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dont know about the long frame but i just shot a 475/480 bfr that a guy had at the linebaugh seminar. it was a 5.5''? with a bisley grip frame. he installed it himself. the grip was in round butt configuration. he did exellent work. the load was a 370gr. at 1400+ and it was very shootable. i was way surprised as usually the bisley pounds the heck out of my middle finger. he may have done something to the grips too. If you want his name, I could try to find it for you.512