Author Topic: Remington 700 ADL cheaper than ever. (Read 3082 times)

PEPAW · « **on:** September 09, 2005, 03:19:38 AM »

It appears the Mossburg and the Stevens have created some competition in the bottom end of the market. Our local store is advertising the 700 ADL Synthetic for $286.
I know lots of people bad-mouth Remington, but with a aftermarket stocks and a trigger adjustment mine are nice hunting rifles.

pepaw

slayer · « **Reply #1 on:** September 09, 2005, 11:21:02 AM »

That is $50 less than I have seen it around me. Did they change the looks of the 700ADL Synthetic recently? The thing with this model, is, and I know it`s not a crazy big deal, but I would prefer not to have the sights on the gun, and by that I meen no sights from the factory, but I understand why they put them on this high production model, it gives people a choice. Jack.

myarmor · « **Reply #2 on:** September 09, 2005, 11:25:51 AM »

A cut in cost to us customers is a good thing. As long as the cuts aren't from the quality of a 700 action.

one eye joe · « **Reply #3 on:** September 09, 2005, 11:43:27 AM »

Where are you located, and what store? The cheapest I have seen is $314 at Academy here in Texas.

Grubbs · « **Reply #4 on:** September 09, 2005, 11:47:34 AM »

That's probably all they're worth.

Ramrod · « **Reply #5 on:** September 09, 2005, 01:12:33 PM »

Grubbs has it right. Let's get real here. What do you all think you are going to get from a rifle made in a high tax state like New York, by high paid union help, for these prices??? Sorry guys, these things are crap. Maybe more rifle buying experience will teach you that you actually do get as much as you are willing to pay for.

shoots4fun · « **Reply #6 on:** September 09, 2005, 04:01:40 PM »

Well, they may be crap, but I sure like mine, er...I mean the one I really bought for my wife. The factory sights were good enough for me to hit in the 8 and 9 area on my rimfire 50 yard targets from 80 yards. My wife could even hit the target, one even broke an 8.

I bought this gun so that my wife could have a rifle of her own to use when we go deer hunting. She's not really in to hunting but does like to shoot stuff, especially deer. She doesn't really like using a scope and wouldn't take advantage of them either. Her only complaint with this rifle was the stiff trigger pull which I, never having done this before, was able to adjust the trigger to her liking, it was really simple.

Kudos to those who can afford to drop a grand (or more?) on a rifle (if I could, I would), these guns were built for us commoners. Im glad there is an American company that makes a cheap gun that does the hunting scene well.

myarmor · « **Reply #7 on:** September 09, 2005, 06:57:43 PM »

True. Not everyone has the luxury of blowing $800-1000+ on a new rifle. If you can all, good for you.
But I know I can't. And there are many people like me out there that live on a budget. Do we have to settle for less? No. Not in the accuracy department. Look at the Savage thread about what makes Savages so accurate. Makes a lot of sense. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
But haven't the Marine Snipers been using a 700 action sense vietnam?
I am no history buff, -and no pun intended-action speaks louder then words. :grin:

slayer · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2005, 01:46:50 AM »

I have owned many 700`s, and only sold them because I went to strictly blackpowder firearms. With that being said, my less expensice 700 ADL Synthetic shot just as well as my sweet looking BDL, everyone shot very well, and none had flyers, ever. These were all in .270 as every .270 I ever shot, was very accurate, but I must say Remingtons are very consistant, and I loved the triggers also, as I like a hard pull trigger, it`s what I grew up on. Jack.

