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« on: September 03, 2004, 06:05:53 PM »
Well finally got the dies and brass in yesterday. Have some Creeker 400 gr. keiths, so headed for the reloading bench. Load #1 25gr. H4227, load #2 27gr.H110. The Creeker 400gr has a nose to meplat of 450 this is maximum length in the BFR. for an OAL of 1.850.

That was yesterday, today rained all day but did manage to get  a few shots off between showers. First of all let me say having owned a FA 454  6"and shot a converted 5.5" converted 500 Linebaugh the BFR 475 is a pleasure to shot.

The group of 25 gr. of 4227 put the first 3 shots in a cloverleaf of under 1"! the 4th shot may have been me but went 1" lower than the rest. The 5th round went over the chrony at 1310fps. After shooting the first 5 noticed some apparent leading, may be due to the fact the Creeker 400gr. keith is a plain base, and may explain the 2nd group.

The 2nd group was of 27gr. H110. The first 2 went into 1" the next right open the group to 1.75" and the 4th low opening to 2.25". The 5th went agian over the chrony for 1413fps. Am looking for a gas check bullet of a nose to meplat of at least .400. This load did get a little snappy :grin: Found my trigger finger had endured some skin removal as noticed the blood in the golf glove when completed. Still not as sharp though as the FA 454.

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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2004, 05:11:56 AM »
Sounds like a hell of a gun! I love my BFR in .45-70. Did you get the 10" barrel? These things are built like tanks, and very accurate. I haven't shot mine all that much because of the heat, (I live in Phoenix). As soon as it cools off I'll be out in force with it. Next on the list is another BFR in .500 S&W. I need it like a hole in the head, but this is one gun I just can't get enough of. Good shooting!  Bill T.

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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2004, 09:14:07 PM »
No mine is the supposed :? 6.5" but in reality measures a shade over 7"? Why I have no clue. Have considered taking an inch to 1.5" off. But is preforming so well maybe I can Live with the "Long" barrel :grin:

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2004, 12:07:39 AM »
when i went round and round with MR about not being pleased with mine. They told me that they measure barrels from the end of the frame not from the forcing cone like every one else in the world.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2004, 01:55:30 PM »
I found this place and thread obviously a bit late. However, I don't see much info on the 'net about the BFRs so I'm going to help this one along again. In any case I just got mine (475/480 BFR) and it also has the 7" barrel rather than the listed 6.5." I really prefer my single actions to be around 4.5-4.75 so it'll probably get a trim at some point. I have not had a chance to use mine much at all yet either but, shooting 480 loads w/ 400 grain bullets, it has proved to be a pussycat. I don't believe it stings as much as the Redhawk does with heavy 320 loads. I like the gun a lot (with all of 20 rounds under my belt). Hopefully I'll be able to continue in that vein after my bullet mold arrives and I can crank off a bunch more rounds through it.

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2004, 12:11:47 AM »
Well, to update things a bit, I just got another BFR in .500 S&W Mag. This one matches my other BFR in .45-70. Both are equipped with 10" barrels. The .500 came drilled and tapped for a scope mount that was supplied with the gun! A really nice touch. I don't think I'll be mounting a scope anytime soon. So far I'm not having any luck finding anyone that has .500 S&W brass in stock. Demand is outstripping supply. Dies and shellholder are on the way. Handloading is an absolute must, as there is no way I'm paying $38.00 for 12 rounds! I really like the way these BFR's are fit and finished. The gun shows quality throught. Until I get brass, I'll be trying to dig up loading data, and perhaps a nice bullet mold. Anyone know of a newer manual that has .500 S&W loading data??   Bill T.

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2004, 03:04:34 AM »
BillT, try Jamison International or Starline for the 500MAG brass. I have about 500 pieces of brass for mine.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2005, 09:45:28 AM »
8) Magnum research is considering a release of short barreled BFRs in 480/475.  If interested, it might be a good idea to shoot them an e-mail regarding their method of measuring barrel length.  I heard they just released a limited run of .500 S & W BFRs in 5.5" barrel length, but have not found one, or anyone who has one, to confirm the actual length from forcing cone.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2005, 11:23:35 AM »
Sorry about reviving an old post, but I just bought a .475 BFR (6.5").

I have been shooting since I was a teenager, mostly with the 1911.  I did rent revolvers several times, in .41 and .44 Magnum.  I didn't mind the recoil, so I figure I can probably get used to the Linebaugh, if not, I'll just load .480 up to my comfort level.  That's the reason I wanted a .480, depending on the load, it can shoot easier than a .44 Magnum or nearly at the .454 level and .475 has lots of potential.

I bought a BFR because Ruger does not make a Blackhawk or Bisley in .480, and I don't want to pay the price or wait for an FA.  I don't want a double action, so the Super Redhawk and Raging Bull are out.

I'm currently in the 10 day wait and I have a few questions for when I take delivery.

I'll be happy if the fit and finish looks like a Ruger or better, it shoots straight and it's reliable.

