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Offline razmuz

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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2003, 05:00:35 PM »
I've been hunting for over fifty years and have never met anyone that claims they missed a shot because a wooden stock was effected by weather conditions.  I've hunted Texas deserts, Arkansas swamps and New Mexico snow.  I read about stocks swelling in some gun magazine and like a fool bought a H.S. Precision for my rifle.  It's a great stock, but it just doesn't do anything for me.  I'm begining to think that all the new calibers and stuff is just to get your money.  Plastic or wood the deer will never know the difference.

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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2003, 03:24:08 AM »
Razmuz,

Actually, I had a different exeperience.  It may be a fluke, but I'll share it nonetheless.

Some years ago, I was hunting in Bandera, Texas - a small town outside of San Antonio.  At the time, I was using my uncle's Remington BDL in .270 Winchester.  I can't remember what ammo I was using, but I do remember that it was zeroed in at 100 yards.  

It was about the middle of November and that day was especially hot - about 82 degrees.  In any event, we had been warned that a very strong cold front was coming down and that Oklahoma had been hit very hard with snow, sleet, and ice.  Well, we thought that by the time the front came down to us, it would have fizzled out - big mistake. :roll:

I was in a hunting in the afternoon in ground blind wearing shorts and a T-shirt.   Like I said, it started out being about 82 degrees.  Within about 2 hours, the temp plummeted to about 30 degrees! :eek:   Later that night, the temp got down to about the low teens.

The next morning I remember that themometer reading 12 degrees.  The ground was covered in ice.  The trucks were sliding all over the place, so we walked about a mile to the blinds.

More relevant to the issue at hand, I spotted a doe at about 100 yards.  I aimed at the neck - right behind the ear, where I normally aim on a doe, pulled the trigger, and the doe took of like lightning.  Very unusual. :?   I couldn't have missed.

Well, I went back to the 100 yard shooting range that was on the ranch and checked my point of aim.  Guess what?  My shot was about 3 inches low, and about 2 inches to the left of the bulls eye! :eek:

Now, was it the wooden stock?  Was it the ammo?  (I have been told that ammo looses velocity in colder climates).

I can understand a loss in velocity, but a 3" drop?  Besides, the cold weather doesn't pull a shot to the left or right.  As such, I think that it was because of the stock.

On a related note,  a similar event happened to me another year, but I was shooting a Remington Sendero with the HS Precision stock.  The gun still shot at the same POI (point of impact).

Again, perhaps my experience was a fluke, but, then again, perhaps it wasn't.  Then again, we are talking about extreme temperature changes in very short periods of time.

Zachary

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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2003, 04:06:13 PM »
Hey Zachery, a three inch drop wouldn't make that much difference on a neckshort, I think.

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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2003, 09:56:15 AM »
Well, actually, a 3 inch drop did make a difference because I missed the deer completely.  Texas whitetails are not that big to begin with, and does are even smaller.  In this one particular area of Texas, the does were about 65 to 70 pounds...not much bigger than some dogs.  As such, their necks, at least that part close to their heads, is probably not more than 5 or 6 inches anyway.  As such, even if you shoot in the middle of the neck, it would be a clear miss (which, unfortunately, it was. :oops: )

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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2003, 04:56:55 PM »
Well, gents I'm back from the hospital were they clean out my stent and I'm good to go for another 50,000 miles.

Like my previous reply on the new T-3 here we go:

Caliber:  223,22-250,243,308,25-06,6.5X55mm,270,30-06,7mmRem.,300 Win. Mag., 338 WSM.

Barrel:  22 7/16" std. and 24 3/8" for mag.
Trigger:  single-stage; 2-4 lbs. pull
Magazine:  single-column detachable; 3 rounds
Sights:  none, integral scope rails for Tikka Optilock system; drilled and tapped for Weaver-style bases
Stock:  Tikka TrueBody in walnut or composite; patented buttplate spacer system w/adjustable length of pull
Safety:  two-stage; two-position
Overall length:  42 1/2"-44 1/2"
Weight:  6 3/16 lbs-6 13/16 lbs.
Metal Finish:  blued or stainless
Accessories:  1" low aluminum Optilock scope rings

Trigger guard is the only alloy part on the T3 action, all other parts are steel, except the polymer magazine and bolt shroud.

Only one action length with a bolt stop and stepped magazine eliminates the need for both long and short action versions.  Helps keep the cost down that I read.  Price looks to be 549-646.00

Hope this helps everyone, I got this out of Feb. 03 American Hunter.

Buck

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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2003, 02:32:34 AM »
A 6 1/2 pound rifle (or thereabouts) seems kinda light.  I know that Tikka has the T3 Lite Stainless, and now we know why they call it "Lite."

Zachary