Bigfoot sightings.

[bullet maker]

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More strange bigfoot sightings, in rural Okla. :eek:

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[bullet maker]

Hi TM7
    Dunno nothing about the story, myself.---- Heard of one being shot down in Louisanna, two years ago, by a team of bigfoot hunters, hunting over a dead deer. A couple of friends of mine was there when it happened, but they were not given any information about anything, even though they were there helping,-- Kind of ----hush---hush. And of course there`s always the old tales that happened back in the early 20 or 30`s, that one would be killed and then buried, cause people thought they were the devil himself.  But to answer your question, I aint heard of one being shot here in Okla.

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[Don Fischer]

It's true. Big Foot was shot and his body frozen. The frozen body was then loaded on a C130 cargo aircraft and taken to Area 51 in Nevada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bullet maker]

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[1911crazy]

I don't think area 51 is something to joke about I get a very bad feeling in my gut when i think about area 51.  I think there something very bad in area 51,  I think its the dooms day last resort weapon sitting there.  BigBill

[bullet maker]

Hi BigBill
   There is something strange about that place. Last week, TLC channel, had a special about Area 51, and how secretive it was. They had a couple of reporters, trying to sneek closer to the facilities, but they were watched from people wearing black suits with spotting scopes, and carrying high power rifles, flying around in black airplanes, etc. Strange that such a place aint found on any map also. :shock:

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[myronman3]

there are alot of government sites that arent on the maps.  and if they are on maps, they are listed as "impact areas".   although a free society, there are things that shouldnt be public knowlege.   especially with the bleeding heart morons running around today.

[1911crazy]

I seen on TV last week a story about Tesla's ray gun and they said he offered it to the US goverment at the time of WW2 and our goverment turned it down.  The russians got hold of Tesla's plans of it.  While the space shuttle was flying they seen a UFO off in a distance and then they seen a beam of light shot at it.  They believe it was a ray gun shot from earth at it.  The UFO had time to move out of the way and it missed it but it sure has everyone wondering now who shot it?  The guys in the shuttle captured this on film while filming a UFO. I guess were working on this theory of Tesla's ray gun now and maybe in area 51??  We have surpassed the silly old buck rogers space flicks!!!!  I have also read/seen stories on area 51 too and i'm not sure if its true or not but we have captured aliens alive and they are teaching us about how they build and  fly their flying saucers, they are actually helping us.  I'm not sure what is true or not but area 51 is there and were doing some kind of research and developement  there so maybe its us flying/testing the ones were seeing?  I still think there is some sort of bad @ss weapon there much more deadly than we have ever seen.  I think our spy sattlelites can do more than were told too besides seeing numbers on license plates and a baseball in a field too.   Our technology in the spy field sure has been kept a secret too so 007 is old school?  I have also heard about there are more planets  to our solar system too I believe they say were up to 12 now.  I can remember all the fuss made about there being a 10th planet but now its the 12th planet.  Either way the farthest planet out seems to be were the other life form is from who knows?                 BigBill

[darrell8937]

Remember when Area 51 aka Groom Lake didn't exsist. Though you could see it.. Well now we know it exsist. Remember when slick willy(BILLY Boy Clinton) signed an executive order  denying many workers that were dying from strange illnessnes the info on what chemicals they were exposed to. He claimed it was a matter of National security. They all died. Way to go Bill

[inluvwithsara]

I used to work for some eggheads...one was a sarcastic guy...always smileing...one of us asked him if the military was developing "lasers" and such, he said..."No, they perfected the Nuke in the late 70's, and sent everybody home..."Guys, that was like 25 years ago that the nuke was "finalized"...and now we "don't make them anymore"
You could bet that our R&D boys are still comming up with more things to add to the "gee I wish we could disinvent this" list...Bio weapons scare me the most...

[SoloKane]

BulletMaker, I think the shooting you refered to, in Louisiana, was just over the state line from my deer lease in Texas.  I'd love to hear the story as you heard it.  Maybe we could compare notes.

