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« on: June 28, 2004, 02:36:06 AM »
This is all copied from the yahoo forum. Excellent idea by perklo.


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I decided to make an improved breechplug tool based on ideas from other members of the H&R 1871 Talk board, but without the welding or machining...
First, I went to my local Sears. Their hardware department had the 12 pt, 21mm socket for about $6.00, and a 3/8" to 1/2" ratchet adapter for around $3.50. I took the tool with me to check the fit between a 21 and 22mm socket. It slid into the 21mm so tight, I had to knock it out through the drive hole with a wooden dowel when I got home. I stopped by the local AutoZone as well, and bought the stubby 3/8" ratchet and a pack of JB Weld Kwik. Total for all parts was about $20.00.
I had to find something to set the plug tool out about 3/16" to 1/4" from the socket to allow it to reach into the breech recess. Brands of sockets have different depths, but the breech plug tool must stick out from the socket a bit to work.
I put the 3/8 to 1/2" adapter in the drive hole, turned the socket so the opening was up and the adapter was down and put a 5/16" nut down into the socket as a spacer. To give the JB Weld something to bite onto, I roughed up the sides of the breech plug tool with some 100 grit sandpaper in a crosshatch pattern. Finally I degreased the parts and mixed up the JB Weld according to the package instructions. Then I filled the socket with the JB Weld and tapped the plug tool in until it hit the nut/spacer. The finishing touch was to wipe off the extra JB Weld with some paper towels. Let the assembly cure overnight (or longer) before using. The second pix shows how the JB Weld filled the gaps in the 12 pt socket against the plug tool. Sears didn't have the JB Weld and their stubby ratchet was $20.00; AutoZone had the 3/8 to 1/2" adapter as well, but their 21mm socket was a 6 pt - not nearly as gripping for this job. Since doing this job, I have found that Lowe's had all the supplies and Home Depot didn't have the socket. I have had one person tell me that they had found a 12 pt, 21mm socket with a 3/8" drive hole, so they didn't need the adapter - so much the better. Some last insights; at home it is best to use a full-sized ratchet to pull the plug - leverage is your friend. Don't waste your money on the breech plug greases from T/C, Knight etc. - they don't work well for the huntsman. Go to an auto parts store and get either the Permatex Anti-Seize Lubricant or Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant. These are made to allow removal of O2 sensors and spark plugs after 50,000 miles in a hot engine and protect up to 1600 to 1800 degrees. Since using them I can pull the plug easily while the barrel is still on the frame after 10-15 range shots.

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2004, 03:03:31 AM »
I was going to try this after seeing it on the old H&R forum but instead I got a 4 inch long 3/8 inch ratcket extension and ground the end(where the socket goes) flat and welded it to the breech plug tool. It ain't pretty, but it works and the 4 inch extension clears the scope tube.

I use spark plug anti-seize on my Huntsman. Works great.
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2004, 01:58:40 PM »
Do you know who sells a breach tool, I had bought the barrel, but have no tool?

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2004, 02:12:52 PM »
I think you have to order the breech tool from H&R 1871.  I have seen somewhere a replacement breech plug for the Huntsman, that takes a standard socket (7/16"), like the Encore.  It gives a better grip on the Breech plug /and you can get more leverage without the risk of slipping.  Still uses the primer carrier.  I just can't remember where I seen it advertised.
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2004, 04:16:31 PM »
Very clever. Thanks for sharing that with us.  :D
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2004, 06:01:09 PM »
Quote from: Sourdough
I think you have to order the breech tool from H&R 1871.  I have seen somewhere a replacement breech plug for the Huntsman, that takes a standard socket (7/16"), like the Encore.  It gives a better grip on the Breech plug /and you can get more leverage without the risk of slipping.  Still uses the primer carrier.  I just can't remember where I seen it advertised.


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If you know of a replacement plug, you have got to let me know. Please remember. I don't know how they could use a 7/16" socket though because the opening in the plug for the primer carrier is 9/16". Are you sure it still used the primer carrier. I have been looking for someone to make a plug like the Encore that does not use the primer carrier. If I don't find one soon I just may have to make one myself. I did buy another Breech Plug for $6.99 the other day, now I can get to work on a prototype. I sure would just like to buy one. That .25 ACP brass conversion that PR has for the Encore would be nice to have for the Huntsman too. I hear they are blowback free.
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2004, 03:07:33 PM »
Well articulated Like2hunt.

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2005, 03:34:01 AM »
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