Posted by the 1791 society..a regional, gun rights andfreedom watchdog group..

[ironglowz]

   Second amendment issues.. will perhaps help to be better understood by others not in big city dominated, blue states.  Surely, folks in Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota and some others will understand.

    " A message to those of you from out of state who post and laugh at New York State gun control laws---- and tell law abiding gun owners in New York that they get what they deserve for living here:

You sit behind your keyboards in states where liberty costs you nothing, sneering at those of us who fight for it where it’s under siege. “If you don’t like the laws in New York, move,” you say. It's the smug mantra of a moral tourist. It’s the philosophy of a fair-weather patriot, the creed of a coward who mistakes geography for principle. You would rather retreat to the comfort of your echo chambers than stand shoulder-to-shoulder with your fellow citizens in defense of the Constitution that you pretend to revere. You are merely out-of-state preachers of cowardice that wrap yourselves in the flag, but wouldn’t lift a finger if the Bill of Rights were set aflame on your neighbor’s porch---not unless the smoke blew across your border.

You forget that the Framers did not fight a revolution so that liberty could be divided by state lines like some feudal estate. They conceived a Republic, one, indivisible, where rights are not privileges of residence but endowments of birth. To tell Americans to move rather than to demand justice where they stand is to renounce the entire experiment in self-government. It’s to admit that tyranny is tolerable so long as it’s happening somewhere else. The true measure of a patriot is not how loudly he boasts of freedom where it’s safe, but whether he will defend it where it’s dangerous. And if that offends the delicate sensibilities of the “move if you don’t like it” brigade, so much the better.

When your answer to injustice is relocation, then you’re not a defender of liberty, you're its deserter."

[Dee]

I've  actually never heard of The 1791 Society,  so I looked'em up. In 2022 they contributed  $11,864.00 to be split between 5 state political candidates with 2 receiving less than $600.00.
Doesn't look like 1791 has all that much support from fellow New Yorkers, and to call outta state "preachers" cowards seems a little less than deafening.
BLESS HIS HEART
I, as many others from outta state, have noticed for decades, that the majority of New Yorkers vote in their own misery.

US OUTTA STATERS haven't forgotten what the  framers fought for, quite the opposite. Thats why they say Texans have a GUN CULTURE.
I don't know what 1791 leader thought what this little rant of his would accomplish, or your posting it for that matter, but collectively, New York Staters are historically a weak sister in the 2nd Amendment arena.
In fact, I've in all my 75 years, not seen 1 2nd Amendment protest by New Yorkers at their state capital,  or at their voting booths.

[gene_225]

Can't speak to all the states mentioned by the writer, but Oregon and Washington are just like New York in the Gun Control battle, controlled by the big cities -- Seattle & Portland. I suspect Michigan and others probably are also. The writer doesn't seem to pay attention to the national and regional news. So Sad.

[ironglowz]

I've  actually never heard of The 1791 Society,  so I looked'em up. In 2022 they contributed  $11,864.00 to be split between 5 state political candidates with 2 receiving less than $600.00.
Doesn't look like 1791 has all that much support from fellow New Yorkers, and to call outta state "preachers" cowards seems a little less than deafening.
BLESS HIS HEART
I, as many others from outta state, have noticed for decades, that the majority of New Yorkers vote in their own misery.

US OUTTA STATERS haven't forgotten what the  framers fought for, quite the opposite. Thats why they say Texans have a GUN CULTURE.
I don't know what 1791 leader thought what this little rant of his would accomplish, or your posting it for that matter, but collectively, New York Staters are historically a weak sister in the 2nd Amendment arena.
In fact, I've in all my 75 years, not seen 1 2nd Amendment protest by New Yorkers at their state capital,  or at their voting booths.

    Perhaps you misread the sentence you referred to from the article..  The sentence read...

  " You are merely out-of-state preachers of cowardice that wrap yourselves in the flag, but wouldn’t lift a finger if the Bill of Rights were set aflame on your neighbor’s porch---not unless the smoke blew across your border."

  The writer was not referring to preachers of the church kind...but basically anyone "preaching" the negative messages the writer was alluding to..

  Just to clarify...

  That aside, if an American, ordained pulpit preacher when asked, did not back our Constitution, I wouldn't pay him much heed from then on.

[Dee]

I've  actually never heard of The 1791 Society,  so I looked'em up. In 2022 they contributed  $11,864.00 to be split between 5 state political candidates with 2 receiving less than $600.00.
Doesn't look like 1791 has all that much support from fellow New Yorkers, and to call outta state "preachers" cowards seems a little less than deafening.
BLESS HIS HEART
I, as many others from outta state, have noticed for decades, that the majority of New Yorkers vote in their own misery.

US OUTTA STATERS haven't forgotten what the  framers fought for, quite the opposite. Thats why they say Texans have a GUN CULTURE.
I don't know what 1791 leader thought what this little rant of his would accomplish, or your posting it for that matter, but collectively, New York Staters are historically a weak sister in the 2nd Amendment arena.
In fact, I've in all my 75 years, not seen 1 2nd Amendment protest by New Yorkers at their state capital,  or at their voting booths.

    Perhaps you misread the sentence you referred to from the article..  The sentence read...

  " You are merely out-of-state preachers of cowardice that wrap yourselves in the flag, but wouldn’t lift a finger if the Bill of Rights were set aflame on your neighbor’s porch---not unless the smoke blew across your border."

  The writer was not referring to preachers of the church kind...but basically anyone "preaching" the negative messages the writer was alluding to..

  Just to clarify...

  That aside, if an American, ordained pulpit preacher when asked, did not back our Constitution, I wouldn't pay him much heed from then on.

You never cease to amaze me in your perception of yourself,  vs others. I understood exactly what the knucklehead was saying. Your self-righteous down talking to others while trying to explain the obvious further enhances your know-it-all, superiority belief in yourself.
Your guy is having a mad crying fit rant blaming New York voting on outta state critics, and you think we need a translator.