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« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2004, 06:13:38 AM »
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   No they don`t disappear, there an animal, just like anyother animal, except their smarter. They breath, and eat, and drink, they are an unknown species, that have been around for a long-long- time. The fact that they are as smart as any old 7 year buck, makes it seem like they just disapear into thin air, but believe me, there still there. You know how hard it is to harvest a 7 year old buck? Will multiply that by 100, and that`s how hard it is to hunt Bigfoot.

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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2004, 08:33:08 AM »
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I have a small farm that is surrounded thousands of acres of woods. I used to work the night shift ( 11 pm to 8 am ) and one night going out the door I heard some blood curdling screams coming from the woods in back of my house. I am a coon hunter and out in the night a lot but never heard anything like it. Sounding like it was not too far back in the woods I decided to take a quick look see. I grabbed a spotlight and  quietly eased toward the screaming which had not ceased. When I got close I realized that the sound was coming from up in a tall white  pine tree. I got to the tree and shined it and discovered a huge porcupine sitting up there making all that racket :shock: . Porkys are common around here and I see them all the time but have never heard one vocalize before. Later I was told they sceam like that during their mating season so they can locate each other. If you ever have the opportunity to hear one it will make the hair on your neck stand up.


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« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2004, 08:40:51 AM »
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One night camping with the family - my brother was in the tent next to us.  We were camped on the border of a wilderness area and the boundry was the canyon we were camped up on the rim of.  About 2 AM I woke to a horrible screeching sound coming from the direction of the canyon.  At first I thought it might be my brother pulling some joke but after I get out of the tent .44 in hand then my brother who I suspected was behind it pokes his head out of his tent wondering what it was too.  It was not like a big cat definitly not a bird of any type way too deep.  Very hard to explain but a sound I will never forget.  We shined a light down in the canyon and could not see anything but it continued for about 30 min.



I know what and where you're talking about. My brother and I were trout fishing in a canyon which shall stay unamed. Heard them. Seemed to be more than one. It was pretty frightening but we were both packing 44 mags. We stayed close to the fire that night and hiked out the next morning.
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2004, 04:25:02 AM »
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High Bigbill :D
   No they don`t disappear, there an animal, just like anyother animal, except their smarter. They breath, and eat, and drink, they are an unknown species, that have been around for a long-long- time. The fact that they are as smart as any old 7 year buck, makes it seem like they just disapear into thin air, but believe me, there still there. You know how hard it is to harvest a 7 year old buck? Will multiply that by 100, and that`s how hard it is to hunt Bigfoot.

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In one of the russian articles I've read they think it uses the earths magnetic grid in someway to disappear its still present but we can't see it so i guess it becomes invisable to us in someway the russian scienetests weren't sure.  I don't know how much information the russians will share with us in the future but i hope they do.   It maybe pretty sneaky like a 7 YO buck like you said because i know the mountainlions are heck their extinct right? sure they are.                            BigBill

I think that we need to be very stealthy in the woods and maybe a gillie suit is in order too we have to become as sneaky as they are too and move very slow so we don't draw attention to us that we are there very much like a sniper.

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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2004, 10:54:51 AM »
I don't know about you guys,I live in the woods far from towns,know many people who live and work in the woods their whole lives and the closest I can get to understanding your sounds would be a Mountain Lion and the rest is your imagination.Bucky used to tell me I lived in one of the most active Big Foot areas in the Sierra ,though no one I know had any sightings or knowledge of them?
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2004, 12:37:05 PM »
Well I went and listened to the recordnigs on bfro.net and none of the sounds were like what we heard in the woods that night.  The brfo sounds were much higher pitch and more rapid.

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2004, 01:29:23 PM »
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Well I went and listened to the recordnigs on bfro.net and none of the sounds were like what we heard in the woods that night.  The brfo sounds were much higher pitch and more rapid.

H azshooter :D

   The sounds I hear, in Oklahoma, is more of a roar, just like that roar, Arnold did in the movie (predator), only about 20 times louder. They will also make a pecock sound, a laughing owl, which ends in a growl. and a few more that I havent been able to tell what made it . :eek:

   Not everytime will they knock on trees, or click rocks together, and sometimes, you will just hear a few grunts, not unlike a wild hog, only deeper in tone.

