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« on: March 14, 2005, 08:53:53 AM »
The Win. M94 is back in the .25-35 version.  Excellent cartridge for younger/smaller hunters wanting to use this great lever action rifle.  Go to http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/catalog/detail.asp?cat_id=534&type_id=118&cat=003C to check it out.  Now if they would only bring it out in the longer barrel version(24") it would be perfect as long as they keep the octagon barrel.  Lawdog
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 04:01:01 AM »
What is a 25-35 used for? Never heard of it before.

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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 04:22:33 AM »
Small deer and for recoil sensitive shooters, 25-35 and 25-36 same about 1800 to 2000 fps energy about 770 with 87 gr. sp to 845/893 with 117 gr. sp, :D    JIM

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 05:27:39 PM »
For a fleeting moment I entertained notions of ordering one in .38-55 which I see is also offered. I really do have an urge for one altho I have no clue what I need it for. Now if they'd introduce a M92 in .25-20 I'm not sure I could resist.


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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 07:32:25 PM »
they drop the ammo from production then reintroduce the rifle? sounds like Winchester is taking business advice from the Liberal Party of Canada. you sure do want a '92 in .25-20 don't ya, GreyBeard? i keep telling you Americans it would be worth the time and hassle to buy an original one in Canada for less than half what it's worth south of the border. for example, the one i was looking at , and i still hope to buy someday, has a pitted bore, but not too badly and is a great looker, and it was only $450 Cdn. what is that American, about $325?
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2005, 03:34:00 AM »
I thought about the .38-55 too but seeing as I already started on a conversion of a late 70's vintage .30-30 to .38-55 and already had a barrel it seemed a bit of a waste of money.  Having a .250 Savage 99 the .25-35 seemed redundant too.  Now if either Marlin or USRAC ever make the .25-20 again, I'll pony up the bucks for that.  Marlin is offering a .32-20 again and if prosperity finds it's way to me, that would make a great donor rifle for the .25.

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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2005, 11:03:55 AM »
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they drop the ammo from production then reintroduce the rifle? sounds like Winchester is taking business advice from the Liberal Party of Canada. you sure do want a '92 in .25-20 don't ya, GreyBeard? i keep telling you Americans it would be worth the time and hassle to buy an original one in Canada for less than half what it's worth south of the border. for example, the one i was looking at , and i still hope to buy someday, has a pitted bore, but not too badly and is a great looker, and it was only $450 Cdn. what is that American, about $325?


Actually Winchester is loading ammo for the .25-35.  Go to http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog/cfrdetail.aspx?symbol=X2535&cart=MjUtMzUgV2luY2hlc3Rlcg== and check out the load.  Seeing the renewed popularity of the .25-20 & .32-20 it wouldn't surprise me to see a shortened version of the M94 be reintroduced in these two great calibers.  Lawdog
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2005, 12:13:27 PM »
I personally wouldn't buy a M94 in .25-20 but if they make an M92 in it I'm on the list as soon as I hear about it. I'm tempted by the Marlin in .32-20 which would be an easy enough conversion but it's a half magazine gun and I HATE the looks of half magazines.


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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2005, 08:42:34 PM »
So put a full length magazine tube on it if/when you do the rebarrel.  No law says you've got to keep it the same length.  I'm converting a Winchester 94 to .38-55 with a 26" barrel and just got matching magazine tube and a few extra parts to complete the conversion.

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2005, 06:31:23 AM »
In 1957, I went to work at San Quentin Prison in California and I was promptly assigned to a 4 to 12 shift guard tower over the Industrial area.
I was handed a Winchester model 94 in 25-35 and a S&W Model 10.  No one even asked if I knew how to use either one.  Fortunately, I did.

The 25-35 saw a lot of years of service at San Quentin.  In the Big Yard, there was a guard rail about 40 feet above the concrete yard.  The big yard was huge and about 150 yards long and 80 yards wide and adorned with picnic tables and wandering prisoners.

I have seen the 25-35 bullet strike the concrete and leave a cone shaped hole about 2 inches deep and 3 inches wide.  The rail guard usually never actually shot at a prisoner, but he would fire one into the concrete.  The concrete schrapnel would fly in a 360 degree circle ankle high and discourage any brawlers on the ground.

When the AR-15 replaced the old vintage 94s, the 94s, which had Property of San Quentin Prison, stamped on them were sold to a gun shop in San Francisco.  From that gun shop they were sold to collectors.  The 25-35 served well for more years than I know.  I don't know of a human ever being shot with one, but many a loads were launched like grenades into the concrete and disrupted many a bad boys attitude.

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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2005, 03:56:39 PM »
:grin: Intresting story Harold Clark!

 :D Thanks for sharing it with us! Got anymore like it? I am sure people in the Outdoors experince would love to hear them!
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2005, 05:46:26 PM »
did you ever see Johnny Cash?( i'm not kidding)

and to keep it on topic,how common is the .25-35 in original '94's? i'm planning on going to one of the better annual gunshows a omnth from now and taking about $400.  i'll get some reloading gear but i'll probably also by another gun. either a lever gun or another milsurp. yeah, like i need another gun....
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2005, 05:36:12 AM »
Winchester has carried 25-35 ammo for years. It costs a little more than 30WCF, and they only offer the 117 grain loading, but they still do sell it. My dad has an old 1894 in 25-35. We mostly reload ammo for it when we need some to save on the costs, but occasionally we will buy a new box of ammo so we have some new brass to reload. The little sporting goods stores are probably the ones who dropped the 25-35, but winchester has carried since I can remember.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2005, 03:25:05 PM »
I have never had use for a safety on a lever action.  Has anyone had any experience with the tang safety on a model 94?  I gave away a model 94 with the crossbolt safety.  As for the caliber, I like the idea of the 25-35.  I was told that some of the old time shooters in Virginia liked the caliber for shooting fish.  It is still legal to shoot fish in one area of far Southwest Virginia.  Never tried it myself, though.

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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2005, 07:07:30 PM »
Quote from: kevin.303
did you ever see Johnny Cash?( i'm not kidding)

and to keep it on topic,how common is the .25-35 in original '94's? i'm planning on going to one of the better annual gunshows a omnth from now and taking about $400.  i'll get some reloading gear but i'll probably also by another gun. either a lever gun or another milsurp. yeah, like i need another gun....


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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2005, 02:48:36 AM »
i'm still interested in a .25-20 '92, but i'm gonna wait until i get some reloading experiance under my belt before i buy one.
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