Socialism can work..

[ironglowz]

   According to Ronald Reagan...   https://www.facebook.com/reel/1162500815684540

[DDZ]

Yep, it just plain doesn't work.

[ironglowz]

Yep, it just plain doesn't work.

  Never has, and doubt it ever will !

[Lloyd Smale]

Yep, it just plain doesn't work.

  Never has, and doubt it ever will !

unless you a lazy minority

[gypsyman]

 Margaret Thatcher quote--Socialism works just fine, until you run out of the other guys money!!

[darkgael]

In “normal” societies communism does not work. It is inaccurate, though, to say that it never works.’ In small social groups where members of the group are united by a common bond or belief that transcends ownership of property or profit then socialism/communism works quite nicely and has for centuries. The most common examples are religious groups like Cistercians or Buddhist monks.

[Bob Riebe]

In “normal” societies communism does not work. It is inaccurate, though, to say that it never works.’ In small social groups where members of the group are united by a common bond or belief that transcends ownership of property or profit then socialism/communism works quite nicely and has for centuries. The most common examples are religious groups like Cistercians or Buddhist monks.

    NO, it does not work any where, human nature cannot be overcome.

The Rise of Militant Monks | Lion's Roar
      Buddhist monks can and do experience conflicts, despite the emphasis on peace and non-violence within Buddhism. While the core teachings promote compassion and non-harming, historical and contemporary examples demonstrate instances where Buddhist monks have engaged in or supported violence. These conflicts can stem from various sources, including political tensions, ethnic or religious rivalries, and even within the monastic community itself
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     Cistercian conflicts

    Tensions with the Benedictine order: The Cistercian Order began as a reform movement within Benedictine monasticism, notes Holy Cross Abbey on their website describes. This reform led to contention between the two orders in the 12th century.

    Challenges of expansion and governance: The rapid growth and geographical spread of the Cistercian Order presented obstacles to effective governance, including the efficiency of visitations and general chapters, according to Our Lady of Dallas | Cistercian Abbey.
    Feudal entanglements: Despite a desire to disengage from the feudal system, the Cistercians' reliance on feudal lords for land and resources led to their entanglement in feudal obligations and disputes, says Holy Cross Abbey.

    Impact of external forces: Wars (like the Hundred Years' War and the Wars of Religion), the Protestant Reformation, and the rise of secular governments all significantly impacted Cistercian monasteries, leading to their suppression and secularization in many areas.
    Internal reforms and disagreements: Attempts at reform within the order, such as the Strict Observance movement, led to disagreements and even permanent schisms. For example, the Trappists (Cistercians of the Strict Observance) are a separate order that emerged from such reforms, according to EBSCO.

    Balancing isolation and engagement: A fundamental tension within Cistercian life has been balancing their monastic ideal of isolation from the secular world with the demands of hospitality and engaging with broader society. This tension has also fueled internal debates and divisions within the order.

      The Cistercian Order, while striving for a life of peace and contemplation, has not been immune to conflicts arising from internal dynamics, interactions with the wider world, and the inherent challenges of maintaining a complex, widespread religious institution over centuries.

 

[darkgael]

Bob: “The Cistercian Order, while striving for a life of peace and contemplation, has not been immune to conflicts arising from internal dynamics, interactions with the wider world, and the inherent challenges of maintaining a complex, widespread religious institution over centuries.”
I appreciate that is true. It does not address, however, the collective nature of monastic life.
Yes, there are contentions within communities. None of those alter the basic adherence to the vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
Poverty is the vow that eschews personal property, replacing it with common possession.

[ironglowz]

In “normal” societies communism does not work. It is inaccurate, though, to say that it never works.’ In small social groups where members of the group are united by a common bond or belief that transcends ownership of property or profit then socialism/communism works quite nicely and has for centuries. The most common examples are religious groups like Cistercians or Buddhist monks.

  Rarely does it last, even in small communities..  Consider the shakers, the Oneida community, Brook Farm in Massachusetts, New Harmony in Indiana. etc.

  Why, even Charlie manson's littgle socialist group crapped out ! 

[darkgael]

IG: Rarely? There are fourteen abbeys across North America. One of them, the abbey of the Genesee, is fairly close to you.
The oldest was founded in 1848.