Author Topic: Controled Round Feed Actions (Read 892 times)

vernonp · « **on:** July 11, 2005, 01:11:20 PM »

These actions can be a real pain in the butt. I can not remember ever having feeding problems with a push feed action. I currently have a Kimber 308 and a CZ 527 that I wish had push feed actions. I do not see any advantage to the CRF action. I will never buy another unless I change from the way I feel now. I dislike these actions more than detachable magazines, which is another story. Your opinions--vernonp

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2005, 01:15:31 PM »

You should of got what works for you. Some people have arguments both good and bad for either one. I have both and use each without a problem. So I guess my answer was not help at all. :-D

Yukon Jack · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2005, 01:50:14 PM »

In my opinion, it isn't a controlled feed action if it doesn't feed!!! Kimber have been a lot of negative reviews online lately because of sloppy work. This is the first report on CZ missing the boat. Poor quality control of a Mauser type or Winchester M70 action is a function of the factory and personnel, not the action design. Those actions are designed not to fail, though when you employ people manufacturing them that don't give a flip, you get a worthless action.

I'd be ticked too, but not at the design...

Jimi · « **Reply #3 on:** July 11, 2005, 01:52:01 PM »

Having hunted in Africa on several occasions and been with and around numerous PHs... Don't think a one of them would consider a push feed rifle.

Curious, that.

Rogue Ram · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2005, 11:01:20 PM »

He needs to be a little more descriptinve as to whats wrong here. The CZ 527 series has a known problem, its the trigger guard, magazine holder. If this is seated either too deep or too shallow into the stock, the rounds don't feed properly. Its a well known problem and well documented on some guns. Mine doesn't do it however. If this is the issue send it to CZ, they'll fix it.

RR

vernonp · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2005, 03:44:01 AM »

Rogue Ram--------You are correct concerning the 527, It is the magazine.The Kimber may feed one round and then bind with the next. I just never can feel comfortable that it will feed.---------All I am saying is these are problems that would not exist if the rifles were push feed. I am doing a lot of shooting from the bench lately and I realise it would be nice to be able to single feed the rounds also. I have a CZ 550 American in 270 that feeds fine. I do feel that I am through with the CRF. There is a potential for problems that do not exist with the push feed.

Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2005, 07:23:37 AM »

Over the years I have had both push-feed and CRF rifles and have never had a problem with either. Savage and Ruger in the push mode, Ruger in the CRFs. All-in-all I prefer the CRFs but wont make a buy/no-buy decision of that characteristic alone.

Jimi · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2005, 10:54:57 AM »

I've heard nothing to make me think your problem is a function of whether it is a CRF or push feed, but if you're talking about (mostly) target shooting just stick with push feeds. The benefit of a CRF doesn't mean much at the rifle range so no worries.

Lawdog · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2005, 11:09:05 AM »

Quote from: Jimi

I've heard nothing to make me think your problem is a function of whether it is a CRF or push feed, but if you're talking about (mostly) target shooting just stick with push feeds. The benefit of a CRF doesn't mean much at the rifle range so no worries.

Totally agree with this. The only time to worry if your shooting a Push Feed or Control Round Feed is if the receiving party has big teeth/claws on top of a bad attitude and less than good intentions for your health. Lawdog

Yukon Jack · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2005, 11:57:59 AM »

Quote from: vernonp

All I am saying is these are problems that would not exist if the rifles were push feed. I am doing a lot of shooting from the bench lately and I realise it would be nice to be able to single feed the rounds also. I have a CZ 550 American in 270 that feeds fine. I do feel that I am through with the CRF. There is a potential for problems that do not exist with the push feed.

The problem would not exist if the rifle was manufactured properly. If it was a push and had issues, like some problems with Remington, you could be having a broken extractor, bolt handle popping off, or any number of other issues. This is a quality problem, not a problem with the design or platform of CRF actions.

poncaguy · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2005, 05:08:48 PM »

I have a Winchester Super Shadow 270 WSM, I think it's a combination of both..........anyway, it works just great!

Slamfire · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:51:05 PM »

It don't matter to me very much. I know how to make a controlled feed out of a Savage or Winchester push feed. That don't mean it'd work any better. The best ones have their feed lips made as part of the reciever, not the magazine box.

peakoftherut · « **Reply #12 on:** July 17, 2005, 07:21:18 PM »

I have a Ruger crf and have never had a problem with it. I think anyone in the states that needs protection from double feeding is muffing there first shot.