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Offline ridgerunner

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« on: May 16, 2004, 10:29:27 AM »
I am looking for the tool to remove a center pin rod from a Ruger Redhawk.  The pin is bent and needs to be replaced.  I have found the parts on Brownells, but not the tool for the pin rod.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2004, 11:58:50 AM »
The ejector retainer is what needs to come out.  Support the extractor star and it will screw out.  I've worked on the Redhawks before but it's been quite a while...  I've a friend with a 44 and nothing ever seems to break..  The retainer looks to hold the center pin in place and simply needs to be unscrewed.  What special tool are you looking for..  The extractor star supports are universal for a caliber...but empty cases can be substituted although they must be captured in the chambers and held in place.  I use a vise and brass plates to retain the cases...  Do you have a parts blow up for the redhawk?  I may have forgotten something, it's been a while..  I'll look up my takedown instructions and see..
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2004, 02:40:15 PM »
Gunnut69,  I have the ejector retainer out.  If you look at this parts list at http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/Schematics/SchemMFG.aspx?schemid=90 Part # 33 is what is bent.  So I need to take out #67.  It has a notch on it to be unscrewed, but the pin is in the middle of it, so a regular screw driver only fits on one side.  I thought there might be a tool that fits over the pin and then unscrews it.  I may have to just make one, if I can't find one.  I hate to send it to Ruger for them to replace $10 in parts.

 I know these guns are tough.  I bought this one off of a guy for $100.  I have one just like it, so if all else fails I can use it for parts.  I would like to fix it.  The parts I need are only about $10.  I am not sure what the guy did to it, but this pin was bent and the crane latch was broken.  

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2004, 08:23:52 PM »
Part number 67 IS the extractor retainer..  It's been a while but I believe I used a fitted screwdriver to remove that retainer and cases retained by a plate to support the extractor star..  I may have made a tube type wrench to engage the notch but don't remember for certain.  Simply drill a hole in the center of a piece of drill rod for a clearance and file away the part not fitting the slot to provide the bit to engage the slot.  A cross drilled hole for a rod to provide purchase and your ready to go.  If using drill rod it may be heat treated, if cold rolled steel is used the business end may be case hardened..  I know of no one who makes this type tool commercially..
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2004, 12:55:29 AM »
Gunnut69, thank you for the help.  I should have been paying closer attention.  I understand what you were saying now.  It shouldn't be to difficult to make a tool to remove that extractor retainer.  I also wouldn't have thought to have to support the extractor star, but the more I looked at it the more it makes sense.  I am a amateur when it comes to working on revolvers.  Thanks again for your help.  I will let you know how it goes.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2004, 05:47:01 AM »
The guides on the extractor will not stand much stress..  A few once fired rounds in the chambers and a plate on the ends to apply pressure be sure they are retained will greatly support the extractor star.  There are tools made to support the star but for the ameture they are a bit expensive and their main claim to fame is a bit tighter fit in the extractor star rim cut..  this is usually affset by having multiple cases in the chambers.  Good luck!  These are tough revolvers, seldom causing much in the way of problems...
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2004, 04:51:53 PM »
Call the Brownells tech line and tell them what you need. They used to carry that bit as a standard item but have discontinued it because of breakage but they still have some in stock even though it's not listed in the catalog.

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2004, 12:55:05 AM »
Thanks Kend, I did call and they said that they use to make them, but because of lack of interest they discountinued the item.  It sounds like you may know different info then that. They recommended that I contact the guy who originally made them.  I found his name on the American Pistolsmith web page.  He didn't have any, so I just started calling smiths that specialized in Ruger.  I found a smith in TN. that had one he would sell me.  I just have to send him the money.  I could probably make one myself if I had the right tools.  

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