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Offline billy

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« on: September 15, 2004, 12:48:50 PM »
How good of a gun is a savage bolt action rifle?
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2004, 01:08:21 PM »
As good as they come for the money.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2004, 01:23:37 PM »
IMHO one of the best values for the money. If you want a rifle to show off, a Savage isn't the one to buy. If you want a good, solid, accurate rifle that is a great hunting tool buy a Savage.  :wink:
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2004, 02:01:02 PM »
Excellent rifles.  My Savage 110 .30-06 will do sub-MOA with just about anything I feed it (except Federal Power Shok.  It didn't like those).  Decently smooth action and very reliable.  It's not a thing of beauty by any means, but it's not really ugly per se either.  Just a plain looking rifle.  The only complaints I have would be that the trigger guard and mag follower are plastic.  This has never caused me a bit of trouble (and aftermarket parts are available), but given a choice I would have paid a bit more for aluminum ones.

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2004, 03:26:53 PM »
My savage 111 30-06 will also easly shoot 1 MOA.  I don't like the looks but when it shoots as good as it does it really doesn't matter.  I would not hesitate to buy another one.

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2004, 04:08:22 PM »
I have owned four Savage bolt actions over the last eleven years. The first Savage was a 111 in .243 (which I still have); it is very accurate and well made for the money.

Second was a 116 Stainless/laminated stock in .270. It had a lot of problems. The length of pull was way too long, even for a big person. Barrel heating caused vertical shot stringing with all loads tried (yes, it had proper bedding). Suspect this barrel got past their QC folks.The serial number on the receiver was, for lack of a better term, out of focus. I found this hard to accept. They must have been asleep when they boxed it up.

Third was an 11 in .708. It was not very accurate...just could not find any load that would consistently group well at any distance. Suspect this barrel also got past their QC folks.

Fourth was 10 Scout Rifle in .308. The front sight blade was canted to the right, hence I had to adjust the rear sight way left. It was accurate and lived up to their advertising, but the front sight blade drove me up the wall.

Will I buy another Savage rifle? Probably...but, I will be cautious.

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2004, 05:51:48 AM »
Not exactly sure what you mean by "good" but anyways I have 3 Savage rifles and would not hesitate to get another. Only thing holding me back is funds to procure it and need for some reloading equipment. I especially like Savage rifles with the Accutrigger, this trigger looks a tad strange at first but it grows on you and is very nice to shoot with. While many bemoan the perceived lack of aesthetics, I think that the Savage's value pricing tends to bring out the "snob factor" in some shooters. The rifles look just fine to me and the fact that they are not too hard on my budget really helps me to indulge my passion for the sport. Accuracy-wise they hold their own with any of the more "aesthetically correct" rifles on the market.

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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2004, 11:58:25 AM »
Just last week I looked at a Savage 111 synthetic.   The stock is too flexible, much more flexible than the Remington 700 or Ruger 77 that I like.   The bolt was smooth; the scope and rings were CHEAP.   Not worth an investment of $310 on sale, in my opinion.    Why pay for a stock, scope, and rings that you're going to have to replace?

Get a Remington 700 ADL syn' or a Weatherby Vanguard would be my advice.    Buy one of 'em from Wal-Mart at a reasonable price.  

Sorry.   But for my money, Remington is Very Accurate out-of-the box!   My work with them has been well worth the time and the results are every bit of what I'm reading about Savage.

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2004, 12:10:39 PM »
Safetysheriff has a point. My 110 tactical in 25/06 came with the synthetic stock. It was total junk. Put a Choate varmint stock on it and that baby shoots 3/8" 100 meter groups all day. If I were to buy another I would be certain it sported a laminatated stock. I'm not sure which models  come with those off the top of my head.   KN

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2004, 01:17:03 PM »
billy,

At this point in time you will not find another factory rifle that is more accurate than the Savage out of the box.  Best bang for your buck going today.  Just make sure you get the wood stock.  Lawdog
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2004, 02:13:20 PM »
Quote from: safetysheriff
Just last week I looked at a Savage 111 synthetic.   The stock is too flexible, much more flexible than the Remington 700 or Ruger 77 that I like.   The bolt was smooth; the scope and rings were CHEAP.   Not worth an investment of $310 on sale, in my opinion.    Why pay for a stock, scope, and rings that you're going to have to replace?


