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Offline bladerunner

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« on: December 19, 2005, 06:04:15 PM »
how can you keep a barrel clean and well maintained and still keep the bore "dirty" enough so that you can still hit something on the first shot?

I can't fire a fouling shot before every hunt and I don't like having a dirty barrel all week long......any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2005, 02:53:02 AM »
bladerunner - My range time is limited so it may be a couple of weeks between the final sighting in at the range and my hunting trip and I've never had a problem. Your bore won't corrode or be damaged by not cleaning it for a while. Today's modern powders and primers burn cleaner and leave less fouling in the barrel. Clean it up after your hunt and you'll be fine! CEJ...
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2005, 03:18:03 AM »
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how can you keep a barrel clean and well maintained and still keep the bore "dirty" enough so that you can still hit something on the first shot?

I can't fire a fouling shot before every hunt and I don't like having a dirty barrel all week long......any suggestions?


If I am going to be hunting, I go to the range and make sure my rifle is still zeroed. I don't clean the barrel, I just go out hunting with the fouled barrel. But I don't do that with my muzzleloader. My muzzleloader is sighted in with a cleaned and lubed barrel, just as it is when I go hunting.  :D
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2005, 04:01:55 AM »
Same as Redhawk here, but if my rifle gets rained on during the season I go ahead and clean it. On some guns clean vs dirty makes little or no difference.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2005, 04:44:44 AM »
Before going on a hunting trip I foul my barrel be it a week or 3 weeks ahead of time. Then I'll be shooting at game and when I get home again I clean and take all the copper out the barrel and put it back in the safe. :D
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2005, 05:25:22 AM »
Get over your hangup about a dirty barrel all week. Geez you're not using black powder or corrosive primers are you? I never clean my barrel from the time I fire that last shot checking zerio until season ends and our season here in Bama is 2-1/2 months long.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2005, 06:03:56 PM »
You can run a damp patch with brake cleaner on it through an oily barrel and follow up with a couple of dry patches. It is mostly the oil in the barrel that makes the first shot print out of the group.  :D
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2005, 03:19:18 AM »
I got a close buddy who bought a 788 (.243), for 75 bucks new, on a going out of business sale. Once sighted in, it has only shot at deer...
He and I... I'd say at least 30 deer. Very accurate, with any load.
Other than wiping down, it has never been cleaned. When I ask why, the reply is "the box says clean bore ammunition, I love the way it shoots, and I don't want to change anything"! I wouldn't do this. I'm a cleaning nazi. I guess to each his own!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2005, 01:26:08 PM »
Quote from: Redhawk1
Quote from: bladerunner
how can you keep a barrel clean and well maintained and still keep the bore "dirty" enough so that you can still hit something on the first shot?

I can't fire a fouling shot before every hunt and I don't like having a dirty barrel all week long......any suggestions?


If I am going to be hunting, I go to the range and make sure my rifle is still zeroed. I don't clean the barrel, I just go out hunting with the fouled barrel. But I don't do that with my muzzleloader. My muzzleloader is sighted in with a cleaned and lubed barrel, just as it is when I go hunting.  :D


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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2006, 05:09:23 AM »
I would think that a cold bore shot is more important then a fowling shot.  Either way you should go to the range and get to know your rifle and where it hits for a cold bore shot and a clean bore first shot.  Your rifle will normally shoot the same every time once sighted in.  At least that is the way snipers do it.  Or so I've been told.  Good luck.     :wink:
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2006, 05:21:54 AM »
I guess i`m from the old school. I shoot-um i clean-um. Never gave any thought to needing a slightly dirty bore to shoot straight.  Never had any problems so something must be working and i`m talking a lot of years.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2006, 09:50:10 AM »
There are 4 ways to go about this, maybe more.  1) If the difference between the clean barrel shot and the second shot isn't that much, forget about it and zero in using the fouled barrel point of impact. 2) If the difference is considerable, compromise by zeroing midway between the two points of impact.  3) Foul the barrel before you hunt and don't clean it until you are through hunting.  4) Sight in using the clean barrel point of impact. To do this, you have to clean the barrel and let it cool each time you shoot when you are sighting in.
I now use the third option. I live near the ocean and generally hunt inland at elevations over 5.000 feet. I sight in at home with a fouled barrel. I clean the barrel after I finish sighting in. The air is thinner and warmer where I hunt and that changes point of impact. So, I shoot a few times when I get to the hunt area to adjust the point of impact and I leave the barrel fouled. The first shot is the one that counts.
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