Author Topic: Limb Saver De-Resonator...fact or fiction??? (Read 2775 times)

Mac11700 · « **on:** March 23, 2005, 08:26:25 AM »

Hey Guys:

I had the most interesting day at the range today...I picked up one of these little slip on the barrel " Gimmicks" as was put to me at the gun store...and was told not to waste my money...with Quickdtoo's help on posting my pictures...judge for yourself...sorry for the poor quality photos...I'm rushing to head off to work...the ammo I shot was all factory ammo...130 grain Winchester Supreme silver ballistic tips...130 sp grain Federal calssic...130 grain Federal classic Grand Slam... and the remainder of my Weatherby Factory 150 grain soft points...the blurry shots are of the Winchesters...my camera is acting up...and I will try to fix that...all shots at 100 yards...37 degree's light wind...if you can make out the differences that's good...and after Quick post the pictures for me...I'll add which is which...but you all should see the differences...for me...it's worth the $16.00 I spent on it...

This is my new restocked Weatherby Vangaurd...it hasWeatherby's Accugaurd stock(tan/black spider web) instead of the Butler Creek stocks that come on it...and also a Timney Trigger assemble put on it...Leupold 3x9x40 VX-1 scope Burris Signature rings Leupold adjustable base

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A picture of the resonator at the front of the stock

Winchester 130 grain Silver Ballistic tips with out the resonator

With the resonator

Bottom right target...Weatherby Factory 150 sp with out...up above the center cross hair is with it on...top right group...Federal 130 gr SP Classic with out...yep...I took 5 shots on this one...

Top left group...federal 130 SP Classic with it on...all the groups improved dramaticly...More later...

Mac

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2005, 08:54:46 AM »

Lookin good, Mac!!! :agree: :agree: :agree:

Deadeye47 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2005, 09:55:45 AM »

:shock: very interesting..... I've seen something like that before but never had any examples to reference to....

P.S. Very nice non-NEF rifle too Mac!! :wink: :-D :-D

MIdeerhunter · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2005, 10:51:15 AM »

I bought one too...at first my family members thought it was extremely stupid looking and laughed at it...i laughed at it too...i put it on my 6mm rem. to try it out and if it works good i might switch it to my handi rifle, but the 6mm's groups have been opening up lately so i took it apart, used JB on the bore, cleaned it very good, re-tightened the scope bases, etc... waiting for some warm weather to try it out with the barrel deresonator...

HuntingGuy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2005, 04:20:20 AM »

Mac,

Did your grouping improve from before, or is this the first time you shot the gun (with the deresonator)?? Real purrrrrrdy rifle too :oops: I'm a sucker for a nice synthetic stocked gun with a Leupy up top :-D

borg1 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2005, 04:59:28 AM »

Mac,

Was the first group you fired, without the resonator, from a clean barrel? It seems wider than the unresonated groups you fired later on.

The remainder of your with and without resonator groups do look very different, but not as dramatic as the first group you shot and then subsequent resonated and unresonated groupings.

In other words, what procedure did you follow between groupings?

I am j/k, i am thinking of one myself...

gunnut69 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:08:21 AM »

Adding weight to a rifle barrel can help accuracy. Moving the weight on the barrel can affect the group size. That's the theory behind the BOSS. I would bet the same or similar results could be had with any weight clamped to the barrel.

Zachary · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2005, 06:59:34 AM »

My thoughts exactly.

My concern about this little rubber donut is that, unlike the BOSS that can be tightened, this donut is more apt to slide and move, thus changing the harmonics.

Zachary

Mac11700 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2005, 07:51:13 AM »

OK:

I'll take these in order...

HuntingGuy;...yes this the first time I shot this rifle with the de-resonator on it....and the new stock...and the new trigger...it is a absolute joy to shoot now....Thanks for the comment...

borg 1;...The first group I fired was without the resonator...it was from a extremly clean cold bore...I fired 1 fouling shot with the same ammo as my first group...which was the Weatherby factory 150SP Winchester load.. Then the Federal 130 Classic load...then the 3 shot groups of the Winchester Supreme ammo...I didn't clean between switching brands...and was the reason for shooting the Winchesters last....I was taking the de-resonator on & off between groupings...and all groups after the Weatherby ammo was fired from a vey warm barrel...with the total time for this complete shooting outing taking less than 1 hour...

gunnut69;...your right about moving it at least according tto the provided intructions...I haven't really tried it in all possible positions..