Ramrod · « **Reply #9 on:** September 10, 2005, 04:12:54 AM »

Everyone lives within a budget of one kind or another. Everyone has different priorities. As a historical example, I have a copy of an ad from 1884 showing Winchester model 73 lever guns selling for $25 for round barrel, $27 for octagon. This was at a time when most buyers probably made about a dollar a day. Nowadays, you don't hear of too many folks spending a months wages on a gun, but that was how it was done back then.

safetysheriff · « **Reply #10 on:** September 10, 2005, 07:41:31 AM »

Quote from: Ramrod

Grubbs has it right. Let's get real here. What do you all think you are going to get from a rifle made in a high tax state like New York, by high paid union help, for these prices??? Sorry guys, these things are crap. Maybe more rifle buying experience will teach you that you actually do get as much as you are willing to pay for.

give me a break! i've owned, tuned for myself and others, and shot a number of 700 ADL's....and they are Usually tack drivers with very, very little work. the plastic stock may not be the best. i agree with that. but the barrel'd action is as good for the money (accuracy-wise) as you'll get from some of the custom/semi-custom shops. Remington knows what they're doing with their chambering parameters (loose as they sometimes are!) and their hammer-forging, and that is the secret to their success along with the excellent design of the Model 700 action.

if you don't like Rem' that's certainly fine. but to say that they are crap is just about an outright lie!

the only other rifles i'd rate equal (?) to the Rem's, when they are on sale at Wally World very cheaply, are the Weatherby Vanguards and the Ruger 77Mk II's which don't seem to be as accurate as the Rem's. (The Rugers are just so darned reliable and durable)

ss'

PEPAW · « **Reply #11 on:** September 12, 2005, 03:20:38 AM »

That price was at Carter's Country advertised in the Chronicle. It does have iron sights. I took mine off immediately. Also my wife's rifle, it shoots as well as any BDL I have shot.

pepaw

Zachary · « **Reply #12 on:** September 12, 2005, 03:38:30 AM »

I remember ADLs usually cost $399, and even then they are a good value. The plastic stocks may be junk (as is the case for the higher priced BDLs), but the heart and soul of the ADL is still the same - same construction, same design, same great accuarcy.

As one of our members said, all you have to do is just do a good trigger job, perhaps a re-crown, and that's about it - 1" groups with at least one type of factory ammo.

Anything under $300 for an ADL is a steal, and I would buy an ADL over a Savage, Stevens, etc., anyday.

Zachary

fish280 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 12, 2005, 05:33:43 AM »

my latest used adl syn in .270 win came with a decent bushnell variable in leupold/redfield senior mounts and steel rings - all for $275 very slightly used. shot a one-inch group saturday a.m. at 100 yards, sandbagged, with rp 150-grain factory core-lokt ammo. all i did to it was bed it, and sand out the forearm. before the treatment, it shot 1.125-1.25 with 130-grain ww power point factory ammo. the difference could have been me - or the difference in bullet weight, brand, etc. but i betcha with handloads - as if i need to go to the effort for whitetails - it'll go sub inch. and i bought it just as a donor as a project, but it'll get to the woods this season while i'm waiting for the bread for the other project pieces. i'd say it's worth every dime. wouldn't you?

1911crazy · « **Reply #14 on:** September 12, 2005, 06:15:26 AM »

Well first there has been bad reports floating around with some higher priced rifles in quite a few different brands too. Some manufacturers are having quality problems and the new rifle market is turning into a crap shoot as to if you get a good one or not lately. Even if we get a bad one lets face most service departments suck too. This sure makes the new lower end of the new rifle market like mossberg and stevens look very attractive. Overall if you get a good new rifle consider yourself lucky its just not a given anymore no matter how much we spend on them as to wether we get a good one or better one or not. Times and quality sure has changed in the new rifle market since i purchased my last new hunting rifle for sure. My old '94 700 remington shot great right out of the box with over the counter ammo it will put two bullets thru the same hole but so does my older '72 mossberg too with my reloads to this day 3/4" groups. (centerfires) I won't part with these.

