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Offline Born2shoot48

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« on: October 30, 2005, 08:25:49 AM »
I am ready to go bust some snowshoes.  A little snow this morning put me in the mood.  Anybody getting 'em yet?

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2005, 12:06:43 PM »
Born2shoot48,

You brought back some fond memories for me; I was stationed at Ft Wainwright after Viet Nam.  The mess hall food was not the best, so as the only Jew on post, and even though my family seldom followed the dietary laws of Judaism, I requested a permit for cooking in the barracks so I could have kosher food.  I was granted the permit, and my friends and I feasted on moose, caribou, grayling, salmon, and rabbit, not to mention fresh baked cookies.

We hunted rabbits with my K-22 masterpiece and a Ruger 22 pistol, along the Richardson and west gate towards North Pole.  We would go out on skis, and then walk in to the brush and kick-up a few, shoot them, skin them, and clean them.  Would take them back and wash them, then put them in a mesh laundry bag and hang them out the window, to freeze.

I had a small rotisserie oven and hot plate; we had broiled, baked, roasted, fried, sautéed, barbequed, and rabbit stew.  We also invented things like rabbit tacos, rabbit stroganoff, and fettuccine alfrado with rabbit.  One of the married guys in the platoon took all the shins and his wife made a comforter, hats and some mittens from them.

Anyway, hope you enjoy the rabbits as much as we did, and thanks for reviving a pleasant memory

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2005, 09:12:57 PM »
There is no greater thing on earth than hunting bunnies in Alaska.  Cold, crisp Alaskan morning with just a hint of sun.   I can't wait to go on my first trip.

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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2005, 10:14:57 PM »
out here in Bristol Bay we have little to no snow and I hoped I might find a white bunny trying to hide out.  But they are sparse out here even in good years.  I didn't get into the thick willows where I should - my boys pooped out.

On another note FE352v8 - I went to UAF in Fairbanks in the early 70's and rabbits were everywhere. We had a blast. But I got tired of rabbit.  Sounds like you and your friends were a lot better cooks.  I've heard of rabbit sausage too.

But how did you cure the hides?  My room mate and I planned to make some sleeping robes like we read the gold rush guys bought from the Natives.  We had hides curing all over the dorm room -over 40 I think. We tried a tanning recipe from the extension service.  But all our hides were really thin and tended to dry out and shatter into unuseable shreds.  We ended up with rabbit fur everywhere and kind of a sickly sweet smell to the room.  We gave up but it was fun trying.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2005, 08:14:35 AM »
Dand

It is a lot of work

There are several ways to tan hides.  For small animals this method, while labor intensive requires only things you usually have around the house.

After skinning stretch and tack the pelt on a board hair side down, and let it air dry.  If it is going to be awhile before you can tan them salt the skin side well and keep in a cool place.

Begin tanning by softening the pelts by soaking in several changes of cool water; do not use a metal bucket, as it will react with the salt and or tanning solution.  Soak them only long enough to soften them other wise you may lose the fur.  After the pelt begins to soften lay it out on a board, begin working the hide by holding it taut and pulling the skin side over the edge of a board to break up any bits of skin and fat.  You have to get rid of all that shinny tissue and fat.  You do this by soaking and scraping until it is all off.  I used an old draw scrapper, but an old fine tooth hacksaw blade would also work.

With the pelts almost soft put them warm water that has about an ounce of baking soda per gallon in it, you can also add a little dish soap to help with the grease, and stir them around.  When they are soft take them out of the water and lay them on a board skin side up and begin working them with the backside of a knife, till it looks like a wet chamois.  Then thoroughly rinse the pelt in clean warm water and squeeze out, DO NOT WRING, the water.

Now you are actually ready to tan.  Mix equal parts wood alcohol and turpentine and place the pelt in it so it is completely covered and leave it for 7 to 10 days, you will need to stir or shake the every day because the turpentine and alcohol will separate.  I used an old Igloo water cooler and rolled it around, but you could use a gallon jug depending on how many pelts you have.

