very few blacks up here

[Lloyd Smale]

but we sure have native american. the second biggest recipients of tax dollar funded handouts in this country. far exceeds what we spend on illegals welfare handouts. seems somehow there off limits though. most of them up here never work other than for cash. are drunks and or druggies and think somehow there special. just yesterday i was on my daily walk on the shore of lake superior where there's signs on the beach at every access that no motorized vehicles are allowed. some scruffy looking bum has his rust toyota on the beach launching a flipping boat. i asked him if he saw the sign and he said im native and can do this anywhere, i asked him why he didnt use the boat ramp 2 miles away and he said hed have to drive 2 more miles!! had his boat full of nets too! they can gill net with no limits and we have to use poles and have strict limits. he said its a right passed on by his ancestors!! told him then why dont you do like your ancestors and pack in a birch bark canoe!! told him he was just glorified welfare trash!! like i said we dont have alot of blacks up here but i will say i met some good ones in the service. as many good as bad. there were VERY few native americans in the service when u served but. MUCH higher percent of blacks that were willing to serve. But up here? i can count on one hand good hard working natives i know thar refuse to take handouts and are willing to work. its even more generational then with blacks. hell theres reservations EVERYWHERE in this country were generations of them have lived free on our tax dollar. free housing, no taxes and over 300 bucks a month in food packages even if your one of the rare ones that has a good job!!! plus they have unlimited fishing rights with no seasons and a deer season that is three time as long and everyone in the house gets 5 doe tags and 2 buck tags and i get 2! blacks want reparation?? natives have been getting it for a 100 years!! add to that there one of the biggest groups of socialists and save the planet idiots in this country!!!

[Dee]

but we sure have native american. the second biggest recipients of tax dollar funded handouts in this country. far exceeds what we spend on illegals welfare handouts. seems somehow there off limits though. most of them up here never work other than for cash. are drunks and or druggies and think somehow there special. just yesterday i was on my daily walk on the shore of lake superior where there's signs on the beach at every access that no motorized vehicles are allowed. some scruffy looking bum has his rust toyota on the beach launching a flipping boat. i asked him if he saw the sign and he said im native and can do this anywhere, i asked him why he didnt use the boat ramp 2 miles away and he said hed have to drive 2 more miles!! had his boat full of nets too! they can gill net with no limits and we have to use poles and have strict limits. he said its a right passed on by his ancestors!! told him then why dont you do like your ancestors and pack in a birch bark canoe!! told him he was just glorified welfare trash!! like i said we dont have alot of blacks up here but i will say i met some good ones in the service. as many good as bad. there were VERY few native americans in the service when u served but. MUCH higher percent of blacks that were willing to serve. But up here? i can count on one hand good hard working natives i know thar refuse to take handouts and are willing to work. its even more generational then with blacks. hell theres reservations EVERYWHERE in this country were generations of them have lived free on our tax dollar. free housing, no taxes and over 300 bucks a month in food packages even if your one of the rare ones that has a good job!!! plus they have unlimited fishing rights with no seasons and a deer season that is three time as long and everyone in the house gets 5 doe tags and 2 buck tags and i get 2! blacks want reparation?? natives have been getting it for a 100 years!! add to that there one of the biggest groups of socialists and save the planet idiots in this country!!!

A different perspective.
The native American tribes here help finance local school systems, help counties with road and bridge maintenance, and support local charities.
My tribe, the Cherokee have a pac with 4 other tribes, where any of the 5 civilized tribes members can go to the others doctors, clinics, or hospitals and be treated for free.
My children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and so on, can go to college free, and should any of us need or want free housing the Cherokee Nation will provide it on the reservation.
The 5 Civilized Tribes down here are very active in community support, employ all races without prejudice, and are the first to contribute to local causes.
All 5 of the tribes in my area are not only self sufficient but use their tribal wealth to enrich other communities whether, native American, black, white, or peppermint striped.

The 5 Civilized Tribes including my tribe, the Cherokee, have successfully assimilated into local customs, and culture. Perhaps thats what the local native Americans have done in someone else's area.

Furthermore, to say that the native American Indian haven't contributed to the Un-United States military, is showing someones ignorance, and disrespect.

I have 2 Cherokee sons who served honorably, one with 3 combat tours with the 82nd Airborne, (he wasn't bustin flats or paintin boats) which is by far more combat service than someone else ever did, WHICH WAS ZERO.

