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Offline hillbill

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« on: November 21, 2005, 03:36:50 PM »
anybody took a model seven rem and made a custom rifle out of it? ive got a seven in 243 thats a semi erratic shooter that would look good in .260 rem with a semi bull brl and mannlicher stock.

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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2005, 03:38:57 AM »
Greybeard may have to verify this but the XP 100 action (new model) is the same as the model 7 action they also made a magazine R model in the XP-100.  I build a light walk around 22-250AI on the XP action used a rem model 7 ti stock had to open up the barrel channel alittle for the 24" barrel.  Depending on what stock you have may want to change that out and that depends on what barrel lenght and contour you want.  McMillian can make about any style stock you want and just inlet it for a model 7 action.  I'm not much on full stock just hard to get those small groups.  If you look at the new single shoot rifle from rem should be the same action as the model 7 also think it's just a take off of the XP 100 single shot pistol rem made.

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2005, 12:02:23 PM »
If you're talking about the XR-100, its built on the XP-100 pistol action.   The Model 7 .243 ought to be a straight out swap to a .260.  I had a 788 .243 rebarrelled to a .260 and that's the way it worked out.  Bullets of 140gr and higher have to be set a bit deeper (than I would like) because of magazine limits.  It certainly doesn't seem to inhibit its performance however.
Rem does have a model 7 that's coming out of the custom shop to the tune of @$1300.  Its offered in 7-08 and, I THINK, .260.  As soon as I can talk my son into dropping out of college and getting a job, I may get one.

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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2005, 01:07:00 PM »
when yours was rebarreled, how much was the cost and what were the results? good, i hope.

i am thinking of doing this also.

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2005, 02:17:09 PM »
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when yours was rebarreled, how much was the cost and what were the results? good, i hope.

i am thinking of doing this also.

-Matt
I don't know if your question was for me or not but will answer anyway.
If you look at a Hart,Shilen,Lilja,Kreiger,Broughton,Chanylyn barrels plus others they are pretty close in cost around $300 plus chambering.   Don't want to hang too heavy of a barrel off that action you can always sleeve the action.    You didn't mention what bullet you plan on shooting I kind of like to get my chamber troated for a certain type bullet help alittle.   The 6.5 caliber is getting better bullets.    Alot of the barrel makers offer chamber service and will do action work and as to what to expect group wise.  Guy walks into a BR gunsmith ask can you build me a rifle to shoot in the .0's gunsmith ask him can you shoot in the .0's.  Well good luck.

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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2005, 02:46:55 PM »
the question was for beemanbeme actually but i am glad for any info i can get.  

no i cant shoot in the .0's but i would like to be able to.  :grin:

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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2005, 01:58:00 AM »
Matt,  One of the problems you have with the model 7 is the action is shorter than the model 700 and 788 and OAL would be a concern going with the heavier bullets in 6.5 caliber.  Wyatt's sells an extended box magazine and that requires alittle milling to work.  When you start seating those heavier bullets deeper you take up case capacity which effects velocity etc kind of the reason for building a 260AI,6.5wsm or 6.5x55AI for like the 140/142gr SMK.
I don't own a 260 or 6.5x55 but looked at those cases I have afew custom rifles so like to match bullet to case capacity just because they sell 140 plus gr bullets in a 260 that they would be the best choice.  I had a 6.5x284 and 264 mag build for bullets less than 130gr I would look at the 260 cases etc.  The smallest groups I've gotten out of the 6.5x284 is in the .2's for 5 shoots still playing with the 264 mag.  If you pull up the results on LR matches you will see alot of Broughton barrels being used in 6.5/30cal he makes a real nice 5c barrel gets alittle better velocity with that barrel I've got one in 30cal.   Well Good luck.

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2005, 02:03:56 AM »
I would think long and hard before rechambering a model 7 to a 6.5. I am seeing more than a few in used gun racks for much cheaper than you will have in a rebarrel job. It was enough to make me lose interest in that round. I have a Seven in a 7/08 and no money could get that from me. I have one in .223 that is a three shot wonder as well. I would like to have an action to build a custom Seven in a 6mmBR with a slightly heavier contour 20" barrel.

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2005, 07:25:50 AM »
When my wife told me see was pregnant with my son I went out to Jumbo Sports and bought a Remington Youth Model Seven in .243. I tried to work up some loads for it and found that it would not group much better than 2 MOA. I put it into a Bell & Carlson Carbalite stock and it started shooting around 1.5 MOA.
One afternoon I was stting in Henry Ball's shop and we were discussing my son's "legacy deer rifle." He brought up the suggestion of rebarreling the little rifle with a premium barrel and doing a bedding job on it. Eventually we decided on a 20" McGowen Chrome Moly, Super Match Grade barrel. Henry chambered it in 6.5-.284 and bedded the barreled action into the Carbalite stock. During the bedding process he noted that the stock needed reenforcement in the forend area so he hogged out the barrel channel and glued an aluminum "stiff arm" rod in the forend to prevent flexing. After he finished the rifle I topped it off with a 2.5 X 8 Leupold Vari X III sitting in a set of engraved Millet rings on a Leupold scope base.
The end result is a short action rifle that is a joy to stalk with or to sit a tree stand. It offers performance that nips at the heels of a 6.5-06 or .270 in a light, short nifty package.
To show you how it performs, I was working up loads for the fine 129 grain Hornady 6.5 bullet this year. After froming my brass I loaded groups of rounds that increased H4831 in increments of 1/2 grain. I covered from 20% below max to max. When I went to the range none of the groups ended up being larger than 1" at 100 yards. In effect it shot everything I gave it equally well. A testament to a great cartridge and a master gunsmith's fine job.
I highly recommend the Model Seven as a custom platform. I am thinking about building myself one in .35-284 as a hog stalking gun.

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2005, 10:11:39 AM »
I had Stan Taylor here in WV put a Douglas barrel on the 788.  Sporter contour.  Once done, it has been a sub MOA since the get go pretty much regardless of the load.  I have bullets ranging from 120gr to 140gr but was so well pleased with the performance of the 140's, I never got past them. I ended up using 140gr Core Lokts and I've only shot a couple or three deer with it but it did  a number on them.  
I don't see how hanging a sporter contour barrel on a Model 7 would change anything.  With the length of the magazine on a Model 7, I would certainly consider the .260 before the Swede however.  
I'm not a "speed at any cost" type of hunter so I find the .260 a well balanced, effective cartridge.