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Offline Dusty Miller

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Why not more discussion of the 460 S&W?
« on: March 15, 2005, 09:37:08 PM »
Hey folks, this is on helluva handgun!  We're talk'n a 200 gr. bullet at 2300 fps here!!  Have you seen that CASE?  This thing could have people asking "454 WHAT?"!!  This gun is to handguns what Emiril is to cooking!!  Whatta ya say guys, lets talk about this gun a bit.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2005, 02:46:02 AM »
I am sure once they hit the market you will hear more than you and I want to. I have my order in for one.

The bad thing is I do not see anyone making reloading dies for them yet. :eek:

 As with the 500 MAG I bought my first set of dies from CH4 tool and die, but I paid $100 for them. They were the only one's at first that made them. I won't make that mistake again. I will just shoot 45L/C and 454 Casull out of it until RCBS or Lee make dies for it.  :D
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2005, 07:04:05 PM »
I don’t have a clue what I would do with a revolver that is physically that big. I guess I fall in the more traditional category with big bores built on SA frames. However there is nothing wrong with buying more toys. Once I fulfill my other wants I may buy one of these big suckers just to have one or maybe wait and find a deal on the used market. It would be cool to work up some loads using a 22 caliber sabot out of one of these things.

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2005, 09:29:35 PM »
I'm really keen on that tricky "progressive" rifling the use in this gun.
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2005, 02:23:33 AM »
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I'm really keen on that tricky "progressive" rifling the use in this gun.


I am curious about the gain twist myself. Sounds like a great concept.  :D
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2005, 09:05:48 PM »
The gain twist isen't anything new.  I'm not sure its really anything more than a marketing ploy but you gotta admit it helps make the 460 one heckuva sexy gun!!
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2005, 02:49:00 AM »
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The gain twist isen't anything new.  I'm not sure its really anything more than a marketing ploy but you gotta admit it helps make the 460 one heckuva sexy gun!!


I know it is not a new thing, but it is new to the handgun world.  :D
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2005, 01:44:25 AM »
IMO,I am not sure anyone will make dies, 45/454 dies should work for the SW 460.


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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2005, 04:06:25 AM »
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IMO,I am not sure anyone will make dies, 45/454 dies should work for the SW 460.


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I am sure they will, a lot of die makers did not come out with 500 MAG dies at first. The only one making them at first was CH4 tool and Die. No one is in a hurry to make the dies until the gun is released. Which the way S&W did the 500 MAG it will be awhile.

Cor-bon is loading up ammo for the 460 already, but they are not die makers. I am sure someone made the dies for them. I am sure Hornady will be making dies as they are loading for the 460 also.  :D
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2005, 09:40:28 PM »
:cb2: Will the deer be any deader than if shot by my .44 mag? And if so, will there be any meat left?
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2005, 01:08:17 AM »
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:cb2: Will the deer be any deader than if shot by my .44 mag? And if so, will there be any meat left?


So what is your point in your post????

No a deer would not be more dead. Dead is dead, but can you shoot a 44 MAG to 250 yards with the same energy and velocity????????

A 30-06 has more energy foot pounds and there is still meat left.

Don't knock what other want just because you don't see the value of the round.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2005, 06:54:08 AM »
:cb2: "So what is your point in my post????" I thought we were having fun talking about guns. Gee Redhawk, what was the point of yours?

Does this mean that people can't say anything unless it agrees with your analysis? Wow. Didn't mean to get on your bad side. Sorry.  :eek:
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2005, 07:34:08 AM »
I think the .460 falls into the category of "One more gun I don't need to shoot".  I have no use for a 454, and the .460 is just more of the same thing.  It's a stretched .454 that operates at 65,000 PSI, which is why it wins the velocity race.  I'm not knocking it, I just don't have any use for it.  Smith wanted to make The Biggest with the .500, now they have The Fastest with the .460.  I think it would make a neat round in a levergun, but I don't need a five-shot hand-held howitzer! :shock:

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2005, 10:14:40 AM »
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:cb2: "So what is your point in my post????" I thought we were having fun talking about guns. Gee Redhawk, what was the point of yours?