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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2004, 01:36:37 PM »
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OK....well I've come up to speed on this Bigfoot topic since recollecting my experience some 30 years ago with terrorfying screams in the woods. Apparently, Bigfoot can produce some horrific howls, cries, and screams, and I wasn't aware of this. Even listened to some audios on BFRO,,,except they weren't close to the cries we heard in terms of pure blood curdling terror.
So BigBill, how do you rate these screams you are hearing up there in the Green Mtns.? Pretty scary compared to what you've heard and read reports of...?
And secondly, if Bigfoot, Sasquatch exists, why has there never been a recovered carcas, skeleton, skull, bone etc....or am I misinformed in this area, too?

............................TM7


Hi TM7 :D

   Thats why they are not believed is cause there is no evidence found. But one might ask the question, We know there are bears, yet no one has ever found a bear skeleton either. Of course we see bears, thats why we know they exist, however there has not been a full skeleton ever found.
Now if you take into consederation, that there are X amount of bears, but no skeletons, found, then how much more hard to prove Bigfoot. Yet we get a lot of sightings from all over the country, but people dont believe they exist, until they see one for theirself.

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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2004, 12:32:27 PM »
The scream/roar I hear is the worst thing i have ever heard and i have never heard anything like it.  My place is out by itself and when the daylite is gone the place comes to life with bears, moose, coyotes and maybe a deer now and then.  But them I have this weird stuff going on too and i don't have a clue what it is yet.                           BigBill

Since i seen tracks in the snow in the higher elevations for many years of mountainlions and never seen one or a body I knew they were there but they are the most elusive animal to find or see but what I'm finding out you just have to know where to look to find sign of them. So why should a bigfoot be easy to find too trust me you never know whats in the woods and with the forests being so large who can say for sure??  They said they killed all the mountainlions just who can say that for sure? Did they walk elbow to elbow across our great country to make sure they are all dead??  All i'm saying that is no one can be sure whats out there and who knows?  Maybe our goverment does and its hushed up? :roll:

In Connecticut when me and my son were riding dirtbikes we would come across skeletons all the time not a pile of bones it would be perfectly inline and all together the bones of a stray dog who was attacked by coyotes and all thats left is the bones.  I've seen this many times over and over.  I'd be a little leary of a pack of coyotes too.

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Recordings of Bigfoot screams, yells and gibberish.........
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2004, 04:48:21 AM »
:shock: Those of you who've heard strange screams, yells and gibberish in the woods might wanna check out these recordings:  30 yrs ago, while camped in British Columbia, I heard the most incredible yell echoing off the ridgetops..The volumne was just amazing.This creature has to have the greatest pair of lungs on the planet..On the following url, (click on recordings, then click on the 4th recording down), I found a recording identicle to the one I heard so many yrs ago.

www.angelfire.com/wa/sasquatchsearch/page2.html

Other recordings can be found here;

www.oregonbigfoot.com/sounds.php

and here

www.bfro.net/REF/media.asp

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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2004, 05:36:58 AM »
The thing I find strange about all the sounds I see postde on the internet is how high pitched they are.  What I heard was very deep much closer to the lowland gorilla sounds here.  In particular the moan and grumble/moan found on the bottom of the page.  

http://www.yorku.ca/gibeault/communication/vocalizations.html

The sasquatch sounds I have heard on the internet sound more like a human or possibly even coyote.

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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2004, 10:28:30 AM »
The most horrible sound in the woods is always followed by the words, "I thought I heard a buck snort".

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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2004, 12:10:06 PM »
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The most horrible sound in the woods is always followed by the words, "I thought I heard a buck snort".


 :shock: Or I stepped on a Frog/duck. :oops:
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« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2004, 12:53:41 PM »
I'll have to spend sometime up there soon and see if I can record something if it comes by again.                                     BigBill

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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2004, 02:11:27 PM »
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I have a small farm that is surrounded thousands of acres of woods. I used to work the night shift ( 11 pm to 8 am ) and one night going out the door I heard some blood curdling screams coming from the woods in back of my house. I am a coon hunter and out in the night a lot but never heard anything like it. Sounding like it was not too far back in the woods I decided to take a quick look see. I grabbed a spotlight and  quietly eased toward the screaming which had not ceased. When I got close I realized that the sound was coming from up in a tall white  pine tree. I got to the tree and shined it and discovered a huge porcupine sitting up there making all that racket :shock: . Porkys are common around here and I see them all the time but have never heard one vocalize before. Later I was told they sceam like that during their mating season so they can locate each other. If you ever have the opportunity to hear one it will make the hair on your neck stand up.


