Author Topic: Rem Mountain Rifle safety (Read 814 times)

dscott · « **on:** December 23, 2004, 06:29:07 AM »

I'm currently considering purchasing a Rem 7-08 LSS mt. rifle to be used primarily for deer hunting in N.W Arkansas. As far as viewers of this board are concerned, has Remmington satisfactorily fixed the safety mechanism problems that plauged previous 700 rifles ?

nipprdog · « **Reply #1 on:** December 23, 2004, 06:52:42 AM »

do you mean this problem?

http://www.remington.com/Safety_Modification_Program/remington_safety.asp

gunnut69 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 23, 2004, 07:41:06 AM »

Remington has not altered the function of their triggers or their design other than to change them to allow the bolt to be opened with the safety still engaged.

Graybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** December 23, 2004, 08:28:10 AM »

I have that exact rifle wearing a Bushnell Elite 3200 2-7 scope in Burris Signature rings.

As far as I'm concerned there is/was nothing needing fixed. Yeah I know I've heard the stories too and even had folks post here claiming first hand experience with failures. Maybeso but I seriously doubt anyone posting here has owned more Remington Model 700 and Model 7 rifles than me. Conservatively I'd guess around 100+ of them. Dating from the 60's to brand spanking new made in 2004. Not a one of them has ever done anything except what they are supposed to. I've tried to duplicate what folks say they've done that makes them unsafe and cannot.

Personally I'm convinced you have to monkey with the trigger adjustment to make them unsafe. Folks claim to have new ones not adjusted doing it but I've sure owned a bunch and no problems to date. If it was very common surely the law of averages would have caught up with me by now. I say it's a non problem.

dscott · « **Reply #4 on:** December 23, 2004, 08:37:47 AM »

I'm referring to the safety issues that were apparently the basis for law suits on previous model 700's. Apprently some people have been killed or injuried in the past from the guns firing without pulling the trigger ; some apparently fired just as the safety was moved to the fire position. And this supposedly happened more frequently if the trigger had been squeezed before moving the safety to the fire position.

Graybeard · « **Reply #5 on:** December 23, 2004, 09:06:13 AM »

As I said I am convinced the ONLY way it can or ever has happened is when someone who didn't know what they were doing changed the factory sear setting and then pulled the trigger when the gun was on safe and then pushed off the safety.

That's not the fault of the gun. Remington never admitted to a faulty design to my knowledge and my experience with them from all time periods supports that postition.

dscott · « **Reply #6 on:** December 23, 2004, 09:14:20 AM »

Then it's settled--LSS 7-08 it will be. I'll commence the romancing of the wife right away----my birhtday is in January.

Thanks to all for the imput.

Siskiyou · « **Reply #7 on:** December 23, 2004, 10:06:27 AM »

I recall many of those accidents were the results of miss handling the firearm. Remember people sue for their errors. There are a lot of "Bottom Feeder Lawyers," that will run with such a case. I suspect that the fact a firearm of any kind is involved raises the odds of winning against a firearm manufacture over 50%.

As a former Hunter-Safety Instructor the errors made in gun handling were used as instructional tools in classes. Example: Having a loaded rifle laying in the seat of a vehicle. (violation of the law and safe handling rules) Dragging the rifle across the seat while it is pointing a person on the drivers side.(Violation of safe handling rules.)(The dragging motion would be enough to release the Remington safety, and the safety on many other makes.) Example the British Enfield Mark 4.

longwinters · « **Reply #8 on:** December 23, 2004, 12:09:25 PM »

I don't know anything about the "safety failures" but I do know my son has an LSS Mountain Rifle in 7m-08 that has had a trigger job (by a gunsmith) and he has not had any problems.

Long