[bullet maker]

Hi SoloKane, welcome aboard

   Now I`m just telling this second hand--, as it was told to me, by my three friends that were there. DG, if your lurking around here help me out on this one.
   Anyhow, DG, John, and I think Rob? were invited to go down to Louisianna, I forgot the exact location, ( The folks down there probably dont want it given out), To kill a Bigfoot. Now the guy that owns the property, has had many experiences with these creatures, and since he is retired, sniper, from the Viet-Nam war, has a lot of stealth to him, and is able to sneak up on deer while hunting deer. So anyhow this is his hunt, and along with another bigfoot research group, ( I think the BFRO, which is Bigfoot Research Organization), headed up a group effort, to kill one of these creatures, and capitilize on the body.
    Anyhow my three amigos, showed up, at the rodevous, and was quit surprized by all the disorganization, people hung over from the night before drinking, one individual, still walking around draging, his rifle in the dirt, and still drunk, well you get the picture.
   Anyhow my three amigos, didnt want to camp by these crazies, so they camp a further back from them. Now as night fell, my three amigos, took their tree stands, and were ready for the fight, most of the other group was to scared to enter the dark woods, evern with the alocohalic spirts, they digested. :oops: . To make a long story short, The sniper , did shoot one, but wouldnt shoot a second shot. The only thing we could come up with was they are taught (one shot, one kill). Will it was not dead and crawled off. My three amigos charged into the dark of the woods, to finish a coupdegra, and the other bigfoot hunters stayed out in the street, wouldn`t enter the dark woods to help. Now one of the amigos, (John) did recover blood and skin tissue. It was given to the property owner and nobody heard anything after that. We dont know why they hide the results, from the DNA.

    There was alot of finger pointing and accusastion, and everybody left with a sour taste in their mouths. The word was, that the people that organized the event, were wanting to track down the wounded animal their selfs, and not share in the profits from finally getting one of the creatures, with the others involved in the hunt.Yes there was several bigfeet seen that night. 4 or 5 came to the aid of their shot comrade, and retreated back in the darkness and woods. It really did happen.

Again I`m only telling what was told to me from my three amigos that was there in the thick of the battle.
Is this basically what you heard SoloKane?

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[SoloKane]

Thanks, BulletMaker, it was good to hear it even second-hand.  I heard a little detail from a friend who knew of the organizers (not friends, just a local who knew what they were doing).

The story I heard is that the organizers had an a ex-marine sniper who was known to be a good shot, and who could handle the fear factor.  They also had thermal gear spotting the bait spot (dead deer).  The spotters saw three thermal images approaching, two of which stopped several hundred yards out, and the largest then stalked into the bait.  The spotters signaled the sniper.  When he saw it, he shot and hit it.

They recovered blood and tissue, but the bigfoot ran off and eventually held up in a thicket.  The organizers had a group that tracked it with thermals, but got scared off when they corned the thing.  They reported that it was raising unholy hell when they got close, and they lost their nerve.  It was a question of entering very thick brush, with this thing (and others who had come to its aid, as you noted) waiting to rip their heads off.  They could not see it for a killing shot without entering the thicket.

That is the short version of the story as I heard it.  Being third-hand or worse, I have no idea whether it's accurate.

I would love to hear the sniper's account of the event.

The area is in northwestern Louisiana, just across the Texas border.  There are areas of unbroken, thick woods that run up from there to Caddo Lake, Sulphur River, and on into southeastern Oklahoma, and southwestern Arkansas.  That whole area, as you know, is thick with reports and activity.  My deer lease is in the area and has had official reports all the way back to the 1940's.

I really enjoy your accounts, by the way, and look forward to hearing more.

[WorkinStiff]

:shock: Great!!...So now you've got a wounded, rogue BF amongst a clan of pissed off Sas's....Folks might start disappearing in that area..I read that in northern BC, it's believed by hunters, that if one shoots a SAS, the males in the clan will go after the shooter...Wonder if someone shooting a BF led to this:www.internationalbigfootsociety.com/html/dsp_report.php?id=1456

[SoloKane]

WorkinStiff, those that claim to know say that the Southern bigfoot exhibits more agression towards humans than the ones up in the Northwest.  I hope that's not true, especially if getting shot makes them worse.  My lease is really close to the area where this event was reported to have happened.