Well, all synthetics feel cheap to me ;), so I got the wood stock version, but the Savage with the scope and rings is usually cheaper than the Remington without (assuming we're talking about the 700 and not the 710).  So you're still saving money and you have a scope to throw on something else (I put the scope off of my 110 .30-06 onto my Ruger 10/22.  It does fine there).  A decent set of rings costs $20.  You're going to have to buy a scope with the others too.  The Savage still comes out ahead in my book.  Don't get me wrong, Remington's are a good rifle, and there's a possibility that I might get one in the future (though CZ, Tikka, and Howa are looking more appealing right now), but if you're on a budget and want a good hunting rifle, the Savage is tough to beat.  

There's also that new Mossberg rifle for $245 at Wally World.  I haven't seen one in person yet, and certainly can't attest to the quality, but if it shoots good that'll be a heck of a deal.  The $264 Winchester 94 and $190 Handi Rifles are very sound choices too.

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2004, 02:50:41 PM »
I have a savage 10fp-le2 in 7.62 NATO. with accutrigger

I have only shoot it about 80 times to break it in. I am getting about 1 1/2 inches at 100 yards. I have not played around with the loads yet.

I have a redfiels mount and Leupold rings.  The mount only screws in 3 of the 4 holes! I should be able to get 1/2  or smaller groups with a better mount / rings and some load developments.


this rifle is very nice It is way better then most of the Remingtons I ahve seen in the past 10 years.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2004, 01:34:10 AM »
My Savage M110E is a tack driver.  It in 243 and used to have a factory synthetic stock.  I used it as-is for over 12 years and it now wheres a laminated stock.  It shoots less than a inch at 100 yards with my loads.  I wouldn't have any problems owning another one.  Savage rifles are inexpensive, durable, reliable, and accurate.  I don't think that you could ask for a better working/utility type hunting rifle.  Not too pretty, but a darned good gun.

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2004, 04:48:06 AM »
rickyp- nearly all the rotary dovetail scope mounting systems only use three scope base mounting screws.  The reason is that on these mounts the rear ring mount has two opposed screws used to provide rough zeroing for windage and these screws are not really designed to hold a scope in recoil.  In fact if you tighten them too much it is possible to bend the shanks, ruining the screws.  They hold the scopes just fine but are not as strong as scope bases that fully use both rings to restrain the scope.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2004, 01:53:07 PM »
One of the first serious deer rifles I ever had was a Savage 110 in my favorite caliber, 270W, with blued action and synthetic stock. That rifle would shoot almost anything you put in it into less than an inch at 100 yards. Ammo it really liked would go into less than an inch at 200 yards on days when I was up to the task.
One day thinking I needed a better foul weather rifle, I bought a Ruger 77 stainless. The truth is the store had the Ruger and not the Savage. I was lucky and the Ruger shoots as well as the Savage.
When my stepson needed a reliable, accurate deer rifle, I gave him my Savage. It's been on several hunts over the years and hasn't failed either of us. If you miss, it's not the guns fault.
I wouldn't call them ugly, nor would I say they're beautiful, but it's hard not to like the rifle that accounted for more deer than you can count. In my eyes it's a thing of beauty.

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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2004, 04:33:46 PM »
I have owned a 110 in 270W for a dozen years or so. It came with a cheap wood stock, so I put it in a Ramline black synthetic shortly after I bought it. I also put a Timney trigger on it and it is the most accurate gun I own. On a calm day I can almost always get sub MOA groups with most factory loads. The most accurate is with Fed Prem 140 gr Nosler Accubonds, but the Fed Prem 150 gr Nosler Partitions are a very close second. I have tried the new accu-trigger on a friends rifle and was not impressed with it...guess it just takes some getting used to. I firmly believe that for someone on a budget, the best choice is a Savage. The second best choice would be a Weatherby Vanguard. You can pay more, but you won't get anything more accurate "out-of-the-box" unless you go to a very expensive custom job.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2004, 08:06:53 PM »
My father has a savage model 110 in 30-06 that is 2 years younger than myself and after he and I have both put well over 5000 rounds each through it it still shoots under 1 moa if you can do your part. I just purchased a model 111 in 300 win mag last winter and it is one sweet shooting rifle, loves anything i have fed it! I think it would be hard to change to another manufacturer with that kind of results for the price!
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