartridge.

Zachary

Grubbs · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2006, 05:38:10 AM »

What is the advantage of the 270 WSM over the 7mag? I consider the 7mag to be the perfect mulie round.

kudzu · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2006, 09:47:28 AM »

Advantages, HUMM, faster,flatter, more energy comes to mind.

Don't worry Grubbs, I ain't tring to cook your grits. However, if you compare these to rounds on the federal ammo ballistic page, using the same bullet,(140gr. Nos. accu-bond) the 270wsm has the slight edge. Probally not enough to trade guns over, but if you didn't have either and was going to buy one, it's certainlly worth taking a look at.

Grubbs · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2006, 11:34:43 AM »

No offense taken. Doesn't seem to be any practical advantage then. My Tikka 7mag shoots Hornady Light mag 139 interlokt sst's @ 3262fps (chrono).

poncaguy · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2006, 01:41:24 PM »

Recoil is less and the 270 WSM seems more accurate, at least in comparing my Ruger 77 7mm Rem Mag (which I traded off) to my Winnchester Super Shadow 270 WSM.............

kudzu · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2006, 03:27:21 PM »

grubbs, fed shows the MV of the 270wsm at 3200 for 140 accubond and 3300 for the 130 BT.

Buckfever · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2006, 03:59:47 PM »

Zachary This concerns me to say the least. If you were to get something other than a Tikka what would it be? Anyone else have another brand with a 24" barrel they like? Thanks Bob

bladerunner · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2006, 04:13:39 PM »

maybe a sako?

kudzu · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2006, 04:13:55 PM »

My bets on Ruger for Lawdog

Zachary · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2006, 02:48:19 AM »

Quote from: Buckfever

Zachary This concerns me to say the least. If you were to get something other than a Tikka what would it be? Anyone else have another brand with a 24" barrel they like? Thanks Bob

Buckfever,

Other than a Tikka, I would look into the Weatherby Vanguard, and even CZ. If you are willing to spend the extra money, you can get the Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA, which guarantees 3 shot groups under 1" and comes with a real synthetic stock - not the junky plastic stock.

I am not sure if Sakos also have the long throats like the Tikkas.

I love my Tikkas, but I personally would never buy one in a WSM cartridge because of the loss in velocity. (And everyone here KNOWS that I LOVE Tikkas).

Zachary

Grubbs · « **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2006, 06:02:04 AM »

dancoman....so my Tikka 7mag shoots a .284 Hornady bullet almost just as fast as the advertised 140 gr accubond (federal). That's my point. It offers no practical advantage at all.

Buckfever · « **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2006, 11:57:02 AM »

Zachary, and all others, based upon the other rifles I have, 30-06 an others I wonder if a 25-06 might not fit the bill for my Mule Deer long range firearm (300-400yds)? If so does the T3 Tikka have the same loss of velocity as the WSM? In my other Tikkas it doesn't matter because they are woods guns. Thoughts?

RemingtonMagnum · « **Reply #16 on:** January 04, 2006, 12:12:55 PM »

A Remington 700 in 30-06 will fit just about any situation!

Don Jackson Remington Magnum

kudzu · « **Reply #17 on:** January 04, 2006, 01:14:40 PM »

grubbs, you right. thats why I said that the differance ain't worth a trade, but might be worth a look if buying new. I love this stuff. DM

bladerunner · « **Reply #18 on:** January 04, 2006, 02:37:18 PM »

I know Zachary has a 25-06 and loves it,I also have a 25-06 and love it (mine shoots 3 shots into a half inch or less @100 yds.)

400 yards on a mulie should be a slam dunk with proper bullet placement and a good bullet

there are ALOT of good calibers for this 25-06,270,308,30-06 and 280 come to mind

Zachary · « **Reply #19 on:** January 04, 2006, 03:41:55 PM »

Quote from: Buckfever

Zachary, and all others, based upon the other rifles I have, 30-06 an others I wonder if a 25-06 might not fit the bill for my Mule Deer long range firearm (300-400yds)? If so does the T3 Tikka have the same loss of velocity as the WSM? In my other Tikkas it doesn't matter because they are woods guns. Thoughts?

Buckfever,

I believe that the significant loss in velocity in Tikkas is only limited to the WSMs only, not standard cartridges, and not regular magnums (ie 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, etc.).

A .25-06 would certainly work as a long range whitetail and mule deer cartridge, although I would have a personal preference for the Tikka in a .270 for the mulies.

Zachary

32 Point Buck · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2006, 10:17:04 AM »

Quote from: Zachary

Quote from: Buckfever
Zachary, and all others, based upon the other rifles I have, 30-06 an others I wonder if a 25-06 might not fit the bill for my Mule Deer long range firearm (300-400yds)? If so does the T3 Tikka have the same loss of velocity as the WSM? In my other Tikkas it doesn't matter because they are woods guns. Thoughts?

Buckfever,

I believe that the significant loss in velocity in Tikkas is only limited to the WSMs only, not standard cartridges, and not regular magnums (ie 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, etc.).

A .25-06 would certainly work as a long range whitetail and mule deer cartridge, although I would have a personal preference for the Tikka in a .270 for the mulies.

Zachary

Not sure but are you refering to the T3 series only being available in the long action producing the results of velocity loss? I am looking at the T3 series in 7mm-08. I was wondering about the disadvantages of shooting a short action bullet in a long action rifle. How do they compensate for this?

bladerunner · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2006, 11:33:10 AM »

32 point buck,WELCOME to GBO

the 7MM-08 will be fine,they use long actions,but compensate by putting the bolt stop in a different place...........I think you will be most pleased with a Tikka

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