Maybe this is why there are "no bodies".....

[WorkinStiff]

www.internationalbigfootsociety.com/html/dsp_report.php?id=1498

[Patriot_1776]

www.internationalbigfootsociety.com/html/dsp_report.php?id=1498

Stiff, you forgot the last part for the URL link... I re-typed it so it won't be problematic for other viewers.

What I don't understand, is why didn't this guy IMMEDIATELY report this sighting and a have group search the same day?  I mean, of course this place was subject to flooding, and of course it occured at this time. :evil:   Whatever, I'm just surprised at the cirumstances that took place at that particular time.  Or, maybe them Bigfeet just really know how to cover their tracks?  Patriot

[twodollarpistol]

Guys, This is exactly the kind of report that makes it so hard for me to believe in big foot. Every single time there is a report of evidence that would set the world on its ear, there is ALWAYS a "but" or an "except." Always some lame excuse that totally destroys the credibility of the report and the reporter. I would submit that if bigfoots made a habit of covering there dead with piles of rocks, should be pretty easy to find at least one pile. This is in no way an attempt to attack anyone on this forum, or belittle others beliefs. Just an observation on my part for your consideration.

[huntsman]

First off, I am inclined to believe that some type of large hominid exists in N. America based on a preponderance of tracks which have withstood repeated scientific scrutiny and corroborated and reliable testimony from many individuals with impeccable integrity. However, I would not lend much, if any, credibility to this story without some other corroborating evidence. The details of the story are not only awfully incredible and totally unsubstantiated by physical evidence, they are a "humanistic" departure from the norm, which suggests an element of human invention. If the implications of this account were true, it would indeed increase substantially the chance that someone, somewhere, would have discovered some unusual and unexplained rock piles that were not washed away so easily in a flood, or that bigfoot remains would have at some time in the past been deposited somewhere noticeable by floodwaters if floodplain burial is a habit of these creatures. There are too many suspicious and precarious threads to this story to give it credence without some solid physical evidence.

[smoky]

There is absolutely no way that if Bigfoot did exist, that in the past 100 years, at least 1 carcass, either from a car collision or shooting one, etc,  would have surfaced proving their existance.

I can tell you without a doubt if I ever saw one, My 7 mag would speak and I would keep the carcass in sight while I informed the proper authorities.

I'm sorry, but with all the bigfoot believers out there looking for them, the most credible bit of proof (an actual specimen) would have turned up by now.

Smoky

[Patriot_1776]

Smoky wrote:

There is absolutely no way that if Bigfoot did exist, that in the past 100 years, at least 1 carcass, either from a car collision or shooting one, etc, would have surfaced proving their existance.

I can tell you without a doubt if I ever saw one, My 7 mag would speak and I would keep the carcass in sight while I informed the proper authorities.

I'm sorry, but with all the bigfoot believers out there looking for them, the most credible bit of proof (an actual specimen) would have turned up by now

I most certainly agree.  My other post was merely a demonstration of the possible idiocy surrounding these so-called "sightings."  Please, no offense to anyone here who has heard or seen strange figures while out in the wild.  I meant only these particular sightings, where the sighter has failed to react properly and immediatley tell of his findings to have it checked out the same day.  What really gets me supremely skeptical, is there is always something that involves obliteration, or even the hiding of possible physical evidence that would help solve these "findings", hence proving their reality.  Anyway, until a Bigfoot body is brought into exhibition after it is either shot, hit by car, or just plain found, I will remain on guard whether or not to accept the word of someone else, who may just be trying to achieve notoriety by fact of strange occurances.  BTW, I read a news article the other day about a new species of ape that has been discovered.  It said they can grow to 6'5" in height, weight up to 230lbs, or something. Here is the article: http://dsc.discovery.com/news/afp/20041004/giantape.html

  So that further muddies the water of the credibility of these unconfirmed sightings.  I woud think if something like this could go undetected for so long, what else may be out there?  Just my .02 worth, but what do you think?  Patriot

[Loader 3009]

H-m-m-m-m-m-m, 6' 5", 230 lb., black face.....wonder how they are on free throws?

Seriously, an ape that tall and weighing only 180 to 230 pounds is one skinny monkey.

[bullet maker]

http://www.tooclosetothemirror.com/

There is a picture of a bigfoot found by the author of the book (Smokey Crabtree). The Bigfoot was found by Mr Crabtree, and it is total intack, except for the head.

I have personally talked to Mr Crabtree, and been to his home town of Foulk Arkansas. He is a genuine down home country man, that was raised in these parts of Arkansas. (the Legend of Boggy Creek), which became a cult classic horrow film, that was filmed back about 1971? was filmed on his property. His son was the one that saw Bigfoot, and several of the towns people also saw him (the bigfoot). You can still rent the movie at the video places around you town. Just ask for the title (Legend of Boggy Creek). and you will see the locals that are actually protray them selfes in the movie.
   But the remains of a headless Bigfoot is in one of hims books, that show a better picture of the beast.
   So they can be found, but its almost imposible too.

bullet maker

[quickdtoo]

Here's an interesting article...

http://www.thebulletin.com/archives/2002/july/bigfoot.htm

And Grover Krantz's opinion of the skeletal remains of the Fouke Monster.