Airedale could you do me a favor and go to one of the Bigfoot sites and listen to the vocalizations of what are suppose to be Bigfoot. I would like to know if you porcupine sounds were the same sound. Thanks WVaNative

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« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2004, 03:12:24 AM »
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Workinstiff,,, the screams I heard in the Green Mtn Nat'l Forest some thirty years ago were far, far, far more terrorfying, horrific than those samples you listed.  I mean really blood curdling.....maybe BigBill will agree. But perhaps the recordings don't do them justice.  In any case, I hope BigBill can get some recordings [photos?] of the variant up there.

..........TM7


TM7  Your right but i think its much closer to us so its more intense too.  I think the dam thing is right on top of us when it screams its not far away like the recordings sound to be off in a distance.  I agree they sound really bad much worse than the ones recorded on the net.        BigBill

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Re: Recordings of Bigfoot screams, yells and gibberish......
« Reply #46 on: December 31, 2004, 06:22:06 AM »
Hi All,  :D

Quote from: WorkinStiff
:shock: Those of you who've heard strange screams, yells and gibberish in the woods might wanna check out these recordings:  30 yrs ago, while camped in British Columbia, I heard the most incredible yell echoing off the ridgetops..The volumne was just amazing.This creature has to have the greatest pair of lungs on the planet..On the following url, (click on recordings, then click on the 4th recording down), I found a recording identicle to the one I heard so many yrs ago.

www.angelfire.com/wa/sasquatchsearch/page2.html

Other recordings can be found here;

www.oregonbigfoot.com/sounds.php

and here

www.bfro.net/REF/media.asp



Hi WorkinStiff,


My youngest daughter picked the exact same recording as you did when we were searching for a sound recording similar to what she had heard when she had her possible encounter with Sasquatch on the mountains just outside (east) of Deroche, British Columbia. After staking out the area for some time after my daughter's encounter, veteran Bigfoot investigator and author Thomas Steenburg heard a similar sounding wail at 4:30 a.m. one July night last year. Thomas described the seven second scream he heard as being almost like recording number five on the same page you provided the link to.

By the way, WorkinStiff, just out of curiosity, where abouts in British Columbia were you when you heard the loud yell echoing off the ridge tops?

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TM7:
And secondly, if Bigfoot, Sasquatch exists, why has there never been a recovered carcass, skeleton, skull, bone etc....or am I misinformed in this area, too?


Of course thousands of people have asked the same question as TM7 has directly above. In all my years of hunting throughout British Columbia I have never found the skeletal  remains of a black bear yet B.C. has one of the highest population concentrations of these animals. Below is a reply I received to my short letter (included below) from K. Mclaughlin, Park Warden, Kluane National Park, Yukon Territories.

Hello,

I am currently writing an article on black and grizzly bears and was
wondering if rangers in Kluane National Park in Yukon Territory do indeed find one naturally dead brown bear each month?

I came across this statement on the Internet and was hoping you could
provide me with with any related information.

Thank-you for your time and consideration.

Ol' Man Mountain,
In the wilds of British Columbia

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Regarding your question "if rangers in Kluane National Park find one naturally dead brown bear each month"?

No , this is not quite correct. Park wardens do occasionally find grizzly
bears that have died of natural causes however it is rare to find the
remains. This does not mean that bears do not die of natural causes in fact
they do, it is just not that common to find the evidence of it. This is
simply due to the fact that Kluane is a huge wilderness area and detecting
the carcasses of dead animals is sometimes very difficult.
In a recent  grizzly bear study in and adjacent to Kluane National Park
141 grizzly bear mortalities were documented from 1992-2000. Approximately 31%  of these were attributed to natural causes.  Many of these were cubs of the year  who's mothers were radio collared and being monitored at the time. Very few  of these would have been detected had it not been for radio collars.
I hope this answers your question. I would be interested in where you
obtained your information on the one bear per month statement.

