Author Topic: Who uses a Timney Trigger on their rifle (Read 2076 times)

Mac11700 · « **on:** March 17, 2005, 05:00:48 PM »

I just got one and installed it on my Weatherby Vangaurd...and it is the nicest trigger pull I've ever gotten out of a rifle trigger...way to light for the factory setting (24oz).. but no creep...no over travel...just instantanious click....I think they are well worth the money...what do you all think???

Mac

RonO777 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2005, 05:27:49 PM »

Same here I just put one on my Vanguard last week. Very nice, well worth the money.

Ron

Catfish · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2005, 05:29:26 PM »

You can`t beat a good trigger no matter who`s it is. I had Timney and afew other custom triggers, plus I`ve worked on a few myself and I`m here to tell you a good trigger is worth it weight in gold.

Ramrod · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2005, 06:05:48 PM »

Have one on a 1908 Mauser. Breaks like the proverbial glass rod. :grin:

NimrodRx · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2005, 06:27:36 PM »

Putting a Timney on my M77 22-250 made me a believer.

Very nice indeed.

lilabner · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2005, 03:16:19 AM »

I put a Timney in an '03 Springfield and have been very pleased with it. A complete absence of creep and a crisp letoff. It was at 2 pounds at first and that seemed a bit light for a big game rifle so I adjusted to 3. Well worth the inexpensive price.

Zachary · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2005, 05:39:25 AM »

I have a Timney on a Winchester M70 Classic Stainless in .338 Win. Mag. Is it a good trigger? Yes. Is it worth it? Yes. However, is it necessary? I don't think so.

Why? Well, let me tell you. If you take a factory Winchester, or even Remington, trigger, and have a competent gunsmith do a trigger job on it, the trigger can be adjusted down to a safe 2.5 lbs with no creep or pull. I honestly can't tell the difference between my tuned factory triggers and a Timney trigger.

Now, if you want to talk about high-end after-market triggers, then take a look at the Jewel Trigger. They are over $200 and just awesome. For hunting, I really don't think that they are necessary either. The only reason that I had a gunsmith install one on my Remington M70 BDL SS DM in 7mm-08 is because the factory trigger was exceptionally junk - a defect if you will - and there was no way that even a trigger job would have helped - the dang thing would swing left to right more than a Vegas showgirl. I would have bought a Timney, but the only thing that the gunsmith had was a Jewell and I needed to have it installed right away and go sight in the gun at the range because I was going on a hunt out of town the following week.

Again, Timney triggers are good (not as great as Jewels, but good nonetheless). Still, you can have a competent gunsmith do a trigger job on the factory Winchester trigger and you can't tell the difference.

Zachary

Mac11700 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2005, 06:12:46 AM »

Zachary:

I do know there are custom triggers available...that are most likely much better than the Timney...and that most competent gunsmiths can tune a factory trigger to be excetptionally crisp..but to be able to walk into a store...plop down $68 bucks and go home and install it yourself...in a matter of minutes...is pretty amazing...I would bet that there are a bunch of guys who suffer thru some really crappy trigger pulls wishing they could do something about it...never realizing just how easy or cheap it is to correct it...without having to leave your rifle with a gunsmith...now I know there will always be exceptions to this...but..they do make a bunch of different triggers for a-lot of different guns...

Mac

Ramrod · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2005, 04:50:01 PM »

Anyone who has an IQ over 60, and a set of small screwdrivers can adjust a Remington trigger. Throw in a couple of 1/4 inch wrenches and you can adjust a Winchester trigger just as well. Where the Timney really shines is on the old military guns, Mausers, Springfields, etc. Those old two stage triggers work OK, but they don't work for those not trained on them.

earschplitinloudenboomer · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2005, 11:12:21 PM »

Anyone may be able to adjust a Rem. 700 trigger but NO ONE can make a Rem. 700 trigger safe or reliable. Ask the families of the growing number of fatalities.

plateshooter · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2005, 01:25:02 AM »

I put a Timney Sportsman trigger in my Yugo M48 Mauser. It's like a whole new gun on 300 yd plates now.

gwindrider1 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2005, 09:16:06 AM »

I have installed Timney triggers on several of my rifles, and am generally pleased with the results. It's a bit more effort to fit one on to a Mod. 70 with the safety operating off of the bolt, and the sear opening in the bottom of the action needs to be opened up a little, but it has been worth it.

I have yet to be able to adjust the factory trigger to be as crisp as the Timney, although I don't have the most experience at stoning those surfaces as some.

I've heard recently that Timney was having production/customer relation problems. Hope that they get that resolved! It's a good product for the money if you don't have to wait too long to get one!

Lawdog · « **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2005, 09:32:17 AM »

Timney triggers are the best for the price when it comes to adjustable triggers. If you have a rifle that the trigger isn't an adjustable one having a smith do a trigger job on it leaves you with a expensive non-adjustable trigger. Replacing it with a Timnet trigger gives you an excellent adjustable trigger that adds value to your rifle. The first thing I do to a new Ruger rifle is to replace the trigger with a Timney trigger. Now I have improved not only the trigger but the value of the rifle. Lawdog

Mac11700 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2005, 09:54:08 AM »

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Now I have improved not only the trigger but the value of the rifle.

