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Offline sport240

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Another half-cock/safety question (BLR '81)
« on: November 17, 2004, 05:44:28 PM »
I posted a similar topic awhile back where we all discussed the issues regarding the safety of the half-cock or un-cocked hammer on a loaded chamber.  I think it is fair to say that the hammer down on an empty chamber was the safest we could get, but a lot of you seemed to agree that the half-cock position on a loaded chamber did'nt pose a problem.

One hammer position for which it was unanimously unsafe was the de-cocked position on a loaded chamber in reason of the risk of punching the firing pin forward in the event of a drop/jarr.

Now this is all information that I alredy knew and was comfortable with.  It is also part of what I was taught "way-back-when" I took a gun safety course.

Then I buy a BLR '81........and read the instruction manual to find this:

"SAFETY,

     1) DROPPED OR FIRED POSITION,  CAUTION,
     The BLR does not have a full lenghth firing pin.  With a cartridge in the chamber and the hammer in the lowered position, the firing pin will not be resting against the primer of the cartridge.  The safe way to carry the BLR with a round in the chamber is with the hammer fully forward or dropped position.

(a little further)

     2) HALF COCK.  THIS RIFLE'S HALF COCK NOTCH IS SIMPLY A HAMMER POSITION THAT may catch the hammer that slips from your thumb while cocking (providing the trigger is not depressed).  It should not be taken as an assurance it will be caught all the time.  No guarantee can be made the the half-cock notch will prevent the hammer from striking the firing pin.  "

So what is it????????

Half-cock good for Winnies? Savages? Maybe? But not BLR's?

Just when you think that you've got something safe going on with the half-cock position, Browning comes along and says that it does'nt apply to them?  It is a good thing I read the manual for the BLR since I would probably, at some point, carried half-cock with a round under the hammer thinking that I was safe,........... but I would have been wrong?

Your views?

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Another half-cock/safety question (BLR '81)
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2004, 11:57:07 AM »
LOL.  It get confusing because of the liabilities the gun companies face.

The BLR as you read has a short firing pin wich cant reach the cartrige in the chamber. So its safe they say wth the hammer down on a loaded round. The Rossi, Winchester & Marlin all have full length firing pins. If you push the rear of the pin in any of these 3 guns flush with the bolt the front of the pin will be sticking out the other end. The Browning wont.

I have a BLR 81, one of my favorte rifles, hope you like yours.
Anyway, I too found this perplexing when I first got it. I tried doing it their way but in tme found myself using half cock like a normal lever gun.
I just dont like putting it all the way down. Just dont feel right.

I cant say you  should do the same.  Use your best judgement.  Most of my guns only have a half cock for a saftey & it has become second nature.

The new BLR's are even fancier, they have a hammer that flips over somehow blocking it from reaching the firing pin. Havent seen one n person tho.
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Another half-cock/safety question (BLR '81)
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2004, 08:07:28 AM »
The new BLR has a hammer that folds forward at half cock , which I think is very handy and very safe. Sure beats the cross bolt safety of some of the other levers.
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