Mossberg Rifle at Wal-Mart

[johnboyncsu]

Does anyone know anything about the Mossberg atr 100 that Wal-mart now carries.  It is a bolt action, synthetic stock, and available in 270 & 3006.  I believe it was priced at $244.  I've been tempted just to get one to try out for that price.

There was nothing about the rifle on the Mossberg website and I read on another message board that the rifles are only being sold at Wal-Mart for now.

[ebonitekid767]

i emailed customer service at mossberg a month or 2 ago regarding that rifle..and was pretty much told that the .270 and 30-06 is going to be their only offerings and she sent me some specs for it but they are gone.so if you want specs for it just email mossbergs customer service and ask they were very good about it.

[johnboyncsu]

I just checked the Mossberg website again and found a little bit of info about this rifle.  Here is the link if anyone is interested.

http://www.mossberg.com/atr/100_atr.htm

[Graybeard]

Personally if I were looking for a bargain price rifle I'd much rather buy it than either the Savage or the Rem 710. All the Mossberg rifles I've owned over the years have been well made and accurate. And this one looks much nicer than those ugly Savage guns or the even uglier Rem 710.

[Donaldo]

Greybeard,
I resemble that remark about the Savage.  :-)  If you can just get past that unusual "nut" on the barrel I think you will find that the new Savages are very well engineered.  For one thing, you don't need a 'smith to change barrels, it is a DIY deal.  Another thing is that not only can you change barrels you can change the bolt head diameter yourself.  Go from say a 223 to a 243 case head.....simple job.  Plus they have a round receiver just like your beloved Rem...Remm....Remmmbiinggg.   What ever they are called.  AND another plus is that super accu trigger.  Comes stock on the rifle.  Peculiar, strange looking.....naw.... you just don't appreciate good engineering.

[Graybeard]

If you can just get past that unusual "nut" on the barrel

But I can't.  :eek:

Peculiar, strange looking.....naw.... you just don't appreciate good engineering.

Yup that's prolly it.  :lol:

[Donaldo]

Maybe its the "nut" behind the barrel

[lilabner]

I've done a web search for prices, reports etc. and the 710 does not come out looking good at any price. The lowest price available among the first line big 3 US rifles (leaving out the new Mossberg) isn't the Savage, it's the 700ADL synthetic, which is an OK rifle. I have a 700 Classic in 7mmMag and it is a good shooter.  But, the ADL would require a trigger job to satisfy me (my bolt guns have all required trigger work) and the new Savage trigger is good to go out of the box. People get excited about scope quality but I'd rather have a decent scope and a great trigger than a great scope and a so so trigger.

[mountainview]

Adding my 2 deneiros,

1) Lil Ab makes a good point about triggers. I have found this to be one of the most significant factors affecting my shooting.

2) Anyone been able to try out the Mossberg and comment on the trigger that comes on it?

[MGMorden]

And this one looks much nicer than those ugly Savage guns or the even uglier Rem 710.

Have you actually looked at one of these things?  :wink:   I've never seen a rifle quite so ugly.  The whole stock - triggerguard, swivel studs and all, is molded together out of this cheap looking plastic.  You can actually see mold lines down the middle of the stock!  The bolt handle looks "awkward".  Best way I can think to describe it.  It has a barrel nut like the one on the Savages, and the finish on it is obviously sprayed on, but more than that it looks powdery, like you could brush it off with your thumb.  Regarding looks I'd take a Savage over this gun in a heartbeat.  Performance wise it might be fine; that's something I can't evaluate from the store displays I've seen.  The Rem 710 is ugly I'll admit, though I think it'd be much less so if they just had gone with a black stock instead of that gray color.

On a slightly off topic note, if anyone is interested in a good looking (non-bolt action) and decent shooting rifle, the H&R Ultra-Hunters are about this same price, and they come with laminate stocks.  If ~$250 is all you can afford I'd go with one of those (or a Winchester M94) before the Mossberg.  Of course personally I'd do just about anything to get a wood-stocked gun over a synthetic, so that'll affect my judgement.  :lol:

[Graybeard]

What gun are you talking about? It sounds like the R710 to me. A rifle I already said was the ugliest of them. So why are you quoting me and then asking if I've seen one? I'm confused. :roll:

[MGMorden]

What gun are you talking about? It sounds like the R710 to me. A rifle I already said was the ugliest of them. So why are you quoting me and then asking if I've seen one? I'm confused. :roll:

I was asking if you had seen the ATR-100, which is what I was talking about in my description.  My intention was to convey that IMHO the ATR-100 is far uglier than either of the two guns mentioned in your quote.  Sorry for the confusion.