Sincerely

K Mclaughlin
Park Warden
Kluane National Park


Now taking the above into consideration, and putting the shoe on the other foot so to speak, how many human bodies or skeletal remains do any of you think Bigfoot would find if he came to a town near you specifically searching for them?
Why is it so hard for humans to grasp the possibility that Bigfoot/Sasquatch also buries its dead?

Since I have to believe that Bigfoot/Sasquatch exists because I once found its huge tracks in fresh snow located in an isolated area miles from man's towns and roads, I can only deduce that these beasts are simply undiscovered living animals that are highly intelligent, cunning, stealthy and have us outclassed in the woods by a country mile.
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« Reply #47 on: December 31, 2004, 06:56:00 AM »
I heard the yell several times one night while camped about half way up the eastern shore of Harrison Lake.... :D

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« Reply #48 on: December 31, 2004, 07:28:19 AM »
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I heard the yell several times one night while camped about half way up the eastern shore of Harrison Lake.... :D


Hi WorkinStiff,  :D

I live only a short distance away from Harrison Lake. We are planning to thoroughly check this country out for any sign of Sasquatch come the summer.
It might be of interest to you that Bigfoot/Sasquatch investigator Thomas Steenburg said to me last week while he was at my home that he had recently received two reports of Sasquatch sightings from the country around the middle Harrison Lake.
One involved a logger spotting a Sasquatch standing in the middle of a small creek while he was driving over a wooden bridge in towards Port Douglas. The other involved two witnesses reporting that they had seen three Sasquatches coming out of Harrison Lake on to a beach after apparently swimming a good distance across open water. The witnesses reported that two larger Sasquatches quickly made their up the beach and into the forest after leaving the water. However, the smaller of the three was actually seen stopping about halfway up the beach and shaking off water much like a dog would do.
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« Reply #49 on: December 31, 2004, 08:34:46 AM »
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the smaller of the three was actually seen stopping about halfway up the beach and shaking off water much like a dog would do.


A dog would do it with four legs on the ground. I think so would a bear. Can I safely assume all of the ran upright and the smaller one remained upright when it shook off the water?

If so, kinda hard to confuse them with any other "known" critter in the area isn't it?


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« Reply #50 on: December 31, 2004, 08:48:10 AM »
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the smaller of the three was actually seen stopping about halfway up the beach and shaking off water much like a dog would do.


A dog would do it with four legs on the ground. I think so would a bear. Can I safely assume all of the ran upright and the smaller one remained upright when it shook off the water?

If so, kinda hard to confuse them with any other "known" critter in the area isn't it?


Hi Graybeard,

Your assumption is exactly right.
The animal described by the witnesses that was thought to be a Sasquatch remained standing on its own two feet while it shook the water off itself like a dog or bear would do while they remained on their four feet.
As far as I know, seeing a Bigfoot/Sasquatch shaking the water off itself has never been described by any witness before.
I'd also like to add that the witnesses (a man and woman) were in a large cabin-style boat at the time of their sighting. When interviewed apart from each other at separate times, they both described seeing precisely the same thing.
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« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2005, 03:04:46 PM »
I too have heard some strange things. Always wish I had a good tape recorder. Never seem to get packed though.

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« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2005, 04:17:05 AM »
I wonder if a bear or moose makes any of those sounds when giving birth?
The grumble/whistle .wav beforementioned sounds like the mic had to be right in front of the mouth of whatever made that racket....very spooky though.

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« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2005, 11:18:36 AM »
My camp is on the other side of that mountain range not too far away.  Brandon is right near me just down RT73.  Funny the locals know its there but scared of it and won't investigate it??
Its something you have to hear for yourself to believe it.  It isn't normal and i have spent most of my life in the woods too.

There is a lot of forest land there it runs south to north on the map and i believe it starts out farther south near the ski resorts and runs thru central Vermont up north.   There is a lot of untouched land and some is no easy access to it too.  Years ago we would walk for hours up into the higher elevations on very old loggin roads that became over grown into trails.