One other thing that is really odd - we are seeing rubbings on cypress trees along the river, that are from about 3 feet high on the trunk up to about 7 feet.  The bark has been rubbed completely smooth, almost like a hog rub.  At the top of these rubs are dinstinct claw marks.  I reported these to Texas Parks & Wildlife, in Austin, expecting them to confirm these scrapes as bear sign (we haven't had a native bear population here for 50 years, but stragglers come over from Louisiana).  The TP&W officer said they were definitely not bear, or panther, or anything they knew of.

I then asked him if TP&W got many bear sighting reports - he said yes and gave me the stats.  I then (half jokingly) asked him if they ever got "Bigfoot" reports.  Without breaking stride, he told me that the bigfoot sightings were one of the most common reports they received from East Texas.  He also said that a group has petitioned TP&W to have Bigfoot protected as an endangered species in Texas.  He told me that the Department was waiting for official evidence to prove its existence.  Otherwise, they had no grounds to declare it endangered.

I asked him repeatedly if he was joking.  He replied that, in his official capacity, he was required to give factual answers to all questions, per the department's best knowledge and available information.

That was unexpected.

I have heard strange howls and whistles at night, while in camp on my lease, but I don't know what's making them.  As long as I don't have to see one again, I'm fine.

[bullet maker]

Yeah I know what you seen SoloKane, I got some trees like that on my property, and surrounding property, as well. It weird, seeing the trees stripped that high up, and the claw marks. :shock: . I mean, if it was only a couple of feet, I would expect maybe it was porcupine, but 7 and 8 ft up the tree? I dunno, diffently strange. I might add, that where these trees exist, I have had encounters, in the past and present.

    To add to your comments, about the southern bigfoot being more aggressive, than the Northwest bigfoot, I dunno, all I knows is their is people everyyear, that go missing. Some never to be heard from again, or found, and some found years later with just some skeleton remains. Makes you wonder.

    And yes you were correct about the bigfoot hunt location. Seems you heard the story about the same as my friends reported it to me, except their was a whole bunch of the hide the animal, and we well retreat it later, going on, which made my friends mad, cause they could have got the animal that night, if the organizers, hadn't order them back and off the property. Yes there was a lot of bigfeet that night, throwing sticks and boulders at them. My amigos, said they couldn't get any back up from the other organizers, or they would have brought the bigfoot out, and the mystery, would have been solved.

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[1911crazy]

Very interesting stories like i said before don't hurt one.

[WorkinStiff]

www.internationalbigfootsociety.com/html/article.php?id=72

[bullet maker]

Very interesting, workinstiff

    People get lost and disappear all the time in the wilderness, and it does make you wonder, especially when they are not new to the woods, and are pretty good at the outdoor scene. Like this gentlement that you talked about. Very misterious indeed. Thanks for the site.

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[D.G.]

It sounds like SoloKanes version was a lot more exciting than the actual event.
True, an animal was shot, the sniper left the scene as soon as the recovery team got to his stand, not to be seen again, loaded his stuff and went back to Anadarko.
Only two animals came to the aid of the wounded one, it was a brush pile, not a thicket. One of the animals tried to flank the three of us, John shot at it, as it dropped on all fours and ran back up the creek away from us, the shot was high. We radioed the organizer and he requested we withdraw and wait until daylight.
The thermal imager did not come into use until after the shot was taken. It was only in use for a short time before the batteries went dead due to the fact that some of the drinkers were playing with it the night before and failed to put in fresh batteries. The whole story is little bit more involved than can be revealed in this limited space.
In retrospect I hate that an animal was wounded and not recovered. It worked out for the best because not everybody was on the same page, after the shot certain segments were already making plans to assure them any material gain to come out of this venture and some of the plans could have resulted in unfortunate circumstances for all involved.

[bullet maker]

Thank`s D.G.