I PERSONALLY, wore that flag on my shoulder for 21 years, almost 4 times someone elses service, and have the scars to prove it. AND IM NATIVE AMERICAN "CHEROKEE".

IRA HAYAS, A PIMA INDIAN HELPED RAISE THE NATIONAL FLAG ON IWO JIMA, THE CODE TALKERS, AND SO ON, AND SO ON. EDUCATE YOURSELF!.

Someone spent 5 or 6 years floatin around in peace time.  SO WHAT! A lot of folks did. Goldie for one, but he doesn't use it as a measuring stick for everyone,  and everything American.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/native-americans-role-world-war-ii.html

[Goldie]

I grew up with very few blacks in my hometown in Northern Arizona, but went 1st through 12th grade with Navajo, Hualapai, and Supai Indians. All three are proud tribes and met a lot of good people from them, also met some aholes. But the same goes for the white population. There was a Navajo gentleman who raised 6 sons who refused to live on the reservation and worked for the Sante Fe railroad until he retired. Granted, some reservations you see are prone to underdevelopment, and poverty exists, but so do white communities.

[Lloyd Smale]

up here they run casino's block gas pipelines and contribute nothing to schools other than consuming free breakfast and lunck thankfully 2/3s of them drop out by 10th grade. cant see how someone will come to thier defense but bash black reparations that have been going on for a 100 years! maybe they help some in your area but id bet more tax money is spent on those reparations than they put into the economy. just look at the money they cost this country in blocked energy production!! look what side most of them are on with green energy, global warming, medicate and heck id like to see real numbers on how the entire native population has voted over the last 4 elections. i hear it all the time. "the blacks should get nothing because none of those slaves are still alive. show me an indian thats had his land taken away or were slautered. its time ALL OF THESE welfare programs are ended. want a house. go to work and buy it like we had to!! why should i pay for your house or feed your kid while you go fishing!!! dont see how this can even be argued.  by the way i never said natives didnt serve in the military, theres even been some heros. but at least while i was in they were the the least represented by population other then muslims. on the other hand go to an army base and half the soldiers are black and the only represent less than 20% of the population. im a member of our local legion (in 2 towns) vfw and viet nam vettes and ive yet to meat a single native here that served. do you have enough cherokee to be tribal? id bet those brave sons that i thank for thier service dont. up here you have to be 1/4 pure. that means either your mother or father had to be 100% and theres not many of those left

but we sure have native american. the second biggest recipients of tax dollar funded handouts in this country. far exceeds what we spend on illegals welfare handouts. seems somehow there off limits though. most of them up here never work other than for cash. are drunks and or druggies and think somehow there special. just yesterday i was on my daily walk on the shore of lake superior where there's signs on the beach at every access that no motorized vehicles are allowed. some scruffy looking bum has his rust toyota on the beach launching a flipping boat. i asked him if he saw the sign and he said im native and can do this anywhere, i asked him why he didnt use the boat ramp 2 miles away and he said hed have to drive 2 more miles!! had his boat full of nets too! they can gill net with no limits and we have to use poles and have strict limits. he said its a right passed on by his ancestors!! told him then why dont you do like your ancestors and pack in a birch bark canoe!! told him he was just glorified welfare trash!! like i said we dont have alot of blacks up here but i will say i met some good ones in the service. as many good as bad. there were VERY few native americans in the service when u served but. MUCH higher percent of blacks that were willing to serve. But up here? i can count on one hand good hard working natives i know thar refuse to take handouts and are willing to work. its even more generational then with blacks. hell theres reservations EVERYWHERE in this country were generations of them have lived free on our tax dollar. free housing, no taxes and over 300 bucks a month in food packages even if your one of the rare ones that has a good job!!! plus they have unlimited fishing rights with no seasons and a deer season that is three time as long and everyone in the house gets 5 doe tags and 2 buck tags and i get 2! blacks want reparation?? natives have been getting it for a 100 years!! add to that there one of the biggest groups of socialists and save the planet idiots in this country!!! do you have enough cherokee to be tribal? id bet those brave sons that i thank for thier service dont.

