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Offline longwinters

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Need a rifle for a lefty
« on: November 26, 2005, 11:32:06 AM »
I have a new son-in-law that wants to start hunting.  He is right handed but left eye dominant.  He cannot close just one eye so he will have to go lefty.

What make and model rifle would you suggest in maybe a 7m-08 or similar.  I will reload for him, and probably pay for most if not all of the rifle since he and my daughter are still in college and lack funds for toys.

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2005, 11:55:00 AM »
Longwinters,

I’m a hopeless lefty, been that way all my life. Left-handed people are not handicapped. We live in a right-handed world. We learn to use right-handed tools with our left-hands, a gun is no different. Pick out any bolt action of your choice but make sure it doesn’t have a fancy right-handed check piece on it. Learn to keep your thumb out of the way when you pull the bolt open and you’ll (or your friend) be find. I can actually come back on target for a second shot with a right-handed rife faster than a lot of right-handed people. It’s really no big deal.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2005, 12:21:56 PM »
Quote from: longwinters
I have a new son-in-law that wants to start hunting.  He is right handed but left eye dominant.  He cannot close just one eye so he will have to go lefty.

What make and model rifle would you suggest in maybe a 7m-08 or similar.  I will reload for him, and probably pay for most if not all of the rifle since he and my daughter are still in college and lack funds for toys.

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My son is left handed due to an accident when he was 7.  A neighbor’s 12 son threw a field tipped arrow at him just to scare him.  Well it scared him after hitting him and putting out his right eye.  My Granddaughter also shoots left handed due to being left eye dominate.  Savage has the best selection of rifles for left handed shooters going today.  Browse through their centerfire rifle section and see what strikes your/his fancy.  Lawdog
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2005, 12:46:49 PM »
Let me expand on how a lefty is not handicapped with a right-handed bolt action rifle.

If you're a right-handed person mount the rifle on your left shoulder. The bolt handle is right there in your face. A lefty pulls the trigger and the gun goes off. The next thing he does is bring his right hand back and grabs the bolt handle. After all he’s in the recoil mode and his right hand isn’t doing anything anyway. He jacks the spent case out then shoves the new round in keeping his right hand moving forward and grab the forestock again. The only real problem he has is keeping his left thumb out of the way of the bolt. Most lefties only have to drag the bolt across their thumb once or twice to remember to lift it out of the way. Pulling your thumb out of the way becomes second nature.

There’s the old school of thought that lefties have to reach over the top of the rifle and pull the bolt handle with their left hand…. To hell with that! That rule was made up by a right-handed person that didn’t have a clue of what left-handed people need to do.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2005, 01:36:27 PM »
Well I am lefty and years ago I learned to shoot as Mick describes, today I chose not to. There are many choices for lefties to day unless  someone feels the need to shoot some obscure caliber like 218 bee and the like. There are lefty offerings from Browning, remington, savage, tikka, ruger, winchester and sako. Savage is proabably the most economical but of late I really have liked my brownings especially my micro hunter in
7mm-08 a joy to carry, quick pointing and very accurate.

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2005, 01:50:12 PM »
I'm with kenscot.  I'm a lefty and there are left handed guns out there, no need to make do with a righty.  Besides, lefties need to keep buying these guns so the gun manufacturers keep making more of them!!
 
I've got a Savage 11FL 7-08 that shoots real well.
 
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2005, 04:09:58 PM »
Been a lefty all my life.  It's one thing to accept what's offered in a circular saw, belt sander, or 100s of other tools.  There are no other choices.  But if I'm dropping $500 or more on a rifle, I want the bolt on the left side where it belongs!  According to their website, Weatherby stopped offering lefty rifles because of poor sales.  If you want gunmakers to offer guns for us, you have to buy 'em.

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2005, 04:47:08 PM »
I bent the bolt handle on my Arisaka UP to allow the use of my left hand. If a southpaw uses his right hand to work the bolt, the barrel sags and when you look through the sights again, you have to reacquire the target. Usin' a left handed bolt you can keep the gun mounted on your shoulder and get of an aimed second shot faster. Right handed rifles are nice on the bench, though easy to load.  :-D
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2005, 05:44:09 PM »
My lefty brothers,,,, I feel your pain. But I have moved on and gave up. Please continue the struggle.
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2005, 07:26:04 AM »
Lever rifles are pretty good for us south pawed ones. I have used a 99 Savage .308 and a 444 Marlin but have yet to go for a left handed bolt. Falling blocks like my 257 roberts Greener Martini action cadet rifle are also good for lefties. The Remington slides are also handy in that regard. Good luck. Regards

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2005, 06:24:20 PM »
Right handed guns are designed to vent out to the right in times of catastrophic case failure.  That fills a left hander's face full of all sorts of things they don't want in their face, which is why I try to convince folks to get the rifles that are built to be safe for them.

