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Offline johnboyncsu

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« on: October 05, 2004, 02:01:32 PM »
I have a model 110 Savage 270 and have noticed that the bolt is tight closing when shooting either Winchester ballistic tips or the plain silvertips as compared to Remington pointed soft points.  I was just curious if anyone else had noticed this or knew what the cause is?

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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2004, 02:05:27 PM »
I've never noticed that particular problem, but in my 110 in .30-06, if I shoot the Barnaul stuff the bolt becomes EXTREMELY hard to open after being fired (needed to pull with 2 hands).  Much more so than an old 03-A3 I had so I don't think it's just the laquer melting (the Barnual stuff in that rifle came out as easily as brass).  I only fired 3 or 4 rounds of the stuff before stopping.  With brass ammo I'ved never had a hitch.

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2004, 02:16:08 PM »
Are you shooting handloads?   Or factory?

The profile of the bullets is not the same between these three projectiles and if handloaded might be the problem with a bullet jamming into the lands of the rifling.    You might have to seat the bullet(s) deeper with handloads.

If factory ammo is a problem then maybe you have a short-throated rifle, or one that is set at minimum head space on the SSSSSaaaaa....SSSSSAAAAA   ( I can say REMINGTON and RUGER, but why not SSSSSAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa??)

you know what I mean!

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your problem is not chambering, but is probably due to soft brass or excess pressures......after the rifle has been fired.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2004, 02:23:14 PM »
All of the bullets I have fired in this rifle are factory loads.  I've never done any reloading.  The gun shoots fine and all but you just have to apply a little more force when closing the bolt behind a new round.

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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2004, 03:18:12 PM »
Using a bronze chamber brush may fix your problem. A little carbon in the chamber could be your problem.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2004, 04:34:58 PM »
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MG'

your problem is not chambering, but is probably due to soft brass or excess pressures......after the rifle has been fired.


Barnaul is steel cased, so I don't think it's going to be soft cases.  I suppose it could be high pressure, but at the time I didn't reload so I didn't know the various signs to look for on the cases.   Either way I don't shoot them anymore.

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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2004, 04:53:53 PM »
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Barnaul is steel cased, so I don't think it's going to be soft cases.


One thing I believe happens with steel casings, is they aren't designed perfectly to anyone's chamber.  Two, when the case IS chambered, it would have to have been forced slightly.  Three, when the case is fired, the high pressures causes the steel to expand slightly, and unlike brass, it does contract the way brass does after the pressure is expended, leading to harder extraction.  My little interpretations come from an adapter I had for my 30-06.  It was a steel 30-06 case body, the inside being reamed to hold 30 M1 Carbine ammunition.  It was fun, but I had to oil it to ease chambering, and extraction was not as easy as standard cartridges.  Just my two cents on steel casings.  Patriot
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2004, 08:04:47 AM »
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If you have a micrometer, I'd check the outside diameters of the necks of the cases that are tight and compare those to the ones that work easily.  It might just be that run of factory stuff.  Sometime they screw up too.  Might not be anything wrong with the rifle at all.

You can also have a gunsmith check the chamber dimensions too.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2004, 03:06:13 PM »
I see yours only does it with certain ammo so this probably isn't causing
your problem but on a savage make sure the front action screw isn't long or the bolt will close hard