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Is the Ruger Super Redhawk...
« on: August 01, 2004, 01:00:32 AM »
accurate enough for the Hunter Pistol event.
I heard revolvers are not as good as the single shots.
The event I am shooting allows any gun as long as it uses a pistol (straight wall) cartridge. I was thinking of getting either a .44 Super Readhawk w/9.5" barrel or a .44 magnum 10" Contender.
What is the best choice? BTW, I want to scope the gun.

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Re: Is the Ruger Super Redhawk...
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2004, 06:00:15 AM »
Great Question Pookee :D

The Redhawk is capable of taking all the targets in the Hunter Pistol game accuracy wise assuming you do some load development work for your pistol.  Part of your post refers to being as "good" as a single shot.  

Single shots do not have to depend on the timing of the cylinder nor have the forcing cone issues and therefore are more accurate on average.  They get the accuracy nod when compared to most revolvers.  On caliber, all the shooting games are going to smaller and smaller calibers in general as they make the game somewhat easier on the competitor.  This is evident in the Hunter Pistol game with the .22 Hornet being the caliber of choice for the vast majority of top shooters.  In Cowboy action the .32's and very lightly loaded .38's are the top choice amoung the shooters where a few 1/10s of a second may decide between 1st and 5th place.  In short lighter and/or smaller is the trend. If your desire is to be a top gun you might want to consider the trends.  

On a personal note I truly believe this gamer mentality is death to growth in the shooting sports.  As you noted the Hunter Pistol was a straight walled pistol cartridge game, yet today is dominated by bottle necked cartriges that were all originally rifle cartridges.  You mentioned scoping the Redhawk.  HP is again dominated by the Hornet in the scope category because the fellows at the top are using higher powered rifle scopes (18x on up to 24x are fairly common anymore in the winners circle) held close to the eye.  This would be ill advised with a .44 even with very light loads.   Were I to write the rules for a 100 yard silhouette game for centerfire pistol it would require bullets of 100gr. or more and at least of .30 caliber in straight wall configuation only.  This would get the gamers somewhat out of the game though no doubt the .30 carbine, .32's and .38's would most likely still have an advantage over the .41's 44's and 45's.  The advantage would not be nearly as great as the Hornet's however.   In my mind bigger participation is more important than gaining a few targets and losing the majority of pistols available, and their owners.  

In short the answer is Yes the Redhawk will work, you need to decide if it fits your personal goals.  Only you can answer that  :wink: Good luck to you regardless of which path you choose to follow. pistol
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accurate enough for the Hunter Pistol event.
I heard revolvers are not as good as the single shots.
The event I am shooting allows any gun as long as it uses a pistol (straight wall) cartridge. I was thinking of getting either a .44 Super Readhawk w/9.5" barrel or a .44 magnum 10" Contender.
What is the best choice? BTW, I want to scope the gun.

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2004, 06:30:05 AM »
Hi Akihmsa,
I have to correct myself, the event I am shooting is the Field Pistol event.
25, 50,75 and 100 yards.
I narroed the gun to get down to a TC Contender, 10" Bull barrel.
Have not decided on the cartridge.
What do you thing of the 32-20 or the 30 M1 Carbine.
I think both are legal, even though the 32-20 is not straight walled.
Are they legal?
How about performance?
I can go with any cartridge at this point.
Thanks.

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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2004, 03:11:46 PM »
Hi Pookee  :D

I think both of those are fine for FP and perfect scores have been shot with both.  These two have also been used in Big Bore and some are firing International scores with them using heavy bullets on the rams.  

I won't BS you, the .22 Hornet is the caliber of choice for FP, but it was not on my list.  I did not shoot FP all that much and did so primarily in Production which in that game is Standing iron sights.  Any of the ones mentioned will get the targets if you do your part.  What are your goals?  If it is primarily to have fun and beat your last score (or try to  :wink: ) then get any you like.  

Down the road you may see a new silhouette association and if it comes to pass The center fire short course (FP, HP) will be .30 or larger straight walled pistol cartridge of 1.29 case length or shorter period as the battle necks change the dynamics of the game and make it less popular than it really should be (it is a blast).  It is still in the "what if" stage and may never see the light of day though.  Hal Simpkins kicks butt with a .357 quite often as well though he is somewhat a lone ranger in this practice.

In the end it is up to you, if you like the silly wet game you will end up with a fair amount of barrels anyway so don't concern yourself too much with making a barrel "mistake".  One advantage of straight wall cartridges is you can use carbide dies if that is important to you.      
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Hi Akihmsa,
I have to correct myself, the event I am shooting is the Field Pistol event.
25, 50,75 and 100 yards.
I narroed the gun to get down to a TC Contender, 10" Bull barrel.
Have not decided on the cartridge.
What do you thing of the 32-20 or the 30 M1 Carbine.
I think both are legal, even though the 32-20 is not straight walled.
Are they legal?
How about performance?
I can go with any cartridge at this point.
Thanks.

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2004, 08:06:41 PM »
Pookee,
     Since you were asking for the best choice, and you mentioned the T/C and the Ruger Redhawk, you have already made the right choice by going with the T/C.  As to what caliber, I'll let you know how I settled on my choices.  I was shooting the Field Pistol game at the start with a 22lr or sometimes with a borrowed .357.  I asked around and settled on the 32 H&R Magnum in a T/C.  I was using this with a detachable scope mount and was doing quite well with it, shooting a 75/80 FP agg.  Due to helping out another shooter and a strange twist in the production rules, which has since been changed, I was led to obtain another barrel for PAS.  I borrowed a 22Hornet barrel from a friend of mine and headed to the INTS in 2001.  In PAS, the little hornet rang the last ram, but I still won by seven targets.  I ordered a barrel in 25-20, as that was the in-thing at the time and I do not like to 'miss' targets that I hit, but never did take a liking to it.  I could never get my confidence level up with that barrel as I had with the 32 Mag and that 22 Hornet barrel.  Last year I sold the 25-20 barrel and bought my friends 22 hornet barrel (for the history), and now shoot the 32 Mag in Production, (I will never sell this barrel, nor shoot anything else in a Field Pistol Production match that I wish to win).  I have shot a Ruger SBH 44 mag with 10 1/2" barrel and a Colt Mustang 380 with a 3" barrel, but just for fun.  I have shot three championships with this 22 Hornet barrel, and have won each with impressive scores.  To date, I have not shot better than a 38 PAS with the Hornet, but I was also shooting 38s with the 32 Mag in PAS.  The open sight 32 mag routinely gives me 36s and 37s, and once even rewarded me with a 39, never ringing a target.
Larry H

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2004, 10:03:00 AM »
Larry,
Great Story!
I was wondering what are you loading in the 32 H&R Mag?
130 grain Spirepoints?

What powder and primers?

Thanks.
George