A different perspective.
The native American tribes here help finance local school systems, help counties with road and bridge maintenance, and support local charities.
My tribe, the Cherokee have a pac with 4 other tribes, where any of the 5 civilized tribes members can go to the others doctors, clinics, or hospitals and be treated for free.
My children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and so on, can go to college free, and should any of us need or want free housing the Cherokee Nation will provide it on the reservation.
The 5 Civilized Tribes down here are very active in community support, employ all races without prejudice, and are the first to contribute to local causes.
All 5 of the tribes in my area are not only self sufficient but use their tribal wealth to enrich other communities whether, native American, black, white, or peppermint striped.

The 5 Civilized Tribes including my tribe, the Cherokee, have successfully assimilated into local customs, and culture. Perhaps thats what the local native Americans have done in someone else's area.

Furthermore, to say that the native American Indian haven't contributed to the Un-United States military, is showing someones ignorance, and disrespect.

I have 2 Cherokee sons who served honorably, one with 3 combat tours with the 82nd Airborne, (he wasn't bustin flats or paintin boats) which is by far more combat service than someone else ever did, WHICH WAS ZERO.

I PERSONALLY, wore that flag on my shoulder for 21 years, almost 4 times someone elses service, and have the scars to prove it. AND IM NATIVE AMERICAN "CHEROKEE".

IRA HAYAS, A PIMA INDIAN HELPED RAISE THE NATIONAL FLAG ON IWO JIMA, THE CODE TALKERS, AND SO ON, AND SO ON. EDUCATE YOURSELF!.

Someone spent 5 or 6 years floatin around in peace time.  SO WHAT! A lot of folks did. Goldie for one, but he doesn't use it as a measuring stick for everyone,  and everything American.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/native-americans-role-world-war-ii.html

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[Lloyd Smale]

simple question. how is our tax money being given to native for reparation any different than our tax dollars to blacks for reparation? i didnt have slave and never killed an indian!!! its time reverse discrimination is stopped across the board!!

[Dee]

simple question. how is our tax money being given to native for reparation any different than our tax dollars to blacks for reparation? i didnt have slave and never killed an indian!!! its time reverse discrimination is stopped across the board!!

Well, since we're primarily discussing native Americans lets look at facts rather than racial prejudices, and let's see whose on welfare based on percentages of race/ethnicity as to the population. Which the link below provides:

When looking at facts vs prejudices we find out that blacks are exactly 1% higher on the welfare dole more than whites, which actually makes up more than 78.6% of recipients of welfare.
My, my. The native American makes up such a small percentage of welfare recipients they didnt even get an honorable mention.

Fact! The 5 civilized tribes of Oklahoma//Texas takes care of its own people, and many whites and blacks in the school systems, along with charities, and social programs.

https://brandongaille.com/welfare-statistics-by-race-state-and-payment/

[Casull]

simple question. how is our tax money being given to native for reparation any different than our tax dollars to blacks for reparation? i didnt have slave and never killed an indian!!! its time reverse discrimination is stopped across the board!!

Huge difference if you care to use your brain.  The natives entered into treaties in exchange for their land.  Honorable people honor their agreements.

[Goldie]

I now live on the Texas coast and have noticed very few blacks and even Hispanics down here. A lot of young people and a lot of older white retired people. Most of the welfare I have observed here is white trash people on drugs or to damn lazy to work.

[Dee]

According  to government  data, plus  the  current  population, there are 203 million whites in the Un-United States, which  means also  there are 80,794,00 whites are on welfare. It also means that with 48.3 million blacks in the Un-United States, that only 19,223,400 blacks are on welfare. There are 3.7 million native Americans, or 1.12% of the  US population.

Now nation wide 19.87% of native Americans live below the poverty line, making them as a whole, fair quite a bit better than blacks, or whites.

Gosh, that means that there are 61,570,600 more white folks on the government dole than blacks, and with the native American only making up 1.12% which is only 3,830,400, it's really hardly worth discussing. Even for a racist bigget.

[Casull]

Not sure where you get your data Dee, but what I quickly found was that 21.2% of native Americans live below the poverty level and only 7.7% of whites (non-hispanic) are below the poverty level, and 17.9% of blacks live below the poverty level.  The percentage of native Americans living below the poverty level is about twice the national average.

[Dee]

Not sure where you get your data Dee, but what I quickly found was that 21.2% of native Americans live below the poverty level and only 7.7% of whites (non-hispanic) are below the poverty level, and 17.9% of blacks live below the poverty level.  The percentage of native Americans living below the poverty level is about twice the national average.

