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Offline HouseofCash

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« on: May 05, 2005, 06:18:48 PM »
Okay, I do not know much about the .308. My father-in-law has a Rem. 40X-B in .308, its really on of the best rifles I have ever shot. But, outside of that I have never shot any other .308. I have only shot that one a hand full of times and it was always at paper.

But, Im looking into getting one for my self and I need a little help.

How does it compare to a .30-06?

Is it a good deer/boar/bobcat/black bear round?

Can I push this round out to 300 yards?

Is it a dieing round, how is the availability and will it be a round you can find easy in 15 years?

What is the FPS?

               Thanks for any help.
                           Dave.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2005, 07:50:56 PM »
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Is it a good deer/boar/bobcat/black bear round?


YES!  308 is a hard hitting bullet, plenty for any of the animals listed except maybe a real large black bear

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Can I push this round out to 300 yards?


Of course.  Looking at 150 grain Remington Core Lokt PSP's, there will only be a drop of 1.97" from 100 to 200 yards.  So sighting your gun in at 100 yds 2" high would give you a 200 yard zero.  Between 200 and 300 yards, the bullet drops 8.79".

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What is the FPS?
2820fps with that particular factory load

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how is the availability and will it be a round you can find easy in 15 years?
.308 can be an extremely accurate cartridge, and has been relied on from everyone from hunters to military snipers for years and years.  I don't think it's going anywhere!


Hope my response was of some help at all, it's 1am here and I'm tired - Just thought I would chime in.  Good luck  :D
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2005, 08:00:59 PM »
I too am a fan of the .308.  

Not to highjack houseofcash's thread, but may I add one more question...

Is the 30.06 more versatile?  Does the 30.06 offer an advantage for truly big game - moose, grizzly, etc?

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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2005, 08:37:31 PM »
HuntingGuy, thank you for the info.



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Not to highjack houseofcash's thread, but may I add one more question...

Is the 30.06 more versatile? Does the 30.06 offer an advantage for truly big game - moose, grizzly, etc?



No worries. I would like to know too. How does the .30-06 hold up to the .308?

I have hurd the .30-06 is a better all around round. And I have hurd the .308 is a better round. It has me lost. They are both 7.62, right? The .30-06 case is longer. I have no clue what is a better bullet.

    Any info.?
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2005, 11:57:36 PM »
HouseofCash, the .308 was developed by the military after the second world war. The idea was to get .30-06 performance in a smaller package so the troops could carry more ammo. Loaded to higher pressure, with the then newest powders, it did give similar velocity with lighter bullets.
But the .30-06 performance was boosted by the ammo makers around the same time.
For a deer hunter, there is not much difference, but the .30-06 will always be superior, especially with heavy bullets because of the bigger case.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2005, 09:12:33 AM »
For the game that you mentioned the 308 is just as good as the 30-06. In 150 grain bullets they are so close I guarantee the animal will never know the difference. They are also built on short actions which are a little handier and lighter.-------For bigger game like Elk the 30-06 is better, it will give enough extra velocity with 180 and 200 gr. bullets that I would prefer it. The 308 is my favorite round for deer size game or for any animal up to 400 lbs or so.--REGARDS---vernonp
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2005, 09:14:47 AM »
Both are versatile, proven, well-respected cartridges. They shoot the same .308 caliber bullets, though the '06 can utilize a heavier bullet.  The distinction that I would draw is this... If you are senstive to recoil, go with a .308. If you're not as sensitive to it, the .30/'06 is a bit beefier. And that is not to infer that the .30/'06 is a big kicker, but rather that the .308 has a pretty light recoil.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2005, 01:34:21 PM »
I'll agree on the bullets under 180 grains do pretty well in the .308, but they really ain't much for long range, the short .30s give up too much velocity over 300 yards to have a good trajectory. Either the 7mm-08 or the .260 will out preform it with bullets that are lighter but have better ballistic properties. And if you ever get to go for something bigger than deer, the heavier bullets in either don't give up much in the way of penetration.  :wink:
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