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Offline jbtazgrabber

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762/25 OUT OF 223??
« on: February 15, 2005, 03:22:08 PM »
WHAT IS INVOVLED IN MAKING 223 INTO 762/25???DO YOU HAVE TO REAM THE CASES TO GET A BULLET IN??? HOW ABOUT EXTRACTION?ANY PROBLEMS????

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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 04:03:12 PM »
jbazgraber - not much is involved, I think.  You would have to get a 7.62x25mm Trim Die to shorten the cases, cut them to length, chamfer the mouths (inside and out), then size and prime them, and etc.  

It can be done but with the amount of reloadable brass and ammo, a question would be 'why bother'?  The 223 is thicker inside the case than the 7.62x25, and you would lose powder capacity rather than gaining strength.  

I think the 7.62x25 as excellent a cartridge as it is.  Loaded with a softpoint it is excellent in an accurate pistol and would be in a carbine or lever for small game or self defense.  HTH.  Mikey.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2005, 03:56:06 PM »
Late, but will tell a story on myself.
Back in the 1970's, there was no 7.62X25 to buy and I had a Tok. to feed.  SO I converted both .223 and .222 cases.  the .222's didn't need neck reaming (today we'd tend to neck turn them, but back then reaming wasn't looked on as a "sin") but the military .223's did.  Reamed them and all was well. These thicker cases take less powder to reach fucntioning, and less poweder to reach a guestimate of "max".

Twenth years pass (I still have that Tok.) and a CZ comes my way.  Being in a hurry, I grab up some of those Tok. reloads and head to the range.  About the fourth or fith shot, notice an ejected case looks just like a 9mm case.

What had happened was that while those cases fit the old Tok's. chamber just fine and allowed a clean bullet release, this CZ had a tighter chamber neck.  When fired, there was no room for the case neck to expand, so the bullet took the jammed case neck along with it...both bullet and case neck exit the barrel, and the straight body part ejected.

Haven't a clue to how high that drove pressure...but the lessons are: (1) check EACH gun's dimentions, don't trust that if it works in one it will work in the other. (2) Home made cases usually do not have the same internal volume, and loading data has to be adjusted.  (3) If brass is available for a reasonable $, better to buy it than make it.

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2005, 02:46:22 AM »
Ribbonstone pretty much covered what I had to input.
If you do use them you've GOT to re-work your loads, and really you are spending more time and trouble than you are saving by making the cases.

You don't necessarly need a trim die, but it does make it a bit eaiser, a regular trimmer will do it. You can cut the case first with a copper tube cutter and size, then trim on a trimmer and ream the neck or turn the neck. Depending on the brass and your set-up.

If you don't want to buy in bulk to save money, I've got a bunch of once-fired sitting around as well as tons of bulk bought, that we sell pretty in-expensive if you need.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2005, 02:27:20 AM »
I'm new to the 7,62x25 and i purchased sellier & bellot ammo for my few C&R's and a set of reloading dies I also see that MidwayUSA.com has 7,62x25 new empty cases for sale too.  The S&B ammo is very affordable at $9 a box of 50 but i will reload too.  I purchased the LEE Dies for the 7,62x25 there half the price of RCBS dies.                 BigBill

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2005, 02:35:50 PM »
Guys;
  This is the kind of information that we need to be getting out. Just posted a like caution on another board.

Ribbonstone; Thanx for helping keep us safe!

best to you and yours...
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