[Donaldo]

I took a look at the Mossberg at WWorld.  Didn't get it out of the case but did observe it closely.  It looks like a poor copy of a Savage.  It has a barrel nut but it is smooth not like the Savage nut.  The bolt reminds me of a savage.  The stock is a piece of junk, or at least looks that way.  Moulded in trigger guard.  But the '06 was only $244.  Just wonder how it shoots?  Anyone tried one yet.  Something just makes me think the darn thing will probably shoot pretty good.  That seems to be the way things go now.  Looks like he!!, shoots the eyes out of a fly,.....Looks purtty....2" at 100 is considered good.  Beats me  :roll:

[Graybeard]

OK, no I've not seen the actual gun only the photos on their site. Just looking at them it looks pretty nice. But in person is often not the same as a photo.

[HogFan]

Talking about the synthetic stock with the sling mounts molded into the stock, on the website their is a wooden stocked one that is the same way. I've seen and handled one, and they just feel cheap. Not Savage cheap, but worst.

HogFan

[superhornet]

Price seemed right so I bought one.  Looked at the one in the display case at Wal-mart and it (barrel) was marked with all the standard warnings, logos and caliber .    Took a new one home and on examination found that there are no markings on it at all with the exception of a serial number on the port side of the receiver. It is in .270 Winchester.   I think it got out of the factory before it was finished.  Sent a mail to Mossberg, but no response yet.    It appears to have a headspace set up like the Savage, but no spanner slots for the locknut, it is smooth.  Magazine follower is stamped metal and flimsy, but works smoothly.   Bolt smooth, trigger is crisp and looks like it is adjustable.  Barrel is free floated.  Verified it was 270, took it to the range with factory Win 130 and 150 grain...Gave it a good cleaning and commenced sight in with 150 grain Power Points.   Got sighted in and commenced group shooting with good cool off between groups and clean.  Best group
.700 with four of five touching.   Scope went bad so did not shoot the 130 grain.    Still waiting on word from Mossberg..it did shoot, but of course you get what you pay for.

[Donaldo]

Yep, just like I said......looks like he!!........shoots purty good.  Have you noticed that most all of the new rifles shoot pretty darn good regardless of price.  With a few exceptions of course.  Being pretty sure don't guarantee it will shoot good.  Just makes it more lovable.   :lol:

[MGMorden]

Talking about the synthetic stock with the sling mounts molded into the stock, on the website their is a wooden stocked one that is the same way.

If you look at their site they list that as a "walnut wood dip".  It's a synthetic stock that's got a false walnut woodgrain applied to it (just like a cammo pattern, but woodgrain instead).

If it was real wood I'd get one (the majority of my gripes are with the cheaply molded plastic stock), but synthetic rifles in my collection are few and far between (actually, I have no synthetic rifles.  just 2 shotguns that are synthetic only because I use them exclusively for duck hunting).

[Donaldo]

I just know that Mr. Graybeard is going to love this one.     I just heard that Pac Nor is going to start using a barrel nut on their replacement barrels for Remgt...Remmmm....Remmmm.  Just can't say that word.  Seems like now you can order a fully chambered barrel from them and fit it your self with the new self adjusting beautifully engineered wonder of all wonders barrel nut.  Also for some other manufacturer besides Savage but can't remember which.  I remembered the Remmmm...Remmm...you know, because of the way Mr. Graybeard likes them so much.    :wink:

[1dahunter]

I bought the mossberg 100ATR in .270 last august and used it this past deer season, the damn thing is a tack driver :shock:  super accurate and for the money the only way to go! JMHO Jimmy

[5.56er]

The wholesale price what the dealers get is just over 220 dollars So a reasonable FFL Dealer can get them for around 250 or 260 dollars. They are in everything from 223 to 300 Winchester Magnum. It looks like a Savage 110 Action. I am going to get one soo I will let you know how good they shoot when I get it

[1911crazy]

Well my old mossberg bolt action in 30-06 from 1972 has performed really well all these 30+ years.  It still shoots the same nickle sized groups all these many years too(after reloading for it).  Now with mossberg's new bolt action rifle model 100 ATR(all terrain rifle) I heard its made by the same people in Texas who manufacture the maverick shotgun so its made in the USA.  From what i have read here and on other sites these new rifles can shoot good too as well as being only $244 at Walmart.  I'm thinking about retiring my older mossberg because its a discontinued gun and it still looks like new and its collectable now, i hate to take it in the woods hunting.  I just may replace it with a new mossberg model 100 ATR!!!!!!                                BigBill

I've seen the prettiest & expensive guns that couldn't hit crap so give me the cheapest no frills gun there is and i'm sure it will shoot good too.  So even the ugliest duckling can turn out to be a swan.  My old mossberg isn't going to win any awards for being pretty but she can hit the ten ring all day long and thats what its all about if the new model 100 ATR can do the samething then history does repeat itself!!!!!!  