My dad, father in law, wife, sister, and daughter all shoot left handed.  Left handed rifles abound these days.  My sister uses a lefty Remington 700 in 7mm magnum.  My wife had a nice Savage left handed rifle in 7mm-08 for a while.  She's decided to take her chances with lever actions, since she likes them better, even though she's seen a rifle blow out the right side before (Remington semi-auto shooting faulty PMC 22 LR ammo).  Luckily, I was shooting it, so no harm was done (I'm a righty).  My dad is hunting in a firearm restriction unit these days, no rifles allowed, so he's using a left-handed Remington 870 shotgun.  He grew up using lever actions, though, back in the dark ages before factories made left handed actions.  My daughter is using break-action single shots for now.  I don't know what the in-law shoots.

Bottom line, since he's just getting started, I'd say get a Savage for him.  Lots of choices, decent rifle, good accuracy, and good price.  The money saved on the choice of rifle should fund a pretty nice scope.  

You might also check the local gun shops for used rifles.  It seems like left handed Remington 700s are always in the used racks, probably because Remington has been making lots of lefty rifles for a long time.  My local shop always has one or two on the shelves.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2005, 04:56:10 AM »
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Longwinters,

I’m a hopeless lefty, been that way all my life. Left-handed people are not handicapped. We live in a right-handed world. We learn to use right-handed tools with our left-hands, a gun is no different. Pick out any bolt action of your choice but make sure it doesn’t have a fancy right-handed check piece on it. Learn to keep your thumb out of the way when you pull the bolt open and you’ll (or your friend) be find. I can actually come back on target for a second shot with a right-handed rife faster than a lot of right-handed people. It’s really no big deal.
 :grin:


I just tried that with some of my right handed father's rifles, and wow. I don't lose any time over my left handed bolt action! I always tried the throw-with-left-hand method, and I couldn't do it with low mounted scopes. I may have hope after all since I can get nice used right handed rifles (I hate savages, sorry fellas) for cheap!

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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2005, 01:37:05 AM »
But I am right handed, I only shoot lefty because I am left eyed dominent.
My left hand is actually quite clumsy.     After 40 years of right hand bolts, they seem fine.

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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2005, 05:57:42 AM »
My wife is left eye dominant but naturally right handed. She is much more comfortable shooting as a left hander and shoots very well that way. For the reasons already stated, a left handed rifle works better rather than trying to struggle with a right handed rifle. Buy a Savage - they have a wide assortment of lefty rifles and are accurate. The 7-08 is a good choice. Of course a left handed person can learn to shoot a bolt gun made for right handers. The military trained thousands of lefties to shoot the 1903 Springfield. But that isn't the best solution when lefty rifles are so readily available.

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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2005, 07:46:08 AM »
Back to the original question, how about a lever, pump or single shot?

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2005, 09:42:30 AM »
Is it against the rules to advise him to not look at a bolt?  To question his parameters?   I have the same "condition" of right handed/left-eyed and there is not a perfect solution in a bolt.


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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2005, 10:23:42 AM »
Actually I would not be opposed to lever, pump or single shot.  Have used all 3 myself without any problems.  But with the levers and pumps the brass would still be ejected infront of his face using a right handed gun. . . unless there are left handed models available in these venues.  

I asked about bolt action because I think that is what he would prefer.  Guess I could ask him, but then there would be no surprise :eek: .  

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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2005, 12:28:22 PM »
Hey guys,

I never intended this post to get unfriendly.  We all have opinions and most people on Graybeard offer other alternatives that they think the initial poster may not have thought of.  As long as "bunny trails" don't hijack the originial question of the post I don't have a problem with it.  For whatever it may be worth . . . probably not much :roll:

I appreciate everyones thoughts and suggestions.  A left handed bolt is going to be my druthers as I can see that there are quite a few options available for my choosing.  

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Re: It's not against the rules to question your "intell
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2005, 12:37:10 PM »
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There are no lever action rifles that are made for left-handed shooters.
 
There are no pump rifles made for left-handed shooters.
 
There are no autoloading rifles made for left handed shooters.
 

