Author Topic: Question on a Non-Production CZ bolt Gun (Read 924 times)

kb · « **on:** October 21, 2005, 02:16:48 PM »

I have a question about a rifle I came across in a gunshop. It is a custom made bolt action in .270, and according to the gun smith who made it, this is a custom (non-production) 'military' design with a 10 % offset to allow for longer range capabilities. It is stamped CZ, but I cant find anything on their web sight. This also has a tool for trigger and action adjustments....

Does this sound right? Does CZ design or sell rifle actions for custom made rifles? I am very interested in this rifle, but haven't heard of this before, and I would rather double check the facts before I possibly take a chance on this rifle.

Any one have any idea if this is a fallacy, or a true cz product.

Thank You,

Kb

7x57mm · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2005, 04:50:12 PM »

You can buy a CZ action for a custom rifle from Brownell's, but you pay almost as much for an action as you do for a complete rifle. You can get a CZ 550 American rifle in .270 from CZ Connection off of the internet for $479. Also, CZ has a horrible habit of stamping the whole left side of the receiver with its logo. While it is an exceptional action, that logo looks like a bloody billboard. CZ 550s have a very adjustable trigger that individuals can adjust with a small box wrench and a jeweler's screwdriver. The also have a single-set feature whereby after cycling the action, you push the trigger all the way forward and the trigger then becomes a set trigger. About a 12-ounce pull will set the thing off. If the action you saw has no billboard looking logo on the left side of the receiver, and it has a thumbslot, you might have a World War II action produced by Ceska Zbrojovka from the Czech Republic for the German War Machine. The barrel you mentioned, while generally is an acceptable barrel, is far from top-of-the-line. Just go to your search engine and type in CZ-USA and then call up the centerfire rifles. You will see the CZ 550s. They are exceptionally fine weapons. If it were me, I'd buy a CZ 550 American from CZ Connection and put the rest of the money from the $900 toward a darn good scope to go on top of it. Tom Purdom

smike308 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2005, 05:51:33 PM »

7x57--
What is the web address for the CZ Connection? I failed to turn up anything when I tried to go there. TIA
Mike

7x57mm · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2005, 06:20:05 PM »

smike308: I have purchased four rifles from Phil at CZ Connection. I get to his website through a back door at GunBroker.com. Go to that site and in the search engine window type in CZ 550, or CZ 527 if you are interested in one of those. Many of the 550s which come up on GunBroker.com are Phil's. Toward the lower part of his ads for rifles you's see CZ Connection in blue. Click on that and it will take you to his website. You can also find surprisingly inexpensive CZs from Bud's Guns in Tennessee. Do a Google search for Bud's Guns and look for Tennessee in part of the ad. His prices are close to Phil's prices. If you do go the internet route you will have to find a person with an FFL in your area to go through. Tom Purdom

kb · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2005, 09:28:02 AM »

Well I went back to have another look at it today, and it is the 550 action. It is a 550 rebarrelled with an A&B barrel, with CZ wood.

It is a nice looking gun, but I think that it is not worth the $900 price tag.

Any opinions?

kb

Graybeard · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2005, 10:09:49 AM »

Definitely NOT worth $900 unless $500 of it is scope. The A&B barrel is no better than the factory CZ barrel if even as good. With a CZ action and stock you're not getting a custom rifle and chances are it's no better than if as good as the stock CZ rifle. Just have a dealer order up a CZ for you.

smike308 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2005, 08:14:48 PM »

7x57--
Tom, thanks for the assist locating the CZ Connection site. I'll give it a try.
Mike

Simple Man · « **Reply #7 on:** October 24, 2005, 11:13:44 AM »

Ditto on GB's post.

kb · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2005, 10:02:27 AM »

Well after doing some more research, the gun has the $500 three position saftey, single set trigger, 550 action from Brownells, a $100 A&B barrel, and a stock CZ stock ($100???).

So say $700 in materials invested, and a $900 price tag.

Now If I can buy a 550 for $500+/-, what knowlegable gunsmith in his right mind would build a gun like this?

Is it me, or does something seem off about this one?

kb

7x57mm · « **Reply #9 on:** October 26, 2005, 03:52:17 PM »

kb: "ours is not to reason why" or so the saying goes. Have you taken a look at that gunbroker.com site? It has five CZ 550s all under $500 in .270 Winchester and one CZ 550 Full Stock in .270 for $545. Good Luck ... Tom Purdom

Skeezix · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2005, 04:56:02 AM »

Wednesday afternoon, I looked at a new CZ in .270 that I thought was a Winchester Model 70 when I picked it up. It had the M-70 type 3-position safety, a much nicer stock than the usual M-70 (prettier wood and HAND checkering), and fit & finish equal to or better than a M-70. The bolt even disassembles the same as a M-70. VERY nice rifle and the price was right too. If I hadn't just gotten a Ruger 50 Yr Anniversary Blackhawk for my 50th birthday, that rifle would have gone home with me.

Anyway, you now do not have to pay extra to get a M-70 type 3-position safety on a CZ, at least on some CZ models.

Jason · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2005, 12:34:37 AM »

Skeezix,

Are you sure it was a .270 Winchester and not a .270 WSM that you looked at? It sure sounds like you are describing a CZ Model 3, the model that was only offered in the WSM calibers that I know of. The CZ Model 3 action was actually made by Montana Rifleman by a pattern they made that was essentially a tweaked version of the model 70 action.