Wanting a rifle with Iron sights.

[Mr.Niceguy]

I am interested in getting a bolt action rifle for range and target practice.  I am only asking that this rifle be equipped with iron sights, fixed magizne chambered in .308.  This rifle would serve as a aide in working on rifle marksmanship.  I don't hunt at the current time, may plan to later after college.  So if any of you fellas could suggest a rifle meeting the above criteria I would greatly appreciate it.  Why Iron sights you may ask? I have been blessed with VERY health eyes (eating carrots on a daily basis as well) Thanks

Oh I am considering the CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62X39 should nothing else catch my interest.

[Buford]

I have one, and love it - CZ makes a great product.  They also make one is .308, also.  Enjoy your purchase!

[Questor]

This is also a good time to mention dangerous game rifles, perhaps a Winchester Safari magnum in 375 H&H. I'm only half kidding.

[Questor]

Oh shucks. I may as well come out of the closet.  My iron sighted target, plinking, and buffalo rifle is a 375H&H Remington so it's a bit near and dear to my heart.

[Graybeard]

Look at the Remington Model 700 ADL. I think it might be exactly what you're looking for.

[Questor]

One thing I like about the iron-sighted Remingtons is that you can put a scope-base mounted peep sight on it after easily removing the rear sight.

[Lawdog]

Mr.Niceguy,

There are still a few companies that put iron sights on their rifles.  If accuracy is your main issue then go with a Savage M11G - http://www.savagearms.com/11g.htm - the most accurate out of the box rifle you can buy.  Lawdog
 

[targshooter]

For informal target shooting I have a Ruger 77RSI in .308. It wears a New England Custom Gun (NECG) peep sight (about $80). The 77RSI also has auxiliary rifle sights that come on the rifle. No drilling and tapping needed, as the NECG peep fits into the scope ring base integral to the rifle's receiver. The rifle is also supplied with scope rings, in case you get interested in scope applications later. The 77RSI has a full length stock and is very nicely balanced for target shooting (and hunting as well). Following is Ruger's site.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/
Enjoy the shopping and good luck.
Regards

[Greybeard]

If accuracy is your main issue then go with a Savage M11G - http://www.savagearms.com/11g.htm - the most accurate out of the box rifle you can buy. Lawdog

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You really crack me up some times with these jokes Lawdog. At least they're good for a laugh.   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[Lawdog]

Greybeard,

I am glad to see you enjoy the printed truth so much.   :-D  :-D  :-D   I will endeavor to keep supplying you with this type of enjoyment every chance I get.   :wink:  :wink:   At least Savage does what it is supposed to do at a price that all can afford(unlike a few of the other firearm manufactures that I won't mention here).  Lawdog
 

[Mr.Niceguy]

I may just pick up the 527.  A local CZ auth. dealer just sold his last 550 Lux, and will be checking around for another Lux in .308.   This place is located in a REALLY bad part of town.  
Is there a significant difference between the Remington Model 7 and the 700 series?  The model 7 seems like another choice.  On the topic of Remingtons, are the factory sights accurate or is an aftermarket set more practical.
Thanks

[Graybeard]

One for sure truth Lawdog. Me and you ain't never gonna agree on Remingtons and Savages.  :-D

There are but minor differences in the Model 7 and Model 700 short action. Nothing of real significance. For iron sights the Remington sights do fine. Easily adjustable and stay put once set. No iron sights short of a Globe front and rear peep are gonna be really of target quality. I guess it all depends on what you're wanting or needing from a gun.

If you think you're gonna be shooting ragged one hole groups at 100 yards with it you'd best get a scope. If doing same at 25 and maybe 50 yards is your goal and you have good eye sight then factory irons might get you there.

[lilabner]

At anything other than shorter ranges, iron sights have limitations. The front bead tends to cover the target. If you are serious about target shooting and don't want to shoot only at short ranges, I think your best bet is a good peep sight and a globe front. Much easier to shoot at distant targets. If you decide to go for that combination, buy a rifle without sights - costs less and it will be easier to install the sights.

[Mr_Christopher]

Why doesn't CZ make a 527 series gun with tangent sights, like those on their 452 rimfires?  

If you haven't seen them, CZ makes awesome iron tangent sights on their 452 series.  They may be the only manufacturer anywhere who makes these.  Well except for the Norinco CZ copy...

I cannot figure out why they don't use the same sights on some of their centerfire guns (especially the FS and Carbine) that have iron sights.

Chris

[Big Paulie]

I do not think that the Remington Model 7 will fill your bill.  It is designed and sold as a light weight carbine, with a lighweight short 20" barrell, and is butt heavy.  On sandbags, they generally get 1.5 inch groups, and sometimes 2 inch groups.    This is a great rifle for hunting, especially in woods and mixed fields, but it is not a great rifle for target shooting or marksmanship with open sights.  Go with a full size rifle.

Big Paulie

[Questor]

The Savages are popular with my local rifle cranks. They get very good results with them and make no excuses for them. These are guys that  pay big bucks for custom rifles, but also buy Savages and find they are truly excellent values for the money. When guys who can have most any rifle they want say they're good, I believe them.  These are guys that will put a $1200 scope and $100 base and rings on a $500 Savage. Frequently they add a special purpose stock, like an ultra heavy stock for varmint shooting.