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Offline Old Sparky

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« on: August 17, 2005, 09:44:40 AM »
I have a Browning 45-70 BPCR on the way and need to get some reloading equiptment. What is a good start for a 500 gr. bullet mold I know this is a real general question with a lot of answers but I have know idea what to try. I also will be buying brass and dies.
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2005, 12:34:41 PM »
Hey Sparky...

You're probably going to get a lot of opinions on this question and I'd be inclined to believe most of them.  There are lots and lots of good 45 cal. bullet molds out there nowadays.  For what it's worth, here's my opinion.  I've long used the RCBS 500 BPC bullet mold and have no complaints whatsoever.  It usually weighs between 508 and 515 grains from my mold depending on how accurate my alloy is.  I shoot 25-1, or try to, and segregate my bullets into batches of + or - 1 grain.  It works fine for me.

If you like a bore rider, and I do, the old Lyman 457125 is a fine bullet, provided it fits your bore.  From my mold with the same alloy they go around 520 grs.  It has been the most consistently accurate bullet in a variety of 45 caliber rifles for me for a long time.  I don't believe it holds up as well as other bullet designs beyond 300 yards but it is a grand old bullet.  It's also a bit more economical than the RCBS but I don't believe the Lyman molds are as robust, especially the sprue plate.

You can spend a lot more money for molds from custom makers and I have some, they're very good, but I believe a good starting place would be the RCBS mold.  I expect they've become pretty expensive too since I bought mine.

Brass.....mostly I have Winchester cases because that's what I had when I started shooting BPCR's.  Starline, Remington, Federal...I've used them all with equal success......as long as I segregate the cases by weight and index the bullets when I seat them.

Dies....any of the major players, RCBS, Lyman, Pacific, Hornady......I'm not particularly fond of Lee but they're certainly adequate.  That's my opinion and it's worth what you paid for it.....hehehe.

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2005, 02:31:25 PM »
Sparky, Try the Saeco moulds OR go straight to Paul Jones!
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2005, 06:47:58 PM »
On-line BPCR reloading primer:

http://www.ssbpcrc.co.uk/Resources/Introduction%20to%20BPCR%20Loading.pdf

On-line bullet casting handbook:

http://www.ssbpcrc.co.uk/Resources/Introduction%20to%20BPCR%20Loading.pdf

Both of these were written by successful BPCR competitive shooters.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2005, 05:09:56 AM »
Thanks for the Help I have really enjoyed reading the online books
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2005, 06:16:15 AM »
I've got a 13.99$ single cavity mold from Track of the wolf.  It does very well so far, cast a 510 grain slug with my alloy.  Tried it out at a 1000 yard range and did better than I can hold the gun.  Course after casting I had a few that had to go back into the melting pot, but that's with any mold.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2005, 04:59:03 AM »
Sparky: From first hand experience, the 535 gr. Lyman Postell 457132 mold works very well in the Brownings.  Cast 25/1 at .459  Of course there are a lot of fancy and more expensive molds out there, but the good old Lyman Postell is hard to beat.  If I were you, before I bought any mold, and took my advise or others, I'd buy some good bullets and try them first.  Best Regards steve witt

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2005, 04:07:08 AM »
sparky wy dont you give this one a try its a lee 500r with 20to1 mix its 508 grns has a ballistic coefficient of .443 and cost $13.95 from track of the wolfe its ashooter. bernie :)  
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2005, 04:12:19 PM »
Thanks for the help on my questions. My Bpcr should be here tomorrow, will I be able to sleep tonight. I have ordered a 457132 mold a set of RCBS dies a compression die, a hammer punch, a sheet of veggy wad material in both thicknesses, spg lube, starline brass, a 55 powder measure and picked up a couple cans of goex cartridge. I hope this about gets me started in this black powder cartridge. I think I need more overtime yuck.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2005, 06:03:26 AM »
Sparky:  Looks like you are well on your way to enjoying the 1885 BPCR with the items you have ordered.  One suggestion would be to anneal the necks of the Starline brass.  Although I do not use Starline in the 70, I have found the Starline brass too hard in my 90's.  I would think the same would apply to the 70 brass, and your Browning will like it better if annealed.  I"ve shot the Browning a good deal in competition and have some other suggestions I would share with you if you want to send me a PM.      Best regards steve witt

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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2006, 05:44:50 PM »
Hi, in this post, there is a reference to the reloading and the bullet casting handbooks from the UK.  They are the same links.  Sure would like to read the one on bullet casting if anyone knows the link.  Thanks for putting up with a newbie.
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2006, 06:40:32 PM »
http://www.longrangebpcr.com/

click on ammunition, then casting, then 8 phase.
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