I think I provided a link on an above post.

[Casull]

Not sure where you get your data Dee, but what I quickly found was that 21.2% of native Americans live below the poverty level and only 7.7% of whites (non-hispanic) are below the poverty level, and 17.9% of blacks live below the poverty level.  The percentage of native Americans living below the poverty level is about twice the national average.

I think I provided a link on an above post.

You did.  You just didn't understand the data.  The percentages were the percentages of those ACTUALLY ON welfare from each race.  You surely didn't think that 80 million white people were on welfare, did you?  It meant that 38.8% of those on welfare are white, not 38.8% of white people are on welfare.  The article even says there are 12.8 million Americans on welfare, not the 100+ million you claimed.  So, while whites make up the large majority of the population, they are a much smaller percentage of those collecting welfare.

[Dee]

Not sure where you get your data Dee, but what I quickly found was that 21.2% of native Americans live below the poverty level and only 7.7% of whites (non-hispanic) are below the poverty level, and 17.9% of blacks live below the poverty level.  The percentage of native Americans living below the poverty level is about twice the national average.

I think I provided a link on an above post.

You did.  You just didn't understand the data.  The percentages were the percentages of those ACTUALLY ON welfare from each race.  You surely didn't think that 80 million white people were on welfare, did you?  It meant that 38.8% of those on welfare are white, not 38.8% of white people are on welfare.  The article even says there are 12.8 million Americans on welfare, not the 100+ million you claimed.  So, while whites make up the large majority of the population, they are a much smaller percentage of those collecting welfare.

Your right approximately 72.5 million Americans receive welfare, And whites receive a much higher percentage. My mistake.


https://fortunly.com/statistics/welfare-statistics/

[Casull]

Not sure where you get your data Dee, but what I quickly found was that 21.2% of native Americans live below the poverty level and only 7.7% of whites (non-hispanic) are below the poverty level, and 17.9% of blacks live below the poverty level.  The percentage of native Americans living below the poverty level is about twice the national average.

I think I provided a link on an above post.

You did.  You just didn't understand the data.  The percentages were the percentages of those ACTUALLY ON welfare from each race.  You surely didn't think that 80 million white people were on welfare, did you?  It meant that 38.8% of those on welfare are white, not 38.8% of white people are on welfare.  The article even says there are 12.8 million Americans on welfare, not the 100+ million you claimed.  So, while whites make up the large majority of the population, they are a much smaller percentage of those collecting welfare.

Your right approximately 72.5 million Americans receive welfare, And whites receive a much higher percentage. My mistake.


https://fortunly.com/statistics/welfare-statistics/

Poor article to rely on.  It states that 72.5 million receive welfare and then goes to say that 72.5 million receive SOCIAL SECURITY, which is NOT welfare.

[Casull]

Any way you stack it up, whites are less likely to be on welfare, based on their percentage of the population, than other races.  Well, except maybe than for asians.

[Casull]

Poverty Rates
Based on the data from the 2018 US Census cited by Poverty USA, Native Americans have the highest poverty rate among all minority groups. The national poverty rate for Native Americans was 25.4%, while Black or African American poverty rate was 20.8%. Among Hispanics, the national poverty rate was 17.6%. The White population had an 8.1% national poverty rate during the same period.

https://ncrc.org/racial-wealth-snapshot-native-americans/

[Dee]

Not sure where you get your data Dee, but what I quickly found was that 21.2% of native Americans live below the poverty level and only 7.7% of whites (non-hispanic) are below the poverty level, and 17.9% of blacks live below the poverty level.  The percentage of native Americans living below the poverty level is about twice the national average.

I think I provided a link on an above post.

You did.  You just didn't understand the data.  The percentages were the percentages of those ACTUALLY ON welfare from each race.  You surely didn't think that 80 million white people were on welfare, did you?  It meant that 38.8% of those on welfare are white, not 38.8% of white people are on welfare.  The article even says there are 12.8 million Americans on welfare, not the 100+ million you claimed.  So, while whites make up the large majority of the population, they are a much smaller percentage of those collecting welfare.

Your right approximately 72.5 million Americans receive welfare, And whites receive a much higher percentage. My mistake.


https://fortunly.com/statistics/welfare-statistics/

Poor article to rely on.  It states that 72.5 million receive welfare and then goes to say that 72.5 million receive SOCIAL SECURITY, which is NOT welfare.

