Author Topic: Kimber 84M Montana (Read 837 times)

HuntingGuy · « **on:** December 29, 2004, 06:08:53 AM »

Hey all,

Will be purchasing the Kimber 84M Montana 7mm-08 next month. It is a great rifle from what I have heard. Those of you with the Montana, how satisfied are you with it? It is a CRF rifle, so how does it do with a single round loaded and none in the magazine?

Any comments would be appreciated!

Thanks

pastorp · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2005, 05:21:14 PM »

HuntingGuy, I am not familure with the kimber rifle personally. Concerning the loading of a single round into a CRF rifle, you must push the round down into the magazine and then close the bolt so the cartridge head can slide up under the extractor. Regards, Byron

Ramrod · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2005, 05:45:21 PM »

Hey! not always. A little contouring on the front face of the extractor will let it slip over the rim as you close the bolt. I have done it with a file on old Mausers, but it is a bit tricky. I'm sure Kimber could work it out, what with the prices they charge.:-D
Congrats HuntingGuy, on a real nice gun!

pastorp · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2005, 04:25:26 PM »

Ramrod, It may be true that you could alter(weaken) the extractor or in some cases just force the extractor over the cartridge case head. However that is not the way the CRF rifles are designed to work. Your sugestion could compromise the reliability and life expectancy of the extractor. In my opinion of course.

If you want a PFR just buy one would be my advice. If you want or need the CRF then use it the way it was designed. Regards, Byron

keyway · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2005, 02:14:40 AM »

I have one in 308 with a Leupold 2.5x8 and I just love the gun. It's light
to carry and shoots great. I have had alot of firearms but this one is my favorite. I took 3 deer with it this year. The gun shoots a 5 shot group at
fifty yards that you can cover with a nickel

leverfan · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2005, 08:52:18 AM »

Quote from: pastorp

Ramrod, It may be true that you could alter(weaken) the extractor or in some cases just force the extractor over the cartridge case head. However that is not the way the CRF rifles are designed to work. Your sugestion could compromise the reliability and life expectancy of the extractor. In my opinion of course.

That's not Winchester's opinion. According to the Winchester manual that came with my CRF Model 70 Classic LT, the claw will slip over an already chambered round. No doubt, this is because of the relief area machined into the extractor. Removing this small amount of metal may very well have weakened it, but the steel extractor is still far stronger than any piece of brass that I'm likely to be loading into my rifle. The extractor works as advertised, and you can close it on a round without damaging anything. Ramrod is correct in saying that this can be done with the old Mausers, as well. It does not detract from the rifle, and it adds to its function.

As for Kimber Montanas, I just nearly bought one myself. If their 260 came with a faster twist, I would have. I still plan to buy one in 308, they appear to be excellent rifles. I haven't looked at the extractor on one close enough to see if it's been relieved so it can close on a chambered round, but this feature, while useful, is still not really needed.

jcurrie · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:47:41 AM »

James Keys, I too am looking @ this rifle in 7-08 but my dealer does not have this and says it will be a while. He however, does have a 308. What grain bullet do you use and how bad is the kick in such a light rifle? Is it hard to hold still on target? jcurrie

keyway · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2005, 01:31:03 PM »

I had a Browning a-bolt in a 7mm08 and started to have a tough time finding premium ammo. I passed on two Kimber's in 7mm08 for that reason and had a local shop order the 308. Totally satisfied with 308.
Started out with 150 grain Remington and 150 grain Winchester Fail safe. During Pa. rifle season I used 168 grain BTHP match.Now I am going to try 180 grain Federal with nosler partitions. As far as the recoil I used to shoot a Browning 12 guage a-bolt slug gun, so I guess recoil really don't seem to bother me. The recoil while shooting off a bench is about the same as my friends Browning a-bolt 7mm mag. I have a bad back and a neck problem but no problems while shooting the Kimber. Personally found that if use a shooting vise such as a Loyman with the lead shot added to the bottom you should not have any problems with recoil. When shooting at game I never even noticed any recoil, but I always have a coat on while hunting. I hope this helps answer your question.