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Offline mattparliament

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Intriqued by Barnes 250 grain .458
« on: July 19, 2005, 12:26:16 PM »
I know, I know, why try and make a 45-70 into something it's not.  I'm intriqued however.  Does anybody use the Barnes 250 grainers in their 45-70's?  If so, like em'? hate em'? I've found one link with a load:

http://www.reloadersnest.com/detail.asp?CaliberID=91&BulletWeight=250&LoadID=9674

No pressure numbers listed however :(   Just curious, I love my 45-70 and would enjoy making it even more versatile.  Don't get down on me too much for this one, I'd love some honest input.  Thanks guys!
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2005, 12:38:42 PM »
Hmmm, interesting!! That's almost the identical same load I'm shooting in my scoped 45-70 Handi, but with the 300gr Nosler partition. That bullet appears to be obsolete, it's not on the Barnes site, but Midway does have it in stock.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=819504

http://www.barnesbullets.com/prodx-bullet.php

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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2005, 01:15:26 PM »
Barnes has some interesting 458's especially if you want to get pass through with an end to end shot on cape buffalo. How about a 500gr Barnes solid, or a 600gr Barnes Original?
http://www.midwayusa.com/esearch.exe/search?TabID=0&category_selector=all_products&search_keywords=barnes+458

Or better yet, how about a tungsten African Grand Slam? Midway doesn't sell 600gr any more, but the 500gr are on sale:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=528023
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2005, 03:08:42 PM »
Speaking of 500gr AGS....the one on the left.... :eek:

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 03:50:11 PM »
Wouldn't a 250 grain .458 bullet have a very poor sectional density?
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2005, 04:13:32 PM »
The 250gr barnes has an SD of .170 and .172 BC. For comparison, the 300gr Nosler partition has an SD of .204 and .199 BC.

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2005, 07:07:26 PM »
Can't speak for this Barnes bullet...but the 300 grain Nosler is my most favorite bullet for the 45-70...and it does a super job on whitetails...

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2005, 11:14:01 AM »
Yeah, I usually use Hornady's 300 grainer with a whole bunch of 4198 behind it and couldn't be happier.  I have the barnes manual and they only load it up to 2401fps (ruger loads), I am getting more than that with my 300's,  but the Barnes book is quite lite on all of their 45-70 stuff so I've stuck to other sources.  I think that with the BC barrel that I have I may be able to get some pretty good speed out of this sucker.  Loading up gradually and checking for pressure signs of course.  Any thoughts??

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2005, 11:33:59 AM »
Matt, nothing that really helps you, but I've not shot or loaded the X bullets in anything, yet....I'm gonna load the 350gr XFB .411" bullet in my 405 Winchester from a rechamber/rebored 28" H&R Target barrel when I get it back from the smith, hope to make some good loads for it later this summer. With a BC of .536 and an SD of .296, it should be a shooter with some wollup!! It's the bullet second from the right....the one on the right is the (correction) 300gr Nosler partition .458".

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2005, 01:59:22 PM »
I stopped trying new stuff with my .45-70 when it started shooting 3/4" groups at 100 yards with a 300 grain cast bullet. I figured nothing would do better than that.
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2005, 03:08:55 PM »
If I remember correctly, yes it pertains to factory ammo, but didn't
either Federal and or Winchester sell 250 grain offerings for the
45/70? Reason I ask, is because I remember seeing them several
years ago at the local outfitters. Second,doesn't PMC Silverline
ammo for this old girl something close to what he was loading the 250 gr at?
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2005, 02:07:42 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2005, 05:36:52 PM »
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