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Offline chipchip

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« on: March 16, 2005, 10:41:29 AM »
Do moly coated bullets tend to be more accurate and how hard is the barrel to clean afterwards

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2005, 11:03:11 AM »
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Do moly coated bullets tend to be more accurate and how hard is the barrel to clean afterwards
I don't think? that there is a absolute in the molly situation.....SOME barrels will shoot the molly bullets better than non coated bullets....and most will shoot molly bullets more accurately for longer periods between cleanings........you just have to SUPER clean the barrel of all copper and get it squeaky clean before you start to shoot molly bullets and then use Kroil and shooters choice mix or similar to clean the molly barrel when the accuracy drops or build up develops........this is with IMPACT PLATED molly bullets....I don't shoot the sprayed bullets and had poor results with home sprayed bullets of a friend who tryed the spray......it seems the smoother the barrel the better the results with molly and it works best for match guns and varmint guns that are shot for longer periods of time between cleanings rather than just hunting type-less shots fired type shooting.........I have seen some guns improve a good bit with molly loads over regular bullets and others shot the same after load tweaking for the molly bullet load.....hth..good luck and good shooting-loading!!

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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2005, 11:50:17 AM »
I probably read all the articles on molly when they first became the rage. I never saw any data that showed where molly bullets were any more accurate than uncoated. All they were able to show was a little more velocity and a lot harder cleaning. I spoke with a Sierra technician the other day and asked him if molly was as popular as it used to be and he said no. To me it doesn't seem to be worth the extra expense and trouble just to be able to shoot a few more rounds between cleanings. KN

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2005, 06:34:21 AM »
I haven't seen any improvement in accuracy because of coated bullets, but I have heard a lot of cussing and swearing over trying to clean them out.

Zachary

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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2005, 05:35:30 PM »
I shot Molly coated bullets in 1 - .17 cal rifle. I need more powder to get the same velosity, it did not improve the accuracy and it did foul the barrel to the point that I lost all accuracy. After 24 hrs. of scrubbing with different soulvents and and a copper brush  I could not get it to shoot. I did get it to shot again by fire lapping the barrel. I will never fire a Molly coated bullet in any of my guns again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :noway:

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2005, 06:52:29 PM »
I don't know if this actually counts as Molly coating...looks like it anyway...but on the Winchester Supreme ammo line with the Ballistic Silver Tips...I have gotten better accuracy...and velocity out of them than anyother bullets I've bought or reloaded lately...in my 25-06...270 Win...and my 30-06...this is for the factory rounds mind you..the velocities are all very consistant...all extremely close if not higher than the stated velocities...and in each producing 1" groups or better...I've cleaned and handlapped all my barrels and clean after the groups start creeping up over 1"...so...maybe I'm one of the lucky ones with all the bad things being said about them...

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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2005, 10:53:53 PM »
The moly from the bullet will work its way into the small pores of the metal in the rifle bore thus eliminating all friction and wear.  It raises the "FPS" velocity of your bullet because of less friction in the bore.  With the moly in the bore and more moly on the bullet the moly actually wears against itself.  There is no metal(bore) contact to the bullet.  I would rather run a few moly bullets thru the bore just to keep the wear down if i shoot this gun alot.   The bore with moly in it will stay cleaner too because its very slippery stuff so most of the dirt left behind gets sucked out behind the bullet.  I have used moly in an anti-seize form in all my rifles and handguns.  I use it on the bolt lugs and on the sears in bolt actions, in semi auto rifles on the bolt, bolt carriers and in the gas systems, in pistols on the barrel bushings, slides and sears, in revolvers on the sears and cylinder support and all moving parts.  Putting moly on the sears can reduce the trigger pull by up to 50% right away and more as it works in too.  When switching to moly bullets you just may have to reduce or adjust your load to bring back the accuracy again because of the bullet speeding up.  MOLY my guns don't leave home without it.     BigBill

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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2005, 09:24:59 AM »
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I haven't seen any improvement in accuracy because of coated bullets, but I have heard a lot of cussing and swearing over trying to clean them out.

Zachary


Very true.  The only improvement I ever saw comparing the Barnes X to their XLC was an improvement in velocity, depending on caliber around a 7% increase(funny though I noticed the improvement more in the larger calibers  :eek:  ).  But with the advent of their TSX line I have noticed that Barnes has cut the number of weights and calibers of XLC bullets.  Which suits me fine as I didn’t care for cleaning the moly either.  Lawdog
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2005, 11:50:13 PM »
I just shot some lead cast moly coated bullets from Bear Creek Supply in my 44mag handgun and there awesome I had no leading in the barrel at all.  Not even any dirt the barrel was squeeky clean too.  I like that!!!!  I may try some in the 444 too the 300 grainers that Mikey talked about.  Don't be too fussy on the cleaning after moly bullets have been shot out the barrel too because i wouldn't remove all the moly.   I would just swab it with a dry patch and thats it since there is no dirt present why wash out some of the wear reducing moly?  Using moly bullets your getting more velocity, plus less wear in the barrel and less cleaning the barrel too its a win/win/win situation once you adjust the load.  I just got into it with the lead cast bullets and i love it!!!!!!!!!  I just may coat my bullets with moly anti-seize and fire lap it in (every so often) to insure I have no barrel wear plus increase the barrel life in my 338win.mag. it could be a blessing with the big bores and in the magnums too.  If your a heavy shooter its really a plus to use moly.   Ya it can be messy at times but there's no WEAR in your barrel???                                                               BigBill