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Offline Casull

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Powder coating
« on: July 07, 2025, 03:51:48 PM »
Finally decided to try my hand at powder coating.  Here's my first test batch.  Some 315 gn gc fp and some 200 gn rnfp.  Cast these a couple of years ago (several hundred) but have not loaded or shot any yet.  Just need to size them and then try some loads in my Rossi R92 .44 mag.
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2025, 05:55:55 PM »
They looked good until I got to 400X and everything went blurry.  Go figure.  Still they should fire OK.  Just size to fit 0.001" to 0.002" wider than your measured interference fit groove diameter, load starting a minimum or further of 10% below book value for a similar WEIGHT jacketed bullet,  shoot an increasing ladder load test of 3-rounds minimum per target per test watching for over pressure signs, and keep copious notes and all targets for further reflection

I shot some Lee aluminum mold, lead alloy, 55 grain, 12 BHN, Baiter boolits from below to approaching maximum jacketed book velocity and was doing OK with results until the  boolits stopped hitting the 4' x 4' white background at 100-yards where the 8.5"x 11" target was stapled in the middle. It took me by surprise and another minute to ascertain the boolits were evaporating against the wall of air friction within 20 yards of the muzzle. Too soft, too fast, but not high pressure.

Still, approaching 85% of jacketed maximum, and well above traditional lubed lead alloy velocity, I will likely find an acceptable "55 grain pill" accuracy for that barrel in the ladder load data. I also purchased some Rotometals hard alloy for increasing my alloy's BHN. Then I will have an accurate traditional lubed soft lead alloy velocity, a single and maybe multiple powder coated hard lead alloy accuracy velocities, and copper jacketed bullet velocities for that barrel.  I'll probaly never buy another jacketed bullet for it again.

Works for me.  Good luck.

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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2025, 07:53:12 PM »
They are very hard alloy.  I'd have to look at my notes (been a couple of years), but I believe they were at or above 22 BHN.  Mixture of pure lead and type lead.  I forget the nomenclature, but not linotype, the next harder one.  I bought the type lead from a printer that had gone out of business.  Still have about one hundred pounds of it.  I figure to use the 200 grain for light loads and the 315's with gas checks for heavy hunting loads.  I've got several hundred cast and about 250 lbs of pure lead and type lead for future casting.
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2025, 05:23:26 AM »
When you PC GC bullets, do you (can you) put gas checks on them?  ???
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2025, 08:06:36 AM »
yes. there not needed for leading but as typical gas checked bullets for the most part are more accurate and accuracy goes to hell usually when you leave then off
When you PC GC bullets, do you (can you) put gas checks on them?  ???
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2025, 10:05:26 AM »
They are very hard alloy.  I'd have to look at my notes (been a couple of years), but I believe they were at or above 22 BHN.


Retail boolit casters make their lead HARD to preclude the warehouse apes from tossing packages around, which would otherwise damage the contents.  Soft ductile lead boolits would be rendered unusable / undesirable before reaching the customer.  There is no sense in making perfectly formed soft lead alloy boolits if shipping is going to ruin them.


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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2025, 11:36:51 AM »
I wanted them hard for penetration. 
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2025, 12:40:31 PM »
I've never done any powder coating on bullets, but have molded, resized, and loaded many thousands. I'm just talkin, but I think I'd of run'em through a resizer before powder coating. Did I miss sumthin, or is my thinkin wrong?
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2025, 04:55:25 PM »
Only issue for sizing first is that they then need to be cleaned because of lube contamination.  Powder coat first and then size and no cleaning required.  Oh, there would be one other issue if you coat after sizing.  You'd have to size again due to the additional thickness of the powder coat.
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 12:35:48 PM »
Tried my hand at powder coating today. I have a truncated flatnosed 45acp bullet that I like, but the bullet is bevel based and a mess to size and lube. Powder coating solved that problem.
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #10 on: Today at 10:06:25 AM »
Tried my hand at powder coating today. I have a truncated flatnosed 45acp bullet that I like, but the bullet is bevel based and a mess to size and lube. Powder coating solved that problem.


Yeah, I found it easier than expected too.  Let us know how your's shoot.  Still haven't loaded or fired mine.
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #11 on: Today at 10:19:31 AM »
Tried my hand at powder coating today. I have a truncated flatnosed 45acp bullet that I like, but the bullet is bevel based and a mess to size and lube. Powder coating solved that problem.

What's the load you use with that if you're
able to say ?
I used to load 45 all the time with another
fellows cast projectiles. But the last time
I talked to him/saw him, his wife had got
the middle age crazy and put him out and
away from all his loading/casting equipment
and most of his firearms.
Depending on what, I'd use mostly Unique
and the last of my supply of Bullseye
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #12 on: Today at 11:14:59 AM »
Can't get Unique here anymore so I tried CFE Pistol powder. Its the best loading powder I've ever used, and the cleanest I've ever used, so now it's the only powder I use for 45acp. The bullet described is a 230 grain and I'm using 5.8 grains. Its right around 875 fps and will easily cycle the 18 and 20 lbs slide springs I use.
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Re: Powder coating
« Reply #13 on: Today at 11:42:28 AM »
Ok
Thanks for the information
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