 
I'm a natural lefty and hunted for many years with a Remington 760 pump with a left handed safety installed, never noticed the brass flying by.  Remington even made lefty stocks at one time, for their 740 and 760 rifles.
That being said, I only own left handed bolt rifles today.   The pumps and levers will work, fine IF YOU WANT ONE.   If not there are more lefty bolt guns available today, in more calibers, than there were 30 yrs ago.
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2005, 01:23:38 AM »
JSG, you win.  

I guess forty-two years of hunting in TX being right handed and left eyed and killing deer and hogs with right bolts, left bolts, pumps, and single shots does not give me a say in this thread.

Good day,

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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2005, 03:09:36 AM »
As an "old" lefty, i`ve never had a problem shooting a right handed  rifle.  Started out with one and still have them in my arsenal.  If you can make the first shot count.........the left/right issue is moot.
  Course now i carry a Savage 99 in .300 so the original question is really
   moot, for me anyway.

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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2005, 03:46:46 AM »
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Hey guys,

I never intended this post to get unfriendly.  We all have opinions and most people on Graybeard offer other alternatives that they think the initial poster may not have thought of.  As long as "bunny trails" don't hijack the originial question of the post I don't have a problem with it.  For whatever it may be worth . . . probably not much :roll:

I appreciate everyones thoughts and suggestions.  A left handed bolt is going to be my druthers as I can see that there are quite a few options available for my choosing.  

Long


I just thought this may have been missed by some guys :(

Im a lefty, I selfishly urge you to urge him to buy a left handed bolt.  We need as much demand for these as we can.  Even savage, the most lefty friendly company, has told an aftermarket stock maker that the demand is not too great for LH actions.  The stock maker was asking them to make more LH actions and that was their response.   Third party story however, I was calling about an aftermarket stock and they make LH options.

I have used a marlin lever gun for years, loading and unloading was more natural for me and the brass ejection is not an issue, moot or ignorance, take your pick - its free.

I currently own a RH bolt gun also that I only use on the bench ( :shock:  do as I say, not as I do  :grin: ) and also, loading and removing brass for reloading is easier than my LH bolt.  I only hunt with a LH bolt however.

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2005, 02:24:13 PM »
Just some guy
                    all we southpaws have to do is show the right handers how much better it would be if they used left hand bolts then we would have a big selection of guns

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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2005, 05:20:08 PM »
Quote from: Just Some Guy
Quote from: wild willy
Just some guy
                    all we southpaws have to do is show the right handers how much better it would be if they used left hand bolts then we would have a big selection of guns
It's bad enough that we lefties get such a pitiful selection of calibers as is, but if we left it up to the silly S.O.B.s who've chosen to post their stupid ideas in this thread, we'd never see another left-handed rifle.

 
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Sorry but it's time someone told you to mind your manners.  On this forum we don't tolerate personal attacks.
You don't have to agree with others, but they have a right to their opinion just as you do.  
You can just agree to disagree if you wish.
No need for name calling, and just because you don't agree it's not a "stupid idea".
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2005, 09:20:33 AM »
mabe you should read my post again mabe you would get this time I'am left handed and only use left handed bolts

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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2005, 12:47:31 PM »
i am also right handed left eyed dominant. i have learned to shoot right handed rifles only because out here in the sticks if you wanted a lefty you had to order it and it was usually accompanied by a big price. but the next lefty model i see i am gonna buy it just cause. bolt guns really do not bother me but after reading one of the posts about venting even though this has not happen to me. i would just be better off in getttin the right gun for me. what really irks me is the smaller semi autos but thats a nother thread. back on subject i was reading on the net that alot of police snipers that are right handed are going to lefty guns for better follow up shots or multiple shots with out losing sight of there target.

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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2005, 12:36:46 PM »
As others have posted, I too am right-handed left-eye dominant, BUT, here is the kicker: I shoot left-handed naturally.  Rightie is a bit awkward.  I can shoot right-handed, as I am sure many of the righties CAN shoot leftie, but it is a slow and deliberate process.  I learned to shoot on right-handed rifles, and shoot with either bolt configuration.  My advice when buying a left-handed rifle is too really do your homework and purchase a "keeper."  Lefties are hard to come by sometimes and, I expect, harder to trade around with.  Determine the use for the rifle in question, figuring how much recoil you want to endure, how far you'd like to shoot, and whether you want to reload, among other requirements.  Then buy yourself something you'll want keep.

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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2005, 04:01:01 PM »
Longwinters,with your avatar,I can scarcely believe you're asking this question....SAKO or TIKKA,of course   :-D
seriously though,before I bought my tikka,I was considering a savage and savage offers ALOT of left handed rifles.....If we enjoy shooting our right handed rifles instead of lefties,then lefties would prolly prefer left handed rifles :D
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