I don't really think there is any perfect data. What either of us accept as good data is obviously not the same. You can think your right, and I can do the same. Typographical errors included. 

Blacks make up approximately 13% of the population, so it stands to reason that more whites will be on welfare simply because of numbers in population.
The 2020 census indicates that 61.8 % of the population identified as white, while 71% identified as mixed white.

[Lloyd Smale]

whats not factored into this data from any source is natives get tribal money, food and housing and free health care all paid for by tax dollars. just welfare with a different name slapped on it. if they didnt get this aid twice as many would be on welfare. id bet if there was a statistic on percentage wise how many whites blacks and natives hold 40 hour a week jobs whites would lead by a big margin. blacks would be somewhere in the middle and indians would be way down in the cellar. for generations theyve been able to sit on the rez in nice 3 bedroom home with free food, free utilities, free medical that covers ANYTHING. only thing they have to buy is a rusty pickup and a bunch of toys.

 go through the local rez and youll see boats, 4 wheelers, jet skis, harleys ect. all in familys that havent held a 40 hour a week job in 4 generations. why work when your the recipient of the best welfare program in the country. contrary to what you want to make me look like im not prejudice. im more tolerant of blacks and surely more tolerant of people prom other states then a few of you here. what i do do is call it like it is. nobody alive today took anything from the indians or oppressed them. same cant be said about blacks just 50 years ago in our lifetime. you flip over backwards if they talk about black reparations paid by our tax dollars when billions have been handed out to the natives in reparations. bottom line is if we didnt take there land, which was ALL of the United States. you'd still be living in Europe unless you a full blooded indian and they would be still riding horses, living in tents and chucking arrows. No, thats not true. if we wouldnt have done it the russians or chinese would have and they sure wouldnt have handed out welfare.

 same with the blacks wanting reperation when we actually did them a favor in the long run. They live in america in a house with such great opportunity that one became president. sure beats hopping around a fire in a grass skirt with a spear!! this is america where if your not lazy theres good paying jobs everywhere especially if your willing to leave mama;s tit and relocate. why should my tax dollars go to ANY abled bodied adult that wants to sit on their ass and milk the system. like i said i call it like it is and dont pull punches. thr worse offense to me with the natives is theyre probaly the highest percentage of any race that are tree hugging save the planet socialists and thats just what reservations and all there free bs is, SOCIALISM!!!

am i predudice? you bet. i detest ANYONE OF ANY RACE that isnt willing to go out and get a job but instead goes hunting and fishing or sits on the stoop of their nice 3 bedroom house with a quart of beer while others work and pay their hard earned money to the government just to have them hand it out in bs programs like this. comical thing is some that PRETEND to be ultra conservative will try to defend this pure socialism!!!

simple question. how is our tax money being given to native for reparation any different than our tax dollars to blacks for reparation? i didnt have slave and never killed an indian!!! its time reverse discrimination is stopped across the board!!

Well, since we're primarily discussing native Americans lets look at facts rather than racial prejudices, and let's see whose on welfare based on percentages of race/ethnicity as to the population. Which the link below provides:

When looking at facts vs prejudices we find out that blacks are exactly 1% higher on the welfare dole more than whites, which actually makes up more than 78.6% of recipients of welfare.
My, my. The native American makes up such a small percentage of welfare recipients they didnt even get an honorable mention.

Fact! The 5 civilized tribes of Oklahoma//Texas takes care of its own people, and many whites and blacks in the school systems, along with charities, and social programs.

https://brandongaille.com/welfare-statistics-by-race-state-and-payment/

[Goldie]

Well, I agree with one thing you said. There is definitely a whole bunch of lazy azzes on welfare in this country, and it ain't gonna change.

[Lloyd Smale]

amen and its time we start to change that. thank God we have a president that agrees. hes even at least changing the confederate named bases back to what their real names are. returning confederate statues back and renaming sports teams and school names to the originals that were insanely changed to kiss the asses of indians. up here a major gas line that the indians and greenies tried to stop went through and it would have never happened if the democrats won the election. pretty simple argument if you ask me. do you support socialist programs or not? welfare reparations for blacks or indians, snap programs, medicaid for those able to work is all just socialism that you and i pay for!! its all just welfare for lazy good for nothings. there is no acceptable or unacceptable socialism. its just buying votes for the left. if you support it or think its ok for one group but not another or turn a blind eye to it you are supporting the far left plain and simple. 