Does this mean that people can't say anything unless it agrees with your analysis? Wow. Didn't mean to get on your bad side. Sorry.  :eek:


My point was I don't understand what you meant by your post or maybe I read into it to much.  :oops:  I don't care if you agree or disagree with my analysis, I just did not get your post. It just sounded like you questioned the need for the S&W 460 when a 44 MAG will work.  :?
If I read you wrong, then I apologize  :D
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2005, 10:16:29 AM »
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I think the .460 falls into the category of "One more gun I don't need to shoot".  I have no use for a 454, and the .460 is just more of the same thing.  It's a stretched .454 that operates at 65,000 PSI, which is why it wins the velocity race.  I'm not knocking it, I just don't have any use for it.  Smith wanted to make The Biggest with the .500, now they have The Fastest with the .460.  I think it would make a neat round in a levergun, but I don't need a five-shot hand-held howitzer! :shock:

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The gun is not for everyone, just like the 500 is not for everyone. But it is nice to have the choice.  :D
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2005, 05:05:38 PM »
After reading the ST article about the .460, the thing that impressed me was the accuracy of the gun that was tested.  I wonder if Smith did any extra work to attain that accuracy level, or that's going to be the new standard.  Is their new barrel configuration the key?
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2005, 02:12:56 AM »
The accuracy of the S&W "X" frame revolvers is in large part due to the barrel and shroud design (which is also utilized by Dan Wesson).  I only wish that S&W would sell the barrel wrench and extra barrels so that the owner could switch barrels at home ( like Dan Wesson).  Could you imagine a gun that could shoot 45LC, 454, and 460S&W   --AND--   could be changed from a  4" compensated gun to a 8" gun in a couple minutes.  NOW THAT WOULD BE ONE VERSATILE HANDGUN.  It would be the perfect match for my 445 Supermag which fires 44 Special, 44 Magnum, and 445 Supermag AND DOES have interchangeable barrels.

If only wishing made it so,

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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2005, 01:12:53 AM »
Whether I need to shoot it or not is not the point with me.  If I like it, want it, and can afford it, then whut the hek?!!  Maybe when my current love affair with the 45 Colt in SA revolvers cools a bit then I just might pick up this gun and shoot it just because I like big bore handguns that make a big BOOM and send a heavy cartridge downrange at a respectable clip.  Life is short, I wanna have some MORE fun before I check out.
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2005, 01:28:00 AM »
Good point Dusty Miller.  :D  :-D Just because we can  :)
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2005, 03:23:23 PM »
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I think it would make a neat round in a levergun,

Papajohn


Now there's a thought ... Marlin Guide Gun in .460 S&W. You could load 454's,  in that rascal, and even 45s (although they might tend to feed poorly as I hear 38 specials can in a 357). That dog would hunt, as they say.
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2005, 07:36:55 PM »
These new offerings give us all something new to buy, which is what business is all about.   As to the actual use of these weapons and envisioned capabilities, personally I think it has crossed over that line where I go to a rifle.
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Re: New big revolvers
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2005, 01:27:04 AM »
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These new offerings give us all something new to buy, which is what business is all about.   As to the actual use of these weapons and envisioned capabilities, personally I think it has crossed over that line where I go to a rifle.


One good thing is being able to make that choice, if one wanted to use a handgun or a rifle for longer distance shooting.  :D
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2005, 04:09:58 PM »
Redhawk:

I am at that age where my eyes are doing the deciding for me!
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Re: Pistol vs. Rifle
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2005, 05:12:49 PM »
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Redhawk:

I am at that age where my eyes are doing the deciding for me!


Can argue with that.  :D
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2005, 06:53:25 AM »
This is one darn sexy looking handgun...I may have to save up some money and get one.  Chalk it up to "gotta have the toys" mentality of most men.  Plus all my friends with the 44 mags would be jealous...My 44 Super Blackhawk Hunter would be envious of it's bigger brother.

From the Smith & Wesson Website:
    *Removable, Interchangeable Compensator
    *2330 FPS/200 Grain! The Highest Velocity Revolver in the World
    *2400 ft/lbs! The Most Powerful .45 Caliber Revolver in the World
    *If You Zero its Sights at 200 Yards, You Will Bag Your Buck with a Center Hold. 0-250 Yards with No Hold Over! Just Center It and Fire. The 460XVR will Do The Rest
    *Gain Twist Rifled Barrel for Superb Accuracy
    *Lighter Loads That The 460 Will Also Fire Include .45 Colt and .454 Casull
    *Incredibly Low Perceived Recoil For All Loads
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2005, 09:20:11 PM »
Hey, do you suppose there's ANY chance they'll offer this gun in a 2" snub? :)
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2005, 06:13:15 AM »
Yup, the CCW version...You might lose a little velocity though...

If I were to buy one of those monsters I may have to pony up some real dough for "good" optics...Might have to drop more than $100...
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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2005, 10:06:41 AM »
I don't think there is any plans on a short barrel in the 460.
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2005, 01:16:41 AM »
Don't see why not...S&W dropped a short barreled version of the 500 mag on us...I guess only time will tell.  

Could you see trying to stuff a short barreled 460 into an IWB holster for CCW carry...  :)
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2005, 02:23:36 AM »
WNY_Whitetailer, the 460 is using a gain twist and a shot barrel will not work with a gain twist. Early reports indicate there are no plains.  :D
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