This is the exact same thing I was told by my gundealer...all I had to do if I ever sold my rifle was to include the original factory trigger assembly as well...and I can get my cost back for the trigger and then some...that is another reason I put one of these on...seems like it's a win-win situation for it...

Mac

buffalobob · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2005, 10:38:24 AM »

I hae a Timmney trigger on an FN mauser. Over a period of about fie or so years it got a little too light and I had to readjust it. Takes more time getting the action out of the stock than to actually adjust the trigger.

while99 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2005, 11:09:35 AM »

I installed a Timney trigger on a Remington-manufactured 03-A3 about 30 years ago. It was easy to install and adjust to a crisp pull. One of the tests that I did to help ensure safe functioning was to cock the (empty) rifle, put the safe in the "off' position, and slam the butt on the floor several times to see if the jarring would trip the sear and allow the firing pin to fall. After doing this test about 10 times in a row without failure, I figured the rifle was safe enough to take hunting. I've never had a problem with it and the Timney trigger is a huge improvement over the original military trigger.

Donaldo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2005, 06:11:48 PM »

I have a 243 and a 22-250, both on commercial Mauser actions. I replaced both triggers last year with a Bold and a Timney. I cannot tell which is which. I would have to pull the stocks off to tell which is which. Both break at about 1.5 - 2.0 lbs. No creep, no overtravel. I just did a trigger job on my handi rifle. It is at a measured 1.5 lbs. Just as good as the two adjustables. I also just replaced the trigger on my 223 Savage with the Sharp Shooters trigger. It is very nice, every bit as good as the Timney or Bold. I got the Bold and Timney at the same time from MidwayUSA for about $65 for the two. I had to pay $90 for the SSS trigger. I had already done "home" jobs on the other 3 triggers but could not get them below about 4 lbs. Jewell is probably the best trigger made, but it is mostly used for benchrest. Until you have tried to shoot a rifle with a 2 oz. trigger...... it is something you should try. Just brush the trigger and it goes off. I tried one once... was just starting to put my finger into the trigger gard and brushed the trigger, boom. There is nothing that will improve your shooting ability cheaper than a good adjustable trigger. Either Timney, Bold, SSS or several others. I don't care how good a gunsmith can fiddle a stock trigger, it is not the same as a good adjustable.

drdougrx · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2005, 04:22:17 AM »

Me!

Let's see....

Ruger 77/17
Ruger 77 UL (243)
Ruger 77 UL (270)
Ruger 77 (300win)
Rem 700 BDL SS (375HH)
Rem VLS (243)

I think that covers it.

Don Fischer · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2005, 04:58:06 AM »

I used to own an Anschutz 22mag that I adjusted the trigger to where if you didn't know the gun, you couldn't load a round in the chamber without firing. I loved that trigger but, few others could use it.

The Remimgton factory trigger's on my Remington's work very well and are adjusted right at 3#. I've a 03-A3 built by Paul Jaeger in 1945 that has the old two stage trigger but was smoothed up a great deal when the rifle was built. It'll shoot right around an inch with Rem factory ammo.

The old Savage 110 trigger's were a nightmare, they were a great canidate for a custom trigger. But nobody made one then. Match rifle's and heavy varmit rifles shot from a bench are great canidate's for trigger's under 3#. But on working field type hunting rifle's, I think 3# is about as low as you'd ought to go, without the creap of course. The problem being that out in the field is no place to accidently bump a super light trigger. Found that out with other guy's trying to shoot my old Anschutz 22 mag.

I will say also that the take up and overtravel in my 03-A3 really helps
teach trigger control. As soon as you start the take up, you start putting pressure on your finger muscle's. Then the over travel just build's the pressure until the sear is released. You actually learn to control the trigger with it. I wouldn't go install one on my other rifle's but
for a hunting rifle it's probally a better trigger.

Custom trigger's are nice and definately have their place but most hunting rifle's do finr without them. Old Savage's and Ruger's. Remington and Winchester have fine trigger's excepting the odd bad from the factory one's. Even if someone else screwed them up, unless they took a grinding wheel to the sear, they are easy to re-adjust.

ScoutMan · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2005, 07:51:42 AM »

A buddy and I had a project with two Ruger Mark II compacts in 308. He, being the "handy" one of the two, I had him install a Timney. It was not a drop in though, because he had to do some filing on the Ruger safety to get it all to work safely. He told me he took off about 300 thousands of material off the safety. He did get it to work safely thought, and it now breaks at 2 lbs 3 oz. and is a dream.