Zachary;...that's one thing you don't have to worry about...it will stay in place ...believe me... it's not easy to put them on...and it's a real chore to take them back off...they don't move freely at all...and usually turn inside out getting them off...they are easily put back right side out...

I guess I should have done a-little better job with my post...and put the pictures in order of my shooting...sorry for the confusion...I was running late for work...and had to have help from Quickdtoo in getting the pictures sized properly for posting...which I think he did a pretty good job for me...Thanks Quick...

Mac

borg1 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:34:05 AM »

Mac,

Overall i think the pics speak for themselves. Good looking gun, and good looking groups. FActory loads, eh? i bet that'll shoot with some reloads!

I am thinking of buying one for my 10/22 and .308. After your post i think i will!!! :wink:

Mac11700 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2005, 11:00:21 AM »

borg1:

Thanks...I can't say that your results will be as good...but for me...I'm going to pick up a few more to try on my Handi's and see if it helps as much...

Mac

147 Grain · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2005, 07:25:07 AM »

For those who've tried the LimbSaver Barrel De-Resonator, did you get the best groups with the device about 1" ahead of the stock's forearm?

MT4XFore · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2005, 09:33:23 AM »

Hi fellas,

I put a deresonator on a 22" barreled 22-250. I have no before and after groups, just after groups. I developed loads for the gun AFTER I put the deresonator on. All I know is that I can shoot 5 shots that you can cover with a dime at 100 yds. I have the deresonator about 1/2" from the end of the forearm on the Rem. 700. With that kind of grouping I really dont want to experiment too much, especially since there are lots of prairie dogs that need shootin'! The only down side to the whole thing is that a couple of my so-called friends refer to it as my gun's c**k ring. Oh!...the pain we put up with to shoot em all in the same hole!!!! It works!!!

Mac11700 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2005, 09:51:57 AM »

Quote from: 147 Grain

For those who've tried the LimbSaver Barrel De-Resonator, did you get the best groups with the device about 1" ahead of the stock's forearm?

147grain:

I'll be finding out how much the accuracy will alter in a few weeks...I'm keeping it on the Weatherby for now...but will be trying some judicious hand loads with a whole slew of different bullets for it...90 grain varmint style...up to 160 grain partitions...I just haven't had the time here lately to do much of any shooting...but as you can see from my picks were I have it on mine...

Mac

147 Grain · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2005, 10:05:31 AM »

Thanks Mac for your willingness to provide feedback on the Barrel De-Resonator!

I have two new 30-06 rifles to sight-in in the next two weeks as well (once the second scope arrives) and I'll report back on how it performs.

Steve

147 Grain · « **Reply #15 on:** June 17, 2005, 02:23:40 PM »

Any updates with the LimbSaver's Barrel De-Resonator?

kenjs1 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 21, 2005, 09:30:03 AM »

Put one on my 260 Stalker and went a few weeks ago. It was terribly hot and the barrel was not cooled enough after the first few shots so I left thinking the first shot next time out would tell. Took it to the 50 yard range last weekend and thought I missed the paper completely. Looked again and in the target's epicenter was a perfect hole. I removed the target as it was my only shot at that target and was sort of gloating. We shot other rifles and then went to the 100 yard range. First shot with the 260 was 1" high dead center -exactly where it ought to be. For the moment I am a believer. The deresonator doesn't look too out of place on a stainless - synthetic and did nothing to upset balance. I put it the recommended 1/2" or so from the stock.

147 Grain · « **Reply #17 on:** August 05, 2005, 09:48:21 AM »

Update:

Went to the range today to see how my Remington 7400 30-06 autoloader would do with the Sims Barrel De-Resonator and (after loosening the forend stock's screw to just finger tight) achieved the following results:

August 5, 2005
12:10pm - No wind, but 94*F.
Target Distance: 100 meters
Ammo: Federal Premium Vital Shok 180-gr. Nosler Solid Base
Results: 4 shots within 5/8" from center to center.

Previously, with no Barrel De-Resonator and the stock's forend screw very tight:

June 2, 2005
10:30am - Slight East to West wind, and 81*F.
Target Distance: 100 meters
Ammo: Federal Premium Vital Shok 180-gr. Nosler Solid Base
Results: 4 shots within 1 3/4" from center to center

Seems that these two small adjustments cut the groups in half. The $19.95 Barrel De-Resonator was installed about 1 1/4" in front of the stock's forend screw, which seems to be the magic spot on this rifle.