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[Boogeyman]

Ditto on D.G.'s post and I'd like to add the "fix" was (IMHO) definitely in on that evening's events.  Money (or the promise thereof) sure makes folks do strange things while for others it's their "15 minutes of fame" fixation that initiates making a fubar of things.

In retrospect, while we have a very healthy respect for the capabilities of these animals it was one heckuva rush going into woods (after a wounded and probably rather dangerous animal) we'd never before seen in broad daylight much less 0darkhundred.  In my opinion it was NOT the alpha male which was shot because as I went down into the creek (~6' banks X ~15' wide) there was a perfect handprint impression made in the opposite bank (apparently to catch/steady itself) across from where it had skidded off the other side.  This impression was ~8-9" in height ( and closely matched the indentations made on the snout of the deer carcass as it attempted to drag it away just before the "shot") and probably nowhere near the size of one made by a 700+ lb. animal.  As I was attempting to flank the blowdown/brushpile from where the growls were coming is when the other two animals were heard coming in on us from opposite directions.  They were making no pretense at stealth and am not 100% if the one I fired upon was the wounded animal or one of the others as things started to get a bit western at that point.

Among our gravest concerns were the actions/reactions of the other guys in the general area as getting shot in the back was right up there with dealing with these animals.  That's probably why (2 weeks later) the hunt organizer had us back down (sans the groupies) to conduct a search of the entire 1500+ acres.

Back then, we didn't know c'mere from sick'em about thermal imagers but now are certain that a living, breathing, crawling and stumbling wounded animal making it's way up through the tangle out to the top of the 4-5 yr. old clearcut as tracked by the guy with the thermal from the deerstand tower on the ridgetop could NOT become a LOG after the batteries were replaced (and then viewed) by another individual from the "inner circle".

Apparently, the "log" made it out of the area either on it's own or with assistance from companions ergo, the reason we were invited back down and probably why I (we) were constantly birddogged by family members while doing the recon.

Also, I am extremely disappointed with one of our own (group) for sending some of the blood/stomach content samples I recovered that night back down to the hunt organizer against the wishes of the rest of us. Again, it must go back to that "15 minutes of fame" syndrome.

[bullet maker]

Thanks, Boogeyman for your report.

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[SoloKane]

D.G. and Boogeyman, thank you for the first-hand report.  As I mentioned, the version I heard had traveled mouth-to-ear a few times.  I'm not surprised that it grew in the telling.

Still, yall's experience is pretty amazing.

What I can't understand though, is since blood and tissue was found, why didn't someone send it off for analysis?  A few strands of Bison hair makes international news, and these organizers had the real goods!

Any thoughts as to what finally happened to this evidence?

[D.G.]

It was sent for analysis. WE were invited to hunt but sice we were not member of their group we have only received bits and pieces as to the results of the final report. Since it was their show, it is up to them to release any information.
The serious hunter/researchers are not very forthcoming as to information. Not a lot of sharing between researchers and research groups. l

[espuma]

The serious hunter/researchers are not very forthcoming as to information. Not a lot of sharing between researchers and research groups. l

In my limited internet research, it seems to me that there are two groups - those who want to look for it, and those who want to find it.  There is a difference, and I'd guess if you're in the second group it doesn't take long to get tired of those in the first group.

I hope that makes sense - long week at work.  I may have to rewrite that after some dinner & a nap. :grin:

[Teufelwald]

D.G......Mebbe You guys will get invited back to shoot another BF!
Sounds like You guys did the dangerous work....and they got the evidence!

Hah....so this is where You fellas hangout when your not at KBR!

Fearless

[bullet maker]

Mebbe You guys will get invited back to shoot another BF!
Sounds like You guys did the dangerous work....and they got the evidence!

Hah....so this is where You fellas hangout when your not at KBR!

Fearless

what is KBR?,

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[Teufelwald]

Mebbe You guys will get invited back to shoot another BF!
Sounds like You guys did the dangerous work....and they got the evidence!

Hah....so this is where You fellas hangout when your not at KBR!

Fearless

what is KBR?,

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Kiamichi BF research!