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7.62x25 Tokarov Ammunition - Yugo Mfg.
« on: October 11, 2005, 11:56:54 AM »
I've had a huge failure rate with this ammo (almost 50%) in my CZ52.  Anybody else?

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 02:08:44 AM »
I got some circa 1956 and 1960 stuff from the sportsmans guide and did not have any failures. The 56s were prone to neck splits! Have you cleaned out your firing pin channel? If it's dirty or greasy that can cause misfires.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 12:49:10 PM »
The question was raised on another forum about the quality of the yugo 7,62x25 ammo and having problems with it and they wondered how good is the yugo 7,62x39 stuff??  I have heard its very very corrosive.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2005, 11:04:08 AM »
It appeared to me that the firing pin indent on the primer was sufficient, but I'll strip it down completely (haven't done that yet) and thoroughly clean the firing pin/channel and let you know.  I have RSO duty this Sat.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2005, 10:48:50 AM »
Removed the firing pin and cleaned pin and channel.  Noticed firing pin has a rather rough finish compared to most firing pins I've seen in other firearms (generally highly polished).

Fired 24 rounds with 4 duds (~12% failure rate).  Still unacceptable.

Step #3:  Polish firing pin and re-test with Yugo ammo.

Step #4:  Test fire with current production Sellier & Belott  ammo.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2005, 11:01:06 AM »
You may want to go to AIMs and pick up a case of the Romainian's!
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2005, 12:07:27 PM »
Polished firing pin, followed by a thorough clean and lube of pistol.

Fired several mags of new S&B ammo with 100% success.  Then tried Yugo ammo again.  Same failure rate - about 1 in 8.

Fired the remainder of a box of S&B with no problems.  I suspect the Yugo stuff has issues.  Regardless, I'll be replacing the pin with an after-market firing pin.  Tried another guy's CZ52, with the replacement pin, at the range Sunday.  WOW, great trigger pull!
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2005, 02:45:16 AM »
Airsporter - a bunch of years ago I had to toss some boxes of Yugo 7.62x25mm milsurp ammo.  Like you I had repeated ftf and thought it was the pistol (Tokarev).  I even replaced the firing pin (the original was still in perfect shape and even a hair longer than the replacement.  All primers had an appropriate dent but the ftf rate was too high to even enjoy shooting the stuff.  Following that I went to S&B and have never had a problem since.  I have used other recent commercial manufacture ammo in that caliber and have not had any problems.  I also found some of the bullets in the Yugo ammo to be undersized for the bore, giving poor accuracy as well as poor reliability.

I would dump the Yugo ammo and stick with the new S&B or other newly manufactured ammo.  HTH.  Mikey.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2005, 05:12:14 AM »
Wasn't there one brand of surplus 7,62x25 ammo that was blowing guns up a while back?  I believe it was surplus machine gun ammo it has a higher powder charge than the pistol ammo.  One must becareful with surplus ammo.  I have some older surplus 9mm I picked up many years ago that seems to be very hot too. I'm getting to the point I don't like to shoot surplus ammo in most of my handguns.  I shoot the S&B and reload for my 7,62x25 Tok's and CZ52.  In my 9mm's I'm shooting new Russian Wolf ammo only now. There were pics of a CZ52 with a blown out barrel from the hotter ammo somewhere.

Here it is;  www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/4653/bad.htm
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2005, 03:56:10 AM »
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You may want to go to AIMs and pick up a case of the Romainian's!


PA-Joe  I just ordered a case of romanian 7,62x25 ammo to give it a try. I don't like what i have heard about the yugo and bulgarian tok ammo. We don't have much of a choice for surplus ammo. I wish we had new russian ammo in 7,62x25 in either wolf, brown/silver bear or barnaul.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2005, 10:10:17 AM »
Just in case you're interested, Old Western Scrounger has 7.62X25 listed for $45 for 2,280 rounds - they advised me it is Czech manufactured.  Here is a link:

http://ows-ammo.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/409

The owner of the place said they had 27 cases left.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2005, 10:47:32 AM »
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I think the problem was diagnosed to be too long a COL. You should do a spin test on all new ammo to check COL. Remove barrel and put round in chamber. It should be able to spin freely. If it does not, the COL is too long and the bullet is catching on the lands. Someone recommending re-seating bullets as a preventative but I forget the COL they were using.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2005, 01:39:03 PM »
I've replaced the issue firing pin with the Harrington competition pin and a new Wolfe 16.5 lb. mainspring.   Trigger pull is now incredibly lighter.  I'd guess about 4 lbs., but I don't have a gauge.  

Not sure I have any Yugo ammo left to test.  Oh well!
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