Well, I agree with one thing you said. There is definitely a whole bunch of lazy azzes on welfare in this country, and it ain't gonna change.

[Bob Riebe]

     American Indians serve in the U.S. military at a higher rate than any other ethnic or racial group. Since 9/11, nearly 19% of Native Americans have served in the armed forces, compared to an average of 14% for all other ethnicities, according to the United Service Organizations. This represents a long-standing tradition of military service among Native Americans, with strong participation in all major U.S. conflicts

     American Indians social actions varies all across the country, you cannot judge the whole by the a small sample.   While driving through the Badlands some years back we saw some literally lying in the road ditch passed out with empty beer cans case nearby, but that area has a well know problem with alcohol, not denied by local Indian authorities. -- at the same time up North in South Dakota by Eagle Butte, just off  U.S. 212 the Indian were NOT drunk and very well organized and down the road some miles was an American Indian University.

     The U.S. Government crapped all over the American Indians with BS treaties but now some of those lies being dealt with in court, are as the old saying goes: What goes around , Comes around.

[Lloyd Smale]

maybe this is why i didnt see but a couple https://www.statista.com/statistics/214869/share-of-active-duty-enlisted-women-and-men-in-the-us-military/  i guess you have to also keep in mind i served in the coast guard and navy. wasnt even many blacks comparatively in the coast guard at that time but when i did tad with the army at fort Benning  it seemed it was at least half black then. except ranger school. the white level was much higher with the marines. at least at Camp Lejeune. good chance natives werent noticed because theres not that many indians, at least up here, that even look indian anymore. most are more white than indian and at least back even in the early 70s they didnt brag about it. its like dad always said. when he was young his 2 best friends were indians and insisted they were french canadian all through school. that is until the free stuff from Roosevelts new deal and extra hunting liciences started to be handed out and then they were all proud indians.

[Goldie]

I don't know about other armed forces but when I was in the army, I ran across quite a few American Indians, and most if not all I knew were damn good people. I think atrocities have plagued civilizations since the beginning of time, and to single out groups of people for what the United States has caused the majority of problems is wrong. Except liberal Democrats,s which are in a league by themselves.

[Lloyd Smale]

thing is a high percentage of them are liberal democrats, many far left!! like i said where would they be today if we wouldnt have expanded. like i said all of us are living on land once controlled by natives. are you giving back your home??? do you want your tax dollars sent on these welfare programs?? you ever feel the need to apologize to the blacks because long ago they were taken from their homes or have you apologized for the texans that killed thousand of natives and mexicans to take their land. i sure as hell wont and i dont feel i should have to support their baby mama's or pay for medical thats better than anyone here!! unless you get full Medicaid or buy them a 3 bedroom ranch thats probably nicer than the house you spent 30 years WORKING to pay off. Like i said its simple. Do you believe in socialism or not?!

I don't know about other armed forces but when I was in the army I ran across quite a few American Indians and most if not all I knew were damn good people. I think atracities has plague civilization since the beginning of time and to single out groups of people for what the United States has caused the majority of problems is wrong. With the exception of liberal Democrats which are in a league by themselves.

[ironglowz]

  While I am very hesitant to paint any racial or ethnic group with a broad brush of distain...there are many anomalies present in today's culture.

  I have 3 reservations in my county.. all of the Seneca tribe of the Iroquois confederacy.  They have a proud past, being the "keepers of the western door", which was their assignment within the Iroquois nations.

  Just as the Comanche have been considered some of the world's best light cavalry,  bar none..the Senecas have been held by many historians as the best hand-to-hand woodland warriors..of all the tribes.

  Today my heart breaks, as I drive through the reservations, and I see, it seems.. marijuana "dispensaries", selling their wares at nearly every other house.

  ...And of course, they also deal in liquors and gambling casinos..  Perhaps it is just me, but I hate to see a once proud "warrior nation" reduced to these options.

   Other observations;

  At the discount gas stations and other businesses on the res, such as Burger King, Dollar General or other businesses, it seems few natives are employed.  Most of the
  employees are off res whites.

   I assume because they get paid plenty..from casino receipts and government checks etc.

