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Offline Don McCullough

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Winchester model 100
« on: July 23, 2004, 04:57:27 PM »
Fellows,

Years ago I had a Winchester model 100 carbine in 308 Win.  I liked it.  Had a Weaver Tip-Off scope mount on it so I could use both scope or iron sights.

My big question:  Is this model reliable or not?  I didn't have mine long enough to know.  Really a handy, quick shooting gun.

Would you agree 600-800 would buy one in new to like new condition?  

Don McCullough
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Offline targshooter

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Winchester Model 100 reliability
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2004, 05:46:34 AM »
Don,
I had terrible luck with a .308 Model 100 I purchased in the early 1970s. It actually broke its gas recoil mechanism with no abuse of the firearm on my part. It was never an accurate rifle. Please note that Winchester fixed it for free, and later issued a recall on the part I believe. Though I liked the way the rifle handled, it was never better than a 2-3 MOA rifle at 100 yards. I also had to let the barrel cool quite a while between shots to get this accuracy, as it walked shots badly as it heated up. I have had much better accuracy from the Remington 742 and 7400s I've owned. However, these are not durable enough for heavy use as is seen in competition match use. So, this is my way of not slamming the Model 100 too much, just saying I would not pay the present premium collector prices to own one if I wanted a hunting rifle.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2004, 05:03:28 PM »
Mine in .243 is fairly reliable, but it does have "failure to feed" type jams occasionally. Accuracy is also in the 2-3" range, I thought with the 1 pc stock it would be better. For $600-$800 I'd go with a BAR.
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Offline Thunder38849

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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2004, 05:01:59 PM »
I have one in .308 that my dad bought new in 1965.  Has been hunted with every year since.  He had to stop hunting 2 years ago due to his health.  He gave the rifle to me and I carry it hunting a few times per year.  I simply love the rifle.   Have never had a problem with it, and get 1 1/2 inch groups @ 100 yards.   That is with Remington Core Lokt ammo., it doesn't seem to like Winchester ammo very well.

   I am in the market for a M-100 in .243 and .284 to complete the set.
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Offline stymie

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2004, 02:16:41 AM »
I have 2 m100's and they have worked well for me . Both are in 308.
Am moving to Alaska next May am thinking of selling both.
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Offline ms

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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2004, 11:43:56 PM »
I have a 284 model 100 thats going back to winchester. I don't care for the way the rifle shoot. The rifle was my grandfather that is the only reason that sucker is still in the closet. Here is the # for the firing pin problem 800-852-5734. .:lol:
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2004, 03:42:07 AM »
I have the same exact gun you are describing.  It had the old weaver scope and a tip off mount.  When my granddad passed on I got it.  I wanted to hunt with this go so bad but it is extremely unreliable and un accurate.  When I clean it, I can get 4 or 5 shots before it jams.  Once it jams it does it every time.  I have tried hand loads and it is still 2+MOA with an occasional drifter.  I have descided to retire it.
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Offline Don McCullough

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2004, 04:27:46 PM »
bigbuck270,

Sorry your grand dad's model 100 is unreliable.  A shame to just let it sit.  Why don't you try to find a gunsmith (a really good one) who can make the gun reliable and accurate?  Surely this is possible.

I may buy one again and do what I'm telling you to do.  They are a neat little, nice to carry gun.  I would want to be assured the gun would be reliable before spending much money.

Don McCullough

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I have the same exact gun you are describing.  It had the old weaver scope and a tip off mount.  When my granddad passed on I got it.  I wanted to hunt with this go so bad but it is extremely unreliable and un accurate.  When I clean it, I can get 4 or 5 shots before it jams.  Once it jams it does it every time.  I have tried hand loads and it is still 2+MOA with an occasional drifter.  I have descided to retire it.
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Offline Mark whiz

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2004, 04:27:11 AM »
Mod 100s were never known as tack drivers, but they are reliable hunting rifles.  2 to 3" groups are standard and work well shooting anything over the size of varmints.

Here's a quick tip for those having accuracy & feed problems.....................clean the gas system out.   These things are quite similiar to the M1A in operation and after a couple hundred rounds, powder residue builds up in the piston and the end cap.  This changes the pressure curve inside the barrel, causing accuracy changes and too fast of an operating speed of the operating arm/bolt.  Take the receiver down and pull the gas system, clean it, and reassemble it DRY...............do not put any lube on the piston or gas cylinder or else you'll be breaking it down again soon to clean out the goo that will be formed by the lube/powder residue mixture.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2004, 06:05:16 PM »
I would never own one again. Had a 243 that might shoot 2 rounds or not. Just finished deer season here and a hunting partner shoots one in 308, every time he shoots something happens. Shell jam, miss fire, failure to pick up a new one, leaves the empty in the chamber, on and on. He has been informed not to come to next years camp with it again. This has gone on sinced he's owned it. BTW my 243 was stolen, too bad for the crooks. There are way better units out there for the money.
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Offline 257Robt

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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2004, 01:48:53 AM »
One of my buddies shoots a model 100 carbine in 308 and loves it. He hasn't had any problems with it yet. It helps that he cleans the living heck out of the thing inside and out. I had one that wouldn't feed every third round. If Winchester could have got it right, these would have been awesome rifles.
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Offline mattf

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2004, 06:42:39 AM »
I aquired one in 308 a few years ago.  There was a reciept from a gunsmith saying that the gun had a failure to eject and could not be fixed.  That was four years ago and I haven't had any failure of any kind with it.  I shot a deer with it this year too.  Maybe I got one of the few good rifles, but I like mine and plan on hunting with it again.
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Offline Ronnie Starr

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2004, 11:41:38 AM »
:  Ronnie Starr I hunted with one for ten or more year my would shoot 1" group at 200 yd' did have a extractor put a new one in and cure that mine. mine was hand down by my dad. It"s not miss a season sent It was bought in 1962 and was use this year by my son. witch I gave it to him the recall was on the fireing pin . this gun need took down every year and clean good because the gas tube will rust and cause the slide to brake sorry for all the pople that give the 100 win. a bad name but most of the one bring it on there self. P.S. the gun must be cock to dismantle. mine is a 308 in love with winchester in West Virginia.cry :cry: :
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Offline Fullchoke

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2004, 05:22:26 AM »
FWIW Ronnie Starr, I agree with your post. I've had a 100 in .308W for about 30 years. Got it in a trade with a hunting buddy who "needed" my 336T for his nephew. After the firing pin recall, I've had no trouble at all from this rifle. I think the secret, as you mention, is "KEEP IT CLEAN". These are a little tricky the first time you take them down, but it can be done.
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M 100 308
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2004, 03:41:13 PM »
I have hunted with mine since 70-71  never missed yet, they have the best site picture of any  deer rifle I have, cept maybe my 250 savage, maybe I might need to clean the gas chamber, never done it, think I'll leave it alone.  All I have ever done is clean the bore and wash out the reciever with wd-40...    Shome
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