I was looking at new hunting rifles but i'm really not sure yet but the mossberg sure does sound like a winner from the ones who have them. I just wish they came in more calibers other than just two(270win & 30-06)

The used guns sure are starting to look interesting too there just maybe an old gal sitting there with some shooting life left in her thats still affordable too. Lets face it hunting rifles don't get shot that much so how many miles could be on them.

poncaguy · « **Reply #15 on:** September 12, 2005, 11:28:39 AM »

My 2 Stevens 200's are very good rifles and very accurate........

billy · « **Reply #16 on:** September 12, 2005, 03:02:59 PM »

I bought a ADL syn. 270 with junk scope for 175.00,got nice walnut stock off ebay for it 40.00 and get some good mounts and scope .Maybe this time i finally got a good deal.

ihuntbucks · « **Reply #17 on:** September 12, 2005, 10:20:03 PM »

You know,last year I put 3 deer in my freezer,and the year before that 4 with a 700 ADL .3006.I bet those deer didn't know they were shot with a "piece of crap" :eek: :lol: ...................Rick

Brithunter · « **Reply #18 on:** September 13, 2005, 02:48:15 AM »

Hi All,

Now as someone said, costs are high so it seems where Remington's are made. However it seems that the whole company needs a shake up. Quality is dropping and the sales folk at Big Green don't seem to care. It may be the bean counters but whoever it is, it's killing the company. OK you folks may not be leaving them but lot's are, I have one rifle brought new in the box which has require remedial work on it and I am not happy about that for sure. If the company was still operating it would have gone back pronto. Never before have I seen such poor assembly and bedding of the stock. It was brought as a representive piece of their last production and no quality is not why they no longer are in business. That was due to some sharp practice by asset strippers

and I have 3 other rifles by the same company to compare them too.

To me it's not acceptable to buy a new rifle then have to replace the trigger, stock and bed it properly to get it to shoot accurately. Poorly finished stocks with more waves than the sea in the wood is not on and when the company then says it's perfectly OK and acceptable quality ................. Boy Oh Boy have they lost the plot :shock: It seems some folks are buying a name as a status symbol, they brought the ads the ideal and when they find out it's not all it's cracked up to be. They then bury their heads in the sand and defend the "brand" to save face.

As the Showman said:-

"There is one born every minute"

Which is as true today as it was back then

We can see the old respected firm of Tikka sliding along with Sako since Berretta got control, and that is a very sad thing

arover2 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 04, 2005, 02:49:49 PM »

Through the 1980' and early 1990's, I purchased four Model 700 ADL's. Three were in .30-06 and one in .270 calibers.
The three '06's had the black synthetic stocks, and the .270 had a very nice walnut satin stock
I have always been a Timney trigger user, and I replaced all four triggers with them. I glass bedded the stocks of all four rifles and pillar bedded them too.
I have always done these same modifications with all my other hunting rifles, Winchester Model 70's and Ruger 77's.
These four Remington 700 rifles have always performed well, with the .270 getting half inch groups at 100 yards, with factory Federal Premiums 130 Grain bullets. From the bench.
The '06 700 has consistantly shot a bit over one inch at 100 yards with Federal Premiums 165 grain bullets. From the bench too.
I reload also, and my reload groups are consistent with factory Federal factory Premiums.
Just last month I purchased a new Remington BDL, in .30-06 that will be a gift for a grandson who begins deer hunting next year. Again I will do the same work on this BDl I have done on my other four 700's.
Yes, you can buy more expensive foriegn made rifles that you don't have to pillar bed, and glass bed the stocks. But it's nice to shoulder a rifle that you have tuned yourself with great results.

NONYA · « **Reply #20 on:** October 04, 2005, 04:51:58 PM »

I ordered my 7mag from Remingtons custom shop and that was the first question they asked,sights or no sights?Tapped or untapped?Wood or synthetic?BDL or BDL DM?Ect Ect...they finished it in 2 weeks and I had it here in MT in 16 days,one of the most accurate rifles I have ever seen,and a very nice engraved reciever with a stylizer Remington logo.I ordered from the custom shop because they didnt produce the combo i was looking for at the time,and if I ever buy another Rem it will come from there also.