After 7 to 10 days take out the pelts and wash them in dish soap, then thoroughly rinse and again SQUEEZE out the water and lay hair side down on a board. While the skin in partially dry you are ready for finishing.  While still damp, NOT WET, mix 3 ounces sulfated neats foot oil; with 3 ounces warm water and 1 ounce of ammonia, this is enough to do quite a few rabbits or a couple of small deer.  Spread this on the skin thoroughly, allow it soak in for about a half hour, and then reapply.  Cover the pelt with a piece of saran wrap and leave overnight.  The next day lay the skin over a pole or chair back hair side up and allow the fur to dry.  When the fur is dry and the skin damp, stretch the skin, and nail the pelt skin side up to a board, nail it about every 5 or 6 inches and about a ½ inch from the edges, use small nails like #6s. Let it dry at room temperature until it is still a little damp.  While the skin is still damp remove from the board and begin stretching it in all directions and work the skin side over a chair bake, or pole or stake, the more it is worked the softer it will be, if the skin begins to dry just dampen it.  It has to be worked while damp and this can be repeated until it is as soft as you desire.

After the skin has been softened, and dried, give it a quick bath in white gas, Squeeze out the excess gas, and lay out the pelt until the skin is just damp and the fur dry, then tumble the fur in saw dust from a hard wood, or you can use corn meal.  Then remove the sawdust by gently shaking, beating combing and brushing.

After all this you have a tanned rabbit skin, which is why tanning has always been considered one of the very worst jobs in the world.  The prep work is very time consuming but it determines the quality of the finished product and the prep is about the same regardless of the tanning agents used.  There are other methods but this one requires nothing special, just a lot of time and effort, good luck.

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2005, 09:03:30 AM »
I lost my favorite hare hunting place to a gravel pit.  :x
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2005, 07:22:15 PM »
I know the feeling Dave..I grew up in Seward and the best hare hunting when I was a kid is where the Spring Creek Maximum Correctional Facility now sits....really depressing. :?
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2005, 09:29:46 AM »
Thanks FE!  You helped me figure out where we went wrong after these many years of wondering. It was fall of 1972 when I tried the tanning.

We missed the fleshing step.  We didn't realize that there was still fat  and stuff on the hide.  They look so clean when we skinned them we assumed we didn't need to flesh.  Missing that step clearly doomed the rest of our work.  

Now I might have to try this again with your clear instructions - if we can find a bunny.  I think my boys would get a kick out of.

Would this work on a fox or other small hide?  We might try a little trapping later this month.

thanks again for the info. I've copied and saved that info.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2005, 12:56:26 PM »
Dand try the brush in the bigger creeks running towards Wood river along the lake road, walk the brush and stay off anything that looks like a regular trail as some will be trplines after the 10th. Also after we get snow and can get around with the machines there is a small but huntable population in the heavy brush along the Wood River

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2005, 01:32:07 PM »
I'm going tomorrow morning for the first time this year. I'm really excited since my girlfriend has showed a great deal of interest as well, and tomorrow will be her first time ever going out and doing some hunting. I can already tell that this will be one of many trips. :grin:

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2005, 07:30:23 PM »
Took my oldest out this afternoon and we hiked about 4 miles.  With that 3/4 in of snow we have now the rabbits have better cover but we only saw a very few tracks.  Didn't take Cattail's advice but we had other things on the agenda as well.  But man oh man I don't think I've ever seen so many fox tracks!  Was surprised we didn't see one but we were crashing around pretty loud.

Yeah, Cattail,  I've putted along some of the willows near Wood R. but usually well after other folks have scoured the area clean. I suspect snogos have driven an awful lot of game away from Dillingham.  Once there is snow I think some of the kids (incl 25 yr + ones) become fused to the seat of their snogo for the weekend!  Don't know how the afford the gas.  That's why I love this type of fall. The serious spark plug recreationists stay home and the back country is pretty quiet.  It was getting dark before we got back to the car but I might have crossed some wolf tracks too.  Hard to tell in the falling light, skimpy snow with all the fox tracks and a few moose tracks.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2006, 01:21:56 PM »
If you guys ever get a chance check out the flats with the black spruce on the Seward side of sterling, lots of bunnies over there.  I live down in Seward, and we are just starting to see more...  around, not too much in past years....  or in many past years....
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2006, 02:11:30 PM »
Just an update on the rabbit hunting this year for myself and a few friends. We've shot about 80 of those little suckers so far. I swear, every time we go out, we have to shoot our way in and out. Awesome year, to say the least.