I emailed mossberg about making a youth gun in 7.62x39 too.  There has been a lot of guys looking for 7.62x39 youth guns for their kids that are affordable too. I also asked them if they could make two more in 6,5 swede and 7mm mauser with 24" or 26" barrels too.  If they make "I" will buy it!!!!  And i'm sure others would too.

I'm not fond of remingtons since there having quality problems since '94.  My last new 700 in 338win.mag. just isn't worth the $675+ i paid for it.  I also went thru two new 1100 12ga shotguns too they jammed right out of the box, one at home and the second one in the store.  After i couldn't get my money back the third one that did work went right to the pawn shop.  And i never will buy another new remington product again.  The funny part is i had an older 1100 remington shotgun in 20ga that was awesome for many years before the new 12ga.  My next shotgun will be a russian izhmash its designed after the AK47 so the quality,  reliability and dependability is there already. :eek:

The bottomline is don't let the looks fool you, it may feel cheap, it may look cheap, but can she shoot?  Thats the bottomline if it can shoot it rules out all the negativity about cheapness doesn't it?  Its all about what it prints on the paper at 100yds!!!!!!  Never judge a book by the cover its whats on the inside that counts and women are just like guns.  I've seen the best looking women be pitbulls in the morning too and they couldn't even boil water.

[1911crazy]

Well after looking at it at Walmart it looks dam good to me.  I like the synthetic stocks for hunting in monsoons which always seems to happen when i'm hunting at least for a few days on most trips.  I don't like my natural wood stocks out in the heavy rain.  It was quite a few dollars less than the remingtons next to it and a lot cheaper than the savage rifles are too.  So with me being very frugal most of the time(unless its a good meal while dining out) the new mossberg bolt action model 100 ATR sure has a lot going for it.  I'm going to have to get one and try it soon.  BigBill

The sling loops are molded into the stock thats good have you ever had one of the screwed in types pull out while carring the gun on your shoulder??  I have so they have elimated that from happening.  With the trigger guard molded in too its a mirror image of the remington.  I think it will fill the bill and do the job very well.

[Don Fischer]

It's begining to sound like the only thing Savage and Mossberg do right is make rifle's that shoot really well. They must be Blue Hen's! Oh, in the bird dog world, a Blue Hen is a female you could breed to a fence post and still get good pup's.

Isn't it frustrating to spend $800 on a new rifle then have some guy with a $250 rifle come along and shoot your pant's off??

[MGMorden]

I've seen the best looking women be pitbulls in the morning too and they couldn't even boil water.

I can see how she'd turn into a pitbull pretty quick if you're picking on here because she can't cook .

[barronj]

I have one of the new Mossberg rifles in .270. Its a great shooter, a little rough around the edges, but definitely worth the money. Mine will shoot half inch groups at 100 yards........I was definitely surprised.

[goalie]

I just wanted to thank you guys for helping me decide to get an Mossy ATR in .270 for this year's deer season.  I usually muzzle-load, but will be in Hawaii during the blackpowder season this year, leaving me to hunt rifle for the first time in a looong time.  I have a Remington 700 in .375 H&H, but this thread made me decide to go out and  get the .270 and just switch the Leopold scope over to it.  

It may not be pretty, but the darn thing shoots.  1-1.5" at 100 yards with factory fodder, and I expect when I pick up dies and reload for it, the groups will shrink some.  Plus, I don't have to worry about scratching it up when I drag it into a deer stand on a rope.  

 :grin:

[Ranger J]

Now let’s just wait a minute.  I have a pitbull named Fluffy and she is always cheerful and happy to see me in the morning. Something I can’t always say for my wife and teenage daughter who are not exactly morning people.
RJ

[myarmor]

I've been following the ATR sence it came out and I thought you guys might like this:
http://www.gunweek.com/1010%20issue/feature1010.html

[Big Tom]

All I know is my new Savage/Stevens 7mm08 shot a 0.244" 4 shot group withing the 1st 10 rounds through the "ugly" barrel. It cost me $263 incl tax.

I don't mind that kind of ugly. :-D