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« on: June 09, 2004, 02:52:41 AM »
Hi guy`s  :D
   Here`s an interesting photo, from the GCBRO site, that a person had taken of an unknown animal in his back yard over his corn feeder. The animal was eating his corn. Neighbors didn`t believe him, till he got a picture of it.
http://www.news-record.com/news/local/rand/creature_060304.htm
http:www.bergen.org/smithsonian/ManedWolf/picture.html

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2004, 02:54:59 AM »
Also go to
http:www.bergen.org/smithsonian/ManedWolf/picture.html
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2004, 04:34:30 AM »
thats what I thought to CK, sure is a strange sight though. What ever it is, it`s strange. It could be sometype of hybred, or maybe its an unknown, that we havent discovered as of yet.

  year before last, I was driving home from the store, about dusk, and looked over to my right, and saw this hyena looking animal about the size of a small 60lb deer. Narrow hips, broad head and long ears, broad chest. It was running from me as I was driving down a country road, next to an opening in the woods. I don`t know what it was, but all I can say is there are some strange things yet to be found in our great out doors.

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2004, 05:25:32 AM »
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That animal looks like an African Black-backed Jackal without nearly all its hair!
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2004, 06:32:34 AM »
Hi L-Roy
  If you happen to have a picture of one, put it on here and lets compare them. I ain`t never seen one.

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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2004, 08:04:16 AM »
Looks like a Kangaroo Fox.  Wonder if it was somebody's pet that got loose.  Also, Foxes are a part of the Cat family and who knows yet if they can interbreed?????  Mikey.

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2004, 08:34:28 AM »
Aside from the obviously shorter hair, this animals tail is tremendously longer than any of the suggestions offered so far.

Also, if you look very closely when the picture is enlarged, the last few inches of the tail appears to be black as well.

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2004, 01:39:04 PM »
Anybody contact the American Kennel Club?  There's a rare type of Eqyptian dog that kinda looks like that, maybe cross-bred with a jackel to get the head right, then brought to the US and released into the wild......

Umm, anybody contact the American Kennel Club?

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2004, 04:16:09 PM »
don't know how to post a pic here, so here is a link to the only one I could find tonite:



See what it looks like,
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2004, 03:07:58 AM »
Nice find L-Roy, it does look just about the same...
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2004, 03:09:30 AM »
Hi L-Roy :D
   That looks like it to me, except for the color of the back and tail. But it could go through a color change, sort of like a deer does, from sumer red coat to the grey for the winter coat. So that could be it.
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2004, 04:22:43 AM »
The Black Backed Jackal's tail is only about half as long as the pictured animal in question. Tail length will vary within a species, but not nearly to that extent.

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2004, 10:54:25 AM »
look closely in the news article picture, what you think is a long tail is a normal length tail with a very dark background shadow.

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2004, 04:17:10 AM »
I've ran it through Paint Shop Pro and enlarged and enhanced it about a dozen different ways.  I stand by my conclusion.

 :wink:

Here's a shot of the tail, enlarged and manipulated as to color contrast and brightness.  It should be fairly evident here.



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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2004, 05:16:21 PM »
looks similar to a jackal, but not quite.  I too think it is an exotic canine. someone should follow up on the kennal club thing. Also, canines and felines CAN NOT CROSS-BREED. God didn't make em that way.

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2004, 01:24:59 PM »
Species that are closely related can RARELY interbreed, such as horses and mules breed to produce donkeys.  (Did I get that back'ards?)  Cats and dogs are too far apart, genetically, to produce viable offspring.

But it sure does look like a cross between a cat and a dog, don't it? :-)

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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2004, 01:56:26 PM »
It certainly does look like a dog cat mix, and I diden't mean any offense, I just new that It was genetically impossible. I did some research on the topic in a Christian Science class, and the findings put some pretty big holes in the THEORY of evolution. holes too big to cross. Id still like to know exactly what that thing is?

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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2004, 01:56:51 PM »
The old game cameras were film-type.  Look at the hind legs.  Those look very dog-like to me.  Don't ask me to qualify that too much.  They appear less 'flexible' than a cats rear legs.

What fun, a mystery.

Michbob

PS:  I'll do a web search on exotic dogs.  I swear this critter looks familiar.

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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2004, 12:19:58 PM »
Hi people;

The photo of the beastie reminded me of a dog breed I'd seen once, but for the life of me I couldn't remember the name.  So I did some 'Net searching, and I found it:  the Pharaoh Hound.

www.dogomainia.com/breed/breed358/

The body is about right, but the head looks much more like that of a jackal.  Jackals are also canids, so perhaps a crossbreeding of a foreign-born pet????

