Any problems with 1st generation G23?

[Wizzlepig]

I just purchased a first generation G23. It is in almost new condition and it came with two 13 round mags. I have heard of the problems with the N series .40 cal Glocks but I am wondering if anyone out there knows of any problems with the 1st generation .40 cals. I am also seeking recomendations for a good concealment holster for this model.
                                                                Thanks in advance.

[Savage]

Wiz,
Haven't owned any Glock 40s, so can't address any 1st gen problems. I have a "Hunter" pancake holster for the mdl 19 that works really well with any kind of cover garment. Nice forward cant that holds the pistol in tight to the body. Comfortable and conceals well.
Savage

[RKBAHolsters]

To start with that is a 2nd Gen Glock, there were no 1st gens as far as I remember....

For CCW, a Sidearmor or Comp-tac IWB would work great.


I don't think there are any problems specific to the older glocks.


Just shoot factory jacketed ammo and you'll be fine.

Steve

[lefthanded]

Forgive me for chiming in, but I disagree.
this is my first ever post to this board.  I am a Glock armorer (kept up my certification since 1992) and the head of an agency that issues Glock 23's, 22's and 18's (yes, G-18 select fire)
If I were purchasing that particular firearm I would  immediatly replace the extractor.  If that particular firearm is going to fail, it will be the extractor.  Get a new one and replace it, even if you think it has already been done.  The part is cheap and it is worth it.

[Savage]

lefthanded,
Are you referring to the Gen I Glocks in mdls 22/23? If so, what is the extractor angle difference between the early and later generations?
If the extractor angle is different the slide would have to be replaced along with the extractor, ie: the early mdl 21s.
Savage

[lefthanded]

It isn't the angle of the extractor and the way it sits in the slide, it is the way Glock cut the steel at the bottom edge of the extractor.  They cut the bottom of the extractor in such a way that left the edge prone to breaking.  The replacement extractor is beveled at an angle that leaves more steel at the tip.  
I have replaced a bunch of them.  My rule of thumb that if the pistol does not have the rail built into the frame, then replace the extractor.  THAT IS NOT WHAT GLOCK SAYS, but again, I have seen so many of the tips chip off that it is worth it to me.  
The pistol will not function correctly with a chipped extractor.  
We have 55 of them in the Office, and ALL of the BNL numbered 23's have had them replaced.  
If I were to acquire a Glock with a pre rail receiver, I would replace the extractor first thing...but again, that is me.....I have a box in my desk drawer at work with a lot of chipped extractors in it.

[Savage]

lefthanded,
Thanks for the clarification, interesting information!
Savage

[lefthanded]

Thank you  Savage,
As much as I like the Glock, nothing has disappointed me as much as the extractor issue.  I carry one every day, it hasn't dissuaded me from my appreciation of the Glock pistols, but after seeing so many fail it replacing them has become an automatic response for me.  
The only other failure we have had are the factory plastic spring guide rods.  3 of them have cracked at the base, which required replacement.  However, it appears that the fact they cracked did not take the weapon out of service.
As an agency we go thru about 20-30K rounds a year in various training and qualification exercises, some much more than others of course (SRT, etc) and the pistols take it well.

[Savage]

lefthanded,
The guide rod and frame failures are the most common I've seen. I own and carry several Glocks, including a mdl 21 duty gun. I have complete confidence in all my guns, Glocks included, but the Glocks are not my favorites. They work great as issue pistols, low initial cost, little maintaince, and lets not forget training issues. It's much easier to "dumb down the tool" than to train the masses.
Stay Safe,
Savage

[lefthanded]

Roger that Savage, you are right, Glocks are easy to train the masses on, in addition to being good fighting pistols.  
Be careful yourself...

[GSD17]

There is NO 1st Gen G23.

The only GLOCKs that were ever made in 1st gen were the : G17, G17L, G18 and VERY VERY VERY few G19s.

GLOCK was well into the 2nd gen when the G23 was introduced.

[jpshaw]

Ditto to GSD17.  Although there were some 1st Gen 19s they are very rare.