...The final skeletal case involves a classic case in Hominology, that of "Smokey" Crabtree and the Fouke Monster from Fouke, Arkansas. In this case Krantz reports he traveled to Fouke in 1994 to view the reported skeleton (though not necessarily claimed to be of a Bigfoot type creature). His evaluation deemed this skeleton to be of a large lion. Krantz also deals with reports from around the world based on his first hand (through translators) interviews as well as meetings with internationally Hominologists in Russia, China, and elsewhere.

http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/reviews/evidence.htm

[bullet maker]

Grover Krantz will reject any and all evidence, that he hasn`t found first. I have known of an individual, who sent him some blood samples, after shooting a bigfoot. The bigfoot got away, but blood tissue and stomach contents, were collected. All was sent to Grover Krantz, at his request, and as of todate, they haven`t heard a word from him. They called him and sent e-mails, and now he says he knows nothing about it. Huummm. :twisted:

  But the remains that Crabtree has is real. There is a video out that they have transported the creature to various, taxidermist, and doctors etc . and none of them can tell what type of animal it was. The DNA, test come back that it was of the monkey ( Gorilla, and Orangutang) type but not exclusive of the Gorilla, and Orangutang. Rather it was related, but not the same species

bullet maker

[1911crazy]

I was loggin in our stste forest deep in the forest and i found rock piles like graves the local ranger thought it was indian graves but its very old on the side of a ridge this is the place i seen strange things happening like something moving thru the air when i was cutting trees there.  I just did my job and left but there was so much uncut felled trees there it looks like the other logger bailed out of there ahead of me so i got the job.  You know me just give me a 24" or 30"  100cc chainsaw and i ain't afraid of nothing i'll make a unicycle out of anything near me in seconds I can mame that tune.  But nothing ever came near me it just stayed in that one spot crossing the road back and forth each day.   BigBill

[1911crazy]

There is absolutely no way that if Bigfoot did exist, that in the past 100 years, at least 1 carcass, either from a car collision or shooting one, etc,  would have surfaced proving their existance.

I can tell you without a doubt if I ever saw one, My 7 mag would speak and I would keep the carcass in sight while I informed the proper authorities.

I'm sorry, but with all the bigfoot believers out there looking for them, the most credible bit of proof (an actual specimen) would have turned up by now.

Smoky

How often do you see a mountainlion carcass and there out there?  Bigfoot have been hit by cars too some where reported on the encounters show on OLN.                                                      BigBill

[Loader 3009]

Bullet maker, this Smoke "n" Mirrors Crabtree guy http://www.tooclosetothemirror.com/
is a B.S. artist.  He is selling books, can't you see?.  I hope you fellows aren't sending these guys any money.

BTW, some of those bigfoot sites y'all post have spyware.  Every since I visited a couple, I have been getting spammed with all kinds of offers on get-rich-quick schemes.

[quickdtoo]

Grover Krantz will reject any and all evidence, that he hasn`t found first. I have known of an individual, who sent him some blood samples, after shooting a bigfoot. The bigfoot got away, but blood tissue and stomach contents, were collected. All was sent to Grover Krantz, at his request, and as of todate, they haven`t heard a word from him. They called him and sent e-mails, and now he says he knows nothing about it. Huummm. :twisted:
 
bullet maker

I hope he isn't still waiting for a response from Grover, he died in 2002!

[quickdtoo]

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How often do you see a mountainlion carcass and there out there?  Bigfoot have been hit by cars too some where reported on the encounters show on OLN.      BigBill

I think "Harry" was the name of the only "bigfoot" that's been hit by a car and that happened in Hollywood!

Harry and the Hendersons

[IntrepidWizard]

When I hear those rocks clicking I go down and shoot um,skin them out and make red haired Lamp shades.

[pinduck]

As far as I am concerned the absolute proof that no bigfoot exists is if there ever was one the government would have a welfare department set up to provid housing, healthcare, food supplies, educational facilities and a major department set up to be sure there was no profiling of the bigfoot species.

[bullet maker]

Bullet maker, this Smoke "n" Mirrors Crabtree guy http://www.tooclosetothemirror.com/
is a B.S. artist.  He is selling books, can't you see?.  I hope you fellows aren't sending these guys any money.

BTW, some of those bigfoot sites y'all post have spyware.  Every since I visited a couple, I have been getting spammed with all kinds of offers on get-rich-quick schemes.