PEPAW · « **Reply #21 on:** October 05, 2005, 01:31:37 AM »

You don't have to replace the stock. I hunted with that plastic stock for a couple of years. I did a home camo job on it and it was a coyote zapper.
The trigger I did not replace. I had a smith adjust it and it works great for hunting.
I know Remington is not the only or best gunmaker, but mine have been workhorses for affordable prices.

pepaw

Mike357mag · « **Reply #22 on:** October 11, 2005, 03:55:31 AM »

yes remington works but they are the only manufacturer of "quality rifles" that I have had the experience of seeing a bolt handle come off of the bolt body while a customer was looking at it in the store (yes it was new). I think they don't care much about reputation, after all they did put there name on the 710 model, with out a name on it I would have thought lorcin got into the rifle business. I would consider buying a remington 700 if it was made a long time ago. Their quality control is miserable at best.

redial · « **Reply #23 on:** October 12, 2005, 02:26:27 AM »

Well, it sounds as if Remington is listening - if only grudgingly. Stevens and Mossburg and CZ and Savage have snatched away a large part of the "not pretty but cheap and accurate" market from Remmy and it looks like they're doing something about it.

Whether bean counters can be relied upon to make the right decision ..., well I dunno but it appears that they know they had to do SOMETHING. It's a start.

I was happy to see the CDL lefty rifles (in 223!) appear too!

Redial

fish280 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 12, 2005, 05:34:10 AM »

well, my little j-lock .270 adl went to the range yesterday with a nikon monarch 6x42 aboard. it is a CONSISTENT 1 1/8 - 1 1/4 inch shooter at 100 yards with factory ww power point 150-grainers and factory federal premium 150-grainers (federal loads sierra gamekings in this iteration) off sandbags. i am utterly confident in its accuracy. i must say did bed it, add a steel triggerguard, and open the forend - which i'd do for ANY brand factory rifle that didn't already have such. i'd say, for a $275 used rifle, it'll do. and it'll do even better with handloads.

Grubbs · « **Reply #25 on:** October 13, 2005, 05:53:55 AM »

I take my Tikkas (3 of them, which none of them cost more than $495) to the range with factory ammo and shoot 1/2" all day with factory ammo. None of them had to be bedded or trigger job. Out of the box with this type of accuracy can't be beat in my experience. That's a pretty good buy on the Remmy though.

fish280 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 13, 2005, 08:59:35 AM »

grubbs: that would be $220 more for a tikka, which is almost the cost of the nikon i put on it. i wouldn't mind trying a tikka, but not until they're going for $275 used.

PEPAW · « **Reply #27 on:** October 14, 2005, 02:22:43 AM »

Quote from: fish280

grubbs: that would be $220 more for a tikka, which is almost the cost of the nikon i put on it. i wouldn't mind trying a tikka, but not until they're going for $275 used.

Exactly what I was thinking. Spend that on scope, bases, and ammo. My 3200 Elite cost only a little less than the handi-rifle I recently bought.

pepaw

csam · « **Reply #28 on:** October 23, 2005, 04:28:37 PM »

Then how is it that whever you see an action for sale they want $350 and up? I guess that is for the labor of removing the stock and barrel?

alsatian · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2005, 05:17:58 AM »

Quote from: PEPAW

That price was at Carter's Country advertised in the Chronicle. It does have iron sights. I took mine off immediately. Also my wife's rifle, it shoots as well as any BDL I have shot.

pepaw

When you take off the iron sights, what do you need to do, plug the holes with screws?

I bought a Synthetic stocked ADL in .30-06 yesterday at the BassProShop opening in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, for $297. I have an adequate battery of rifles for my hunting needs, but these other rifles are pretty nice and I don't want to take them out in the rain. I sat out two days of deer season last year because it was raining. This rifle will be a rainy day rifle and a back-up. For the time being I'm not planning to put a scope on it at all but use it with the iron sights. I may change my mind on that in time.