  I know that many whites work the casino, but I don't stop by there, so I am not able to guess a percentage.

   Consider too, not all native Americans by birth, live on the reservation..many choose to live among the general population, and make their way..just as anyone else.

    Personally, I think it would have been better for all sides, if the tribes were absorbed into the general population of the U.S., and given much time and resources to assimilate. 
 
   However, a deal was struck and signed.  I stick to any pledge i make, and expect my country to do the same . The only exception being, if both sides agree.

[Lloyd Smale]

so your basicaly saying if the left makes a policy that is socialism plain and simple we should follow it forever and not dare try to change it??? welfare and Medicaid were deals or policys made too and i dont know a single guy here that supports them or would have them eliminated or drastically changed. these deals were made to compensate the natives that lost their lands. show me one today thats lost his land!! like i said its absolutely the same as slave reparation! if some future liberal president passed a reparation bill do you think it would be fair to tax payers or should be honored for a 100 years? i just dont get the hands off with the indians. yup they were treated badly and even killed but they also committed heinous acts and their own manicures against innocent white settlers. american blacks asians and even muslims havent done that!! to me it would be like paying reparation to the east germans or north koreans for killing their great grandpas. end this socialism, close the reservations, sell those homes tax the casinos and the many other tax free business they have their hands in just like any other white owned business and let them get jobs and support their familys the same way we had to. i would think if theyre REALLY the proud people they claim to be they wouldnt want or take handouts! they wouldnt want their children raised on a rez just to become drunks or druggies!! they would want to set an example by showing them work ethic and proper values. theyd want to show the world how great they really are.   

  While I am very hesitant to paint any racial or ethnic group with a broad brush of distain...there are many anomalies present in today's culture.

  I have 3 reservations in my county.. all of the Seneca tribe of the Iroquois confederacy.  They have a proud past, being the "keepers of the western door", which was their assignment within the Iroquois nations.

  Just as the Comanche have been considered some of the world's best light cavalry,  bar none..the Senecas have been held by many historians as the best hand-to-hand woodland warriors..of all the tribes.

  Today my heart breaks, as I drive through the reservations, and I see, it seems.. marijuana "dispensaries", selling their wares at nearly every other house.

  ...And of course, they also deal in liquors ans gambling casinos..  Perhaps it is just me, but I hate to see a once proud "warrior nation" reduced to these options.

   Other observations;

  At the discount gas stations and other businesses on the res, such as Burger King, Dollar general or other businesses, it seems few natives are employed.  Most of the
  employees are off res whites.

   I assume because they get paid plenty..from casino receipts and government checks etc.

  I know that many whites work the casino, but I don't stop by there, so I am not able to guess a percentage.

   Consider too, not all native Americans by birth, live on the reservation..many choose to live among the general population, and make their way..just as anyone else.

    Personally, I think it would have been better for all sides, if the tribes were absorbed into the general population of the U.S., and given much time and resources to assimilate. 
 
   However, a deal was struck and signed.  I stick to any pledge i make, and expect my country to do the same . The only exception being, if both sides agree.

[Dee]

There are lots of freeloaders cashing in on the government dole at every opportunity when they don't need the help. Not just a few Indian tribes. Maybe we should sell some of those churches, and tax the hell outta the rest of them.  And while we're cleaning up tax dollar squandering, let's take the tax exemption away from organizations like Catholic Charities. Feeding, housing,  and transporting illegal aliens isn't in Americas best interest. 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/catholic-church-usd3-billion-taxpayer-backed-pandemic-aid-ppp-paycheck-protection.html

https://americanfaith.com/catholic-charities-funding-immigration-surge/

[Mule 11]

Everyone knows why this thread was started…

[Dee]

Everyone knows why this thread was started…

I think it's about racial prejudice, but the truth of the matter, there is tons of governmental taxpayer waste handed out to organizations that neither need it, nor deserve it.
The American Indian was FORCED ONTO RESERVATIONS by the Un-United States Government.

[Goldie]

Everyone knows why this thread was started…

   Yep, pretty much figured this one out. Seems kinda funny to me. The whole blasted USA is getting to be a welfare, liberal cesspool full of hate, bigotry, and violence, and some like to keep spreading hate and animosity. With all the problems we face, the American Indian is the least of my problems, but I guess not all see it my way.