Hi loader 3009  
  Yeah, I know he`s selling books, but you need to hear the whole story, first. You see when they made that movie about the Legend of Boggy Creek, they used all of the town locals of Fouk Ark. in the movie. They also promised to pay them part of the royaltys from the movie. Now when the movie came out, it became a huge success. it made 14 million dollars. The producer of the movie was a guy named Charles Pierce. He took the money and ran, didnt leave the town people nothing. So Mr Crabtree spent a small fortune, (his life savings) to bring the guy to justice.
He didnt win, but did get a court injunction against anymore money going to Pierce. So now Smokey Crabtree is selling books on the subject, to get some of the money back that he lost over all these years, chasing this guy. That in itself, would make an interesting movie.
   But really Loader, he is a down to earth guy, , give him a call or go visit. I did and he`s one of a kind.

bullet maker

[Prisoner's Anvil]

As far as I am concerned the absolute proof that no bigfoot exists is if there ever was one the government would have a welfare department set up to provid housing, healthcare, food supplies, educational facilities and a major department set up to be sure there was no profiling of the bigfoot species.

Not without serving first in the Forces. This site can explain Bigfoot Service better than I can. http://zapatopi.net/bsa/militia.html

[Patriot_1776]

pinduck wrote:

As far as I am concerned the absolute proof that no bigfoot exists is if there ever was one the government would have a welfare department set up to provid housing, healthcare, food supplies, educational facilities and a major department set up to be sure there was no profiling of the bigfoot species.

Prisoner's Anvil Wrote:

Not without serving first in the Forces.

Y'all forgot one thing:  They also would need to be provided with the right to vote! :-D  :-D     Patriot

[twodollarpistol]

Just gotta ask. If old Crabtree has this intact body except for the head, and that bunch in Texas would give both there left  for any proof that bigfoot is real, why dont they hook up? Just a little piece of flesh for D N A testing would put an end to all the controversy. Wouldnt it? And according to this article would make Crabtree a wealthy man. Im sure there is a reason. Always is. But I really want to hear it. :wink: Cant put much stock in Crabtree and his money making scam. Now some of you guys have some pretty interesting stories to relate, that I must admit are somewhat beleavable and hard to put down. Im still a little open minded on some of those, but this guy is a scam artist, and nothing more, in my opinion. :roll:

[bullet maker]

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How often do you see a mountainlion carcass and there out there?  Bigfoot have been hit by cars too some where reported on the encounters show on OLN.      BigBill

I think "Harry" was the name of the only "bigfoot" that's been hit by a car and that happened in Hollywood!

Harry and the Hendersons

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GOOD ONE QUICKDTOO
BULLET MAKER  

[1911crazy]

Don't you guys remember the one that was hit by a pickup truck on clse encounters on OLN?  It was out in the mid west somewhere. Its not jolly wood there?       BigBill

[Deadeye47]

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How often do you see a mountainlion carcass and there out there?  Bigfoot have been hit by cars too some where reported on the encounters show on OLN.      BigBill

I think "Harry" was the name of the only "bigfoot" that's been hit by a car and that happened in Hollywood!

Harry and the Hendersons

     :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D        
GOOD ONE QUICKDTOO
BULLET MAKER  

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[kevin.303]

my computer hate picture/smilie heavy threads. deadeye47 i'm going to hurt you! :-D

my dad thoughtt that maybe one reason why bodies never seem to be found is that if they do exist, perhaps they're cannabalistic and they eat there dead.

[twodollarpistol]

How often do you see a mountainlion carcass and there out there?     BigBill

 Big Bill, While I have never found a lion carcass or bear myself, I would submit that others have. We do have skeletons of these animals and even live specimens. Although these are very wary and hard to see creatures, we have no problem proving there existence. Even in places where they are not supposed to exist.  Im not trying to be argumentive here, just responding to your question and trying to contribute to the topic.

[Loader 3009]

There are at least two degrees of reality.  What one perceives to be "real", one considers to be real.  What is "really real" may not be perceived by all observers.  So, you see, perception is not the key to reality.  

We do not "see" with our eyes but with our brain.  Our eyes are only lenses, connected by nerve endings, to our brains.  It is actually possible to see things that are not there and to not see things which are.  Hearing works like sight.  Ever been working or engaged in other activity and heard someone call your name?  Ever answered them.....only to find no one called?  Ever been looking for an object and not found it, although it was in full view all the time?

Does all of this have anything to do with Bigfoot?  I think so.  Now, the question is, "How do several people observe the same thing at the same time?"  I'll save the answer for another time.

[RollTide]

I don't know Mr. Crabtree, but I do have some knowledge of Dr. Krantz.  If Dr. Krantz said Mr. Crabtree  has a lion skeleton, you can take that to the bank.  If what Crabtree has is a legitimate undocumented primate skeleton, any university in the country could verify that and all his financial worries would be over because there are any number of people who would pay big bucks for the skeleton.  He may very well believe it to be a bigfoot, but Krantz would have confirmed it.  Dr. Krantz did take the time to travel to see the skeleton.   Why would he do that if he was going to dismiss it because he did not find it?  Please don't be too quick to disparage the reputation of a fine man, especially 2 years after his death.

Roll Tide

[MATLOCK12C]

I seen a lion's feet. Now I am not a zooligist, just a country boy with a little bit of book learning and I just could not make the connection with a primate foot and that pic. I could be wrong, and stand corrected if I am.
The feet in the pic were just too narrow I thought.

[HeltonPrecision]

I really dont know but things happen in the least expected places You might would think of a bigfoot but others... it wouldnt cross there minds