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2004, 02:03:18 PM »
Quote from: michbob
Species that are closely related can RARELY interbreed, such as horses and mules breed to produce donkeys.  (Did I get that back'ards?)  Cats and dogs are too far apart, genetically, to produce viable offspring.

But it sure does look like a cross between a cat and a dog, don't it? :-)

Sincerely,
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Mules are sterile.....they can't reproduce.  A mule is the result of crossing a mare horse and a donkey.  An ass is the result of crossing a mare donkey and a stallion.  A male ass is called a jack or jackass.  A female ass is called a jenny.  Asses are also sterile and everything their name implys.  They, and not donkeys, should be the symbol of the Democrat Party.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2004, 12:14:05 AM »
Asses are also sterile and everything their name implys.  They, and not donkeys, should be the symbol of the Democrat Party.[/quote]

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2004, 12:39:35 AM »
:D Hey, $2P, where else could you get a lesson in both genetics and politics in one sentence? :)
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2004, 07:46:29 AM »
I don't want to make an *ass* out of myself, but I believe your description is wrong. I believe with a bit of checking, you will find that an ass is an animal of antiquity and is the predecessor of the donkey, rather than some sort of hybrid.

An ass is definitely NOT sterile.

A Jack, or Jackass is NOT the same as an ass. A Jackass is a horse sized animal. An ass is a very small critter. the size, roughly, of a small donkey.

http://www.animalinfo.org/species/artiperi/equuafri.htm

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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2004, 10:01:41 AM »
You are, of course, referring to the animal known as the wild ass.  A completely different animal indigeneous to another continent.  The wild ass was often hunted for sport.  

We were speaking of the offspring produced by the crossing of horses and donkeys.....mules and asses or hinnys as some people call them.

I think you will find that a number of different animals go by the same names.  You knew what I was talking about, didn't you? :grin:
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2004, 04:11:56 AM »
Loader 3009:  Ya'll said "We were speaking of the offspring produced by the crossing of horses and donkeys.....mules and asses or hinnys as some people call them" - sorry, I thought you were referring to the offspring of a couple of liberals.   But, it still fits, doesn't it??  :-D .  Mikey.

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2004, 06:39:18 AM »
Unfortunately, all liberals have the same genetic code.  This comes from in-breeding (nobody else would marry one).  Since they are genetically identical, their offspring are not sterile (to the detriment of the world).  In addition, they begin breeding at a younger age than conservatives (usually about 10 or 12).  Their breeding is government subsidized, whereas the breeding of conservatives is not.  Of course, this results in an excessive amount of liberals, but fortunately they migrate, when they reach voting age, to states that appear "blue" on political maps.

Hope this clears things up. :D
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2004, 10:01:41 AM »
Since they breed with abandon and are genetically similar to the Assyrian Ass, I reccomend that an open season be placed upon them, wherein they may be hunted for sport or captured to use as beasts of burden.

But seriously... I had never heard of any combination of a horse/donkey cross being referred to as an ass.  Maybe I've just had my head stuck up somewhere similar????  Then again, maybe it is a local term? whatever.

One thing is sure... it is a perfect mascot for the democrat party.  Fact is, I'm thinking a whole herd of Al Frankins could be produced in short order using that method.. :lol:

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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2004, 10:25:43 AM »
Antlurz, you are a true American. :)  

You are excused from not knowing about the origin the ass.  It may be that it is only known by that name in this part of the country.  I'd just about bet that there is not a single one in Iowa.  Their "creation" is usually, if not always, accidental.  I am sure they would be more common in areas where both horses and donkeys are used for work. such as the Southwest.  

An ass is not a desireable animal.  Because of this, they are very rare.  They are mean tempered, contemptable, and stubborn ....and that's their good points.  Jacks are more vicious than jennys.  They usually fall between a donkey and a horse in size and have heads too large for their bodies along with the long ears and broom tails of their mothers.  Really ugly beasts.  They are utterly useless as they cannot/will not be used for work or transportation.....they contribute nothing.  They just eat and bray.  Yep, just like liberals. :grin:
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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2004, 05:32:00 AM »
Different locales may have different common names for the same beast,
scientific names are the same the world over.

onager(Equus hemionus}-the wild ass of S.W. Asia

burro(-a small donkey from S.W. U.S.A. or Mexico

donkey{Equus asinus}-the ass

ass{Equus asinus}

jennet-a female ass or donkey

jackass-a male donkey

hinny-the offspring of a female donkey and a stallion{ Equus caballus}

mule-the offspring of a male donkey and a mare{ Equus caballus}

Random House Dictionary of the English Language   College Edition

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« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2004, 07:16:22 AM »
Does anyone else have a photo of this creature? The link above no longer exists.