What areas should I pay attention to?

What kind of hearing protection works best with a big bore?

Who makes the best shooting glove?

Who makes a holster that will fit the "6.5" short cylinder BFR well?

What cleaning products should I buy?

Lastly, are there any other tips or tricks that you have picked up while using the BFR's?

I'm going to be going to the range in about a week.  I will be taking about 180 rounds of Hornady ammo.  I have the 325 grain and 400 grain .480 Ruger and the 400 grain .475 Linebaugh ammo.  I would have liked to buy some cast bullet ammo, but it's about twice as expensive as the Hornady ammo, so it will have to wait for reloading.

I'll post my impression after I have exhausted the ammo or my arm hurts too much to continue.

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2005, 12:15:24 PM »
I sold my BFR to a friend. I miss the gun. I have 2 S&W500's now, but think I will get another BFR again.  :D
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2005, 02:47:15 PM »
dose the  bfr 45-70 really kick as much as a super black hawk 44 mag as i hear so much???

im tore they came out with the bfr in 460 or do i get the 45-70/450 marlin :0)


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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2005, 04:51:14 PM »
Quote from: SLAVAGE
dose the  bfr 45-70 really kick as much as a super black hawk 44 mag as i hear so much???

im tore they came out with the bfr in 460 or do i get the 45-70/450 marlin :0)


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Where did you hear that they had a 460 in the BFR? I did not see that on there website.
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2005, 04:57:01 PM »
RE: Magnum Contact Form from website

Yes...in both the 7.5" and the 10".  We just sent our first
shipment of
the 7.5" barrel lengths to our distributor RSR (have your dealer contact
them to order for you).  As to the 10" about three more weeks before we
see our first shipment and this will be also going to RSR.  Anything
shorter it would be a custom order through our custom shop.

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Contact information from magnum website

Name: Address:
City: pittsburgh
State: pa
Zip:
Country: Phone:
Fax:
Email: slavage@bigfoot.com
I own these Magnum firearms: none
Comments: i was woundering if you could send me a cataloge
an all so i had a question

do you plan on making a bfr in 460 s&w an if so is it going to be in a
shorter lenth like the 454 or the longer length like the 45-70

thanks
dave
 



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got one ordered but wount have it for about 3 months
had to layway it

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2005, 07:24:21 AM »
Well, I survived my outing with the .475 Linebaugh BFR.

I used a bicycle glove because I didn't know what to expect.  It would have been fine without the glove for limited shooting, but it was nice to have after the first 20-30 rounds.

Recoil was stiff, but not as bad as I expected.

The range had a firing rate rule of two seconds between shots.  While it wasn't like an automatic where it is hard to slow it down that much, I still had to wait for a second between shots.

The accuracy was not that great, but I blame myself.  The trigger pull was a bit stiff and I think that threw me off.  I tried dry firing it later with one leg of the trigger spring hanging free and that made the trigger feel much better.  I'll have to try that at the range next time.

I had three different types of ammo, all from Hornady.  325 grain, 1350 fps .480 Ruger, 400 grain, 1275 fps .480 Ruger and 400 grain, 1300 fps .475 Linebaugh.  The 325 grain was definitely the lightest recoiling, but the 400 grain loads were a toss up.  That tells me that the Linebaugh probably has quite a bit more potential than the Hornady ammo.  (velocity was from the box, I did not test it)

I did have a little ejection difficulty with the 400 grain loads.  Most of the shells dropped out fine, but one or two of the cylinders would take a little persuasion, the shell would come out about 1/8" then stick.  I'm going to have to get a small hole bore gauge set to see if those cylinders are bored a bit too large.

Over all, the gun functioned flawlessly, no misfires, no loose screws.  The quality of the machining looked good.  There are a couple of surfaces that were left as cast, but you can't see it unless you pull the cylinder out.  The cylinder had very little play to it and the gap to the barrel was very small.  As others have noted, the 6 1/2" barrel actually measures about 7 1/8", I may change that later, but for now it's fine.

My only complaint is the grips.  They are made for a super Blackhawk grip frame and the BFR has a different shape trigger guard, so it does not match up well.  Also, when cocking the hammer one handed, the pressure on the side of the middle finger against the grip did create some lasting soreness.  I'm sure that is common for a single action, but I think if the shape of the grip had a more gentle radius below the trigger guard, it could have been reduced.

If I can improve my accuracy with the gun to anywhere near the 2" @ 50 yards that Taffin recorded, I will be very pleased and will say that the BFR was worth every penny.

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2005, 03:24:39 PM »
I bought the 7.5" version of the .475 that measured 8.25".  I got a good deal on a new one and planned to cut the barrel down to 6".  When I call Magnum Research about any thing I should be carefull about the said that the barrel is glued to the frame in a manner that about 80% of the guns that gunsmiths try to remove the barrel get gaulled, warped or stripped.  So when I had it cut down the gunsmith cut the barrel and used a brass pilot to guide the end cutter.  Muzzle and crown is better than factory.