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Offline DDZ

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The deep state
« on: July 10, 2025, 09:46:54 AM »
I agree with this guy.  The deep state is here to stay, and Trump can't do anything about it. Now we have Trump cabinet members lying to us, and Trump backing them up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN_BYIxG7OI
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2025, 09:50:30 AM »
Think I have to agree with you also.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2025, 04:28:22 PM »
For me, the jury is still out.  Perhaps sooner or later we will get the "list".  However, we should give it a bit of time though. They could be defending rich donors, or perhaps
  it is being held for security or other reasons.

  I don't harbor much angst over who were customers on Pedophile Island..because they eventually will be called on it.  Yes, they should be exposed, but I'm not losing any sleep over it!
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2025, 04:35:33 PM »
Yeah, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.  There's something there that can't be exposed.  Maybe some assets that need to be protected or something.  If they just weren't willing to show it, they wouldn't have brought it up in the first place.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2025, 11:34:55 PM »
I have another way of looking at this mythical list. When Biden was president, had Trump, or any other name brand Republicans been on this Epstien list, the democrats would have buried them with it.
On the other hand, if there were any big name democrats on it, the now in power Republicans would be happy to publish the names.
Of course, if a healthy mix of both parties were on the list, either party would likely sit on it.
But some think Epstien was a CIA operative to further control the government, and if so, my theory goes in the trash.
Either way, when Trumps presidency ends, everything will go back to normal, which means the corruption will continue to grow into complete chaos, then fuedalistic rule.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2025, 03:30:22 AM »
Seems to me it doesn’t really matter who’s on the list, other than to expose them. I can’t remember the last time anyone was prosecuted and jailed for anything, no matter how egregious. Too many known traitors still walking around free, mocking us taxpayers and with the audacity to keep waving it in our faces. Hilary, Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Comey, Liz Cheney…the list goes on. Far more dangerous than a pedo party. I don’t expect any justice anymore.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2025, 05:05:37 AM »
Yeah there are certainly other criminals that need to go to jail. I really don't care that much about the list either, although having sex with underage teens is a crime. Its the fact that Bondi, Patel and others lied to the American public. Bondi flat out said the client list was sitting on her desk ready for her to review it. Then all of a sudden we are told there is no list. Its the same with us being told there were thousands of videos. Even had pictures of them. Now there are no videos. Have to wonder what other lies are being told. Once you know lies are being told, its hard to trust much else they have to say.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2025, 08:13:08 AM »
Quote from: DDZ on July 11, 2025, 05:05:37 AM
Yeah there are certainly other criminals that need to go to jail. I really don't care that much about the list either, although having sex with underage teens is a crime. Its the fact that Bondi, Patel and others lied to the American public. Bondi flat out said the client list was sitting on her desk ready for her to review it. Then all of a sudden we are told there is no list. Its the same with us being told there were thousands of videos. Even had pictures of them. Now there are no videos. Have to wonder what other lies are being told. Once you know lies are being told, its hard to trust much else they have to say.


If she hadn't reviewed it, how would she know it was a list?  I think, if I recall correctly, that she said the files were on her desk to be reviewed.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2025, 08:41:20 AM »
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If she hadn't reviewed it, how would she know it was a list?  I think, if I recall correctly, that she said the files were on her desk to be reviewed.

No she did not. She was asked a very specific question about the LIST. She replied it's on my desk for review.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2025, 08:56:26 AM »
I guess time well tell. I know there is a lot more pressing problems that need taking care of. This Roundup of illegals is almost at a breaking point. Democrats are coming at Trump left and right. Seems like where I live in Texas you take one step forward and two back. This gas here is a very volatile market, went up 20 cents overnight. I don't get it. Just heard where Bongino and Bondi had a big blow up about the Epstein files. Something is definitely fishy going on.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2025, 11:51:58 AM »
 Main reason it's being buried, both sides are on the list. How many Democrats on the list. Probably goes back further than Epstein. Coincidence-Ghislane Maxwell's father, known to have been an operative for both CIA and Mossad, drowned when he ''fell'' off his yacht in 1991. Epstein commits suicide hanging himself in a cell. Virginia Giuffre, main victim against Prince Andrew at Ghislane trial, committed suicide in April of this year. And just a few days before we hear, there's no list and dropping all investigation, Bibi and Trump have a pow wow, and Bibi is nominating Trump for a Peace Prize. So glad we can all relax and forget about it.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2025, 12:05:42 PM »
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If she hadn't reviewed it, how would she know it was a list?  I think, if I recall correctly, that she said the files were on her desk to be reviewed.

No she did not. She was asked a very specific question about the LIST. She replied it's on my desk for review.


It appears you are correct.  I didn't previously see that clip.  But, I still wonder if she hadn't reviewed it, how did she know it was a list.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2025, 12:58:42 AM »
Seems pretty clear to me what she said. We all know there are big and powerful people that traveled to Epstein island to have sex with underage women. Again its the fact they are lying about it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ohPJk8Ukbpo
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2025, 01:15:53 AM »
Quote from: DDZ on July 12, 2025, 12:58:42 AM
Seems pretty clear to me what she said. We all know there are big and powerful people that traveled to Epstein island to have sex with underage women. Again its the fact they are lying about it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ohPJk8Ukbpo

I try to give this administration the benefit of the doubt, but my gut tells me some high ranking dumbasses are being protected by this lie.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2025, 01:33:22 AM »
 Well, looks like Bongino might call it quits. Seems he's pretty P.O. about all the cover ups and lying. At least somebody there has some standards to live by.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2025, 01:50:38 AM »
One thing is for sure, a Republican or Republicans are lieing.
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2025, 02:20:04 AM »
 It us beginning to look more and more like "where there is smoke, there is fire".  Some normally dependable, right leaning news sources are now questioning the situation.

   Sources such as One America news and Real America News...are pointing out the smoke.

  Although I have had respect for Bongino, Bondi and Patel... after following him for years, and hearing his explanation for leaving his own career and radio program,
  I am more inclined to pay heed to Bongino.

  In  any case, there is a bright spot to be pointed out...  Unlike the leftist, lemming/zombies, MAGA members do have active brains, and use them !

  When Boss hog or the lead sty, tells the left how, what, when and the way to think...they all obediently line up and voluntarily take their propaganda pill..

  To the contrary, we see here that the MAGA folks think for themselves, and demand a government response..
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Re: The deep state
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2025, 02:20:17 PM »
“ When Boss hog or the lead sty, tells the left how, what, when and the way to think...they all obediently line up and voluntarily take their propaganda pill..”

That is a good example of the pot calling the kettle black.
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