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Offline Double D

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« on: February 13, 2003, 04:54:37 AM »
It has been suggested that Wheel weights can be cooked clean to produce virtually pure lead.

The process recommended is to heat the lead hot and keep skimming off the stuff that floats to the top.  The pot is not fluxed between skimming but it is stirred.

First off will be the dirt and clips, the black dross.  Then the trace materials materials in the form of a yellowish brown powder float to the top.  All this stuff is skimmed off.  Finally when this metal turns from shiny silvery to blue and no more trace materials float to the top, the blue is allowed to form a crust and that is skimmed off.  The pot is fluxed at this point and the remaining metal is supposed to be pure lead.

Anybody familiar with this process and does it work? Seems in theory it should work?

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2003, 06:11:35 AM »
Hi Double D. Ive done this for a while. I dont know how pure the lead is, But it is soft enough that I can mark it with a finger nail. It works good in my front loaders.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2003, 06:59:21 AM »
Hi, DD!

I would pretty much go with your description of melting down wheel weights to make ingots EXCEPT:

1.  You NEED to flux the melt even at this point to evenly distribute the tin content.  Tin is lighter, and having a melting point close to lead, will float to the top and produce that "skin" that you described.  If you remove that skin, you throw out lots of tin!  Flux can be almost anything that melts: candle wax, beeswax, old bullet lube, Crisco, etc.

2.  Lead alloy is a mechanical mixture, not a chemical one.  To keep the melt properly uniform from the time it is melted to the time it is poured into ingots, to be re-melted and poured into finished bullets, it NEEDS constant fluxing.  Scraping the ladle or scoop against the sides and bottom of the melting pot will loosen impurities (ash, carbonized lubricant and oils, etc. and float it to the top for removal.

3.  Now, of course, if your intent is to reduce tin content, then yes, skimming off the "skin" is acceptable.

4.  Use a cast iron melting pot.  Something with moderate surface area (to minimize "skin") and deep enough to contain a significant quantity of WW.  I would avoid cast iron frying pans.

The above observations come from over 30 years of bullet casting and tutoring from a master machinist metal shop teacher whose skills included making cast bullets SO PURTY they bring tears to your eyes!
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2003, 01:40:21 PM »
John,

That's the whole idea to get rid of everything, tin included and get back to lead only.  As close as we can get to pure lead. We don't want to flux until we get everything out but the lead.

Once we have the lead then we will start adding known quantities of things like tin, so we get to the alloy we want.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2003, 06:26:08 PM »
I use a plumbers pot to metl the WW and skim everything off at this point. I then pourit into my ingets.   When I get ready to cast bullets I melt in a electric melter to control temp., at this time I add my flex to the lead and cast away
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