Has anyone had this experience with the Timney?

drdougrx · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2005, 03:17:47 PM »

hey Scoutman,

Yeah me...I have a Ruger MKII UL in 243. Hopefully the last I'll ever own. I Too ground the safety too low (or rather the shelf on the timney where the safety slides against to engage) and ruined the damn trigger. Then.....I got this great idea to drill and tap a stainless allen screw into where the safety shelf was. Broke the tap and ruined the trigger in the process.

Soooo...I used the stock ruger trigger, installed the timney springs (replaced the ruger stock springs) and installed the adjustable sear and presto...a compromise. The trigger is about 3lbs, has about 1/8" of creep (take-up really) and a crisp let-off. This is exactly what you do if you order a timney sear for a 77/22 or 77/17.

I like the drop in for the old model 77 so much better.

Regards,

Doug

leadthrower · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2005, 02:00:47 PM »

I recently installed a Timney trigger in my Ruger M77 MKII 270. I had to do some minor filing on the trigger to get the safety to work correctly, but the whole project was much easier then I expected. Just take your time when you start filing because it would be easy to take off to much. I kept the stock spring but used the Timney trigger and sear and it worked out good for me. It sure beats the factory 8+lb pull trigger I did have. I was to the point of getting rid of the gun because of how bad the factory trigger was.
LT

BruceP · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2005, 04:01:35 PM »

I put a timney in my Ruger MK II 257 Roberts as soon a timney started making them. (It was on backorder at Brownells for right at 6 months before I got it.) That was some of the best money I have ever spent.
BruceP

Shorty · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:28:10 AM »

'Put one on my Model 1917 sporter (unaltered magazine). 'Only had to remove a little wood. 'World of difference! :grin:

218Bee · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2005, 12:38:47 AM »

Hands down the best improvement I made to my sporter '96 swede.

No more double hump, just a smooth even pull. Easy to install to boot.

Now to get to work on the new stock.

Rick

minutemen1776 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 12, 2005, 04:22:06 AM »

I'll have to be the voice of dissent here. I installed a Timney on my Ruger M77 Mk 2 a couple of years ago. The installation was difficult, requiring copious filing on the trigger to fit the rifle's safety. Once installed, the trigger itself was pleasantly light and crisp. However, even when adjusted to its maximum weight, the trigger was prone to "slam-fires" on the range. I had more than a few ADs off the bench by merely chambering a round. Though the rifle was more accurate with the Timney, I did not trust it for use in the field, which was the gun's primary intended purpose. I later transitioned to a Remington 700, which has a much better factory trigger than the Ruger. I now shoot a CZ and love the factory set trigger.

Lawdog · « **Reply #26 on:** April 12, 2005, 02:19:46 PM »

Quote from: aldersgater

I'll have to be the voice of dissent here. I installed a Timney on my Ruger M77 Mk 2 a couple of years ago. The installation was difficult, requiring copious filing on the trigger to fit the rifle's safety. Once installed, the trigger itself was pleasantly light and crisp. However, even when adjusted to its maximum weight, the trigger was prone to "slam-fires" on the range. I had more than a few ADs off the bench by merely chambering a round. Though the rifle was more accurate with the Timney, I did not trust it for use in the field, which was the gun's primary intended purpose. I later transitioned to a Remington 700, which has a much better factory trigger than the Ruger. I now shoot a CZ and love the factory set trigger.

The only time I ever heard of anyone having to do that much work on a Timney trigger was when they got the wrong one and was trying to make it fit. Makes one wonder if you got the right model? Lawdog

minutemen1776 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 14, 2005, 04:30:11 AM »

Lawdog, I initially wondered about that, too, once it became obvious that my "drop-in" installation was anything but. Yet, the package was clearly labeled as being a trigger for a Ruger M77 MkII, and the parts fit as they were supposed to other than the top part of the trigger where it meets the safety mechanism. I can't think of what else that trigger might have been intended; even the original M77 has a considerably different trigger and safety. Whatever the case, I was eventually able to fit the trigger to the safety. However, the real problems, in my opinion, were the spring and sear engagement. Just closing the bolt, with so much as touching the trigger, could set off a round. Scary.

Lawdog · « **Reply #28 on:** April 14, 2005, 10:34:42 AM »

Quote from: aldersgater

Lawdog, I initially wondered about that, too, once it became obvious that my "drop-in" installation was anything but. Yet, the package was clearly labeled as being a trigger for a Ruger M77 MkII, and the parts fit as they were supposed to other than the top part of the trigger where it meets the safety mechanism. I can't think of what else that trigger might have been intended; even the original M77 has a considerably different trigger and safety. Whatever the case, I was eventually able to fit the trigger to the safety. However, the real problems, in my opinion, were the spring and sear engagement. Just closing the bolt, with so much as touching the trigger, could set off a round. Scary.

Seeing that it didnt fit as advertised I would have sent it back to Timney before I started to modify it. Timney makes two different triggers for the M77 MKII - left and right handed. It still sounds like you were sent the wrong trigger. I have installed all three types on many Ruger M77s and never had that much trouble. Lawdog