removing the nails

[locust]

   If his hands and feet were tied onto the cross to hold him, the nails were for pain, not to hold him on. 

i'm going to disagree with you. nails can be  difficult to get out which is a great deterrent to being taken down by someone that's not happy with a friend up there . by nailing the feet it gave the man solid way to lift themselves up to breathe . no nails to the feet the man would die even in the first hour .  then after the man had hung there as long as possible (within the time span of remaining daylight) the legs would be broken .

  Whether trhe body was taken down , or left to rot seemingly depended upon the situation.  Yes, after the gladiators reebellion (about 71 BC) some 6,000 of the participants were crucified along the Appian way, near Rome.  They were left there to rot, as a warning to other slaves who may havea been thinking of atteempting a similar move. touldn't have emade the residents too happy !

   That action can not have made the locals very happy !

  In the case of Jesus, in 33 AD Jews were rquired to b burid within 24 hours of their death...which is what the Bible explains, concerning Jesus and His burial..         

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Yes, Ancient Rome generally respected Jewish burial customs. Romans allowed Jewish people to bury their dead according to their own religious laws, even when it differed from Roman practices. This included allowing Jews to establish Jewish catacombs outside the city walls, as Roman law prohibited burials within the city. 

''In the case of Jesus, in 33 AD Jews were rquired to b burid within 24 hours of their death...which is what the Bible explains, concerning Jesus and His burial..''

no actually the dead person was to be buried that same day before sundown. Especially true because of Passover.       

[locust]

If Jesus was nailed to the cross before his cross was put in the post hole, the entire cross could have been lifted out of the hole and laid on the ground, then the nails removed.  Who cares, Christianity isn't worried about details, it is by faith. 

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Without Faith it is impossible to please God. 

A Christian has God in their hearts and can sense and know when things are wrong, or are pleasing to God.  Hard to explain to a non-Christian.

  Some say Jesus carried the crossbar..and the upright was more or less permanently installed on the hill.  In his beaten, tortured condition
  that crossbar was transferred to Simon the Cyrene.

   But that matters not, since the Bible clearly explains how Jesus was crucified, dead and buried.. rose on the third day, defeating death.. and sits beside the Father.

  He will return for us...perhaps soon..

  I see you are bound and determined to get a cross-member on the pole regardless of the facts . a cross bar could be used to extend the  torture ,it could last for many days .
that was not the case in the execution of Jesus and the other two men. they had to be dead and buried before sundown . men were sent to brake the legs for one reason ,it was to make them die as soon as possible  .

[Dixie-Dude]

If the Romans or Jews for that matter could make nails, hammers, etc, they could have easily made a type of crowbar to pry the nails out.  Or, hit them back and forth with a hammer until they become loose.  I personally don't believe the nails held Jesus completely.  His arms may have been tied to the cross beam to be nailed.  The main emphasis is that He died for mans sin, rose from the dead, is coming again, and if you repent of your sins and trust Jesus to save you, you will go to heaven in the end.  It takes faith.  Just a grain of mustard seed of faith. 

[locust]

If the Romans or Jews for that matter could make nails, hammers, etc, they could have easily made a type of crowbar to pry the nails out.  Or, hit them back and forth with a hammer until they become loose.  I personally don't believe the nails held Jesus completely.  His arms may have been tied to the cross beam to be nailed.  The main emphasis is that He died for mans sin, rose from the dead, is coming again, and if you repent of your sins and trust Jesus to save you, you will go to heaven in the end.  It takes faith.  Just a grain of mustard seed of faith.

you are saying they had a hammer . did they have a hammer ?? or did they just  use a stone to hammer the nails in ? as I have reason to believe there was no crossbar there would be no rope . if a nail the size of a 40 penny nail was used 1 in each hand I am very confident it would easily support the human body

[Dixie-Dude]

Jesus came to earth to die for our sins.  It doesn't matter which way.  The Roman cross was a torturous way.  He could have been beheaded, hung, shot through with arrows or speared.  Does the details really matter.  If a large nail was between fingers, His body weight could have torn the hand away between the fingers.  Some therefore think He was nailed in the wrists.  Does it really matter?  Little details like this doesn't really matter for a Christian.  Research on Roman crucifictions show sometimes peoples arms were tied to the crossbeam before nailing.  Sometimes, if no one claimed the body, they were left on the cross to rot. 

Jesus being a Jew, and by Jewish law, had to be brought down from the cross to be buried quickly.  So, somehow they got the nails out.  At that time, they made swords, hammers, saws, scissors, catapults, and other metal tools.  So they probably made a crowbar, which would have been easier to make than a sword, saw, or scissors. 

[Mule 11]

I click on this thread to clear it without reading and then move on with a big yawn…

[Dee]

Well, hes trolled up 2 pages of responses to this nonsense.

[Mule 11]

I think in my incompetent wisdom he’s waiting for someone to ask “ thee “ questiown “ which I’m sure not gonna

[locust]

Jesus came to earth to die for our sins.  It doesn't matter which way.  The Roman cross was a torturous way.  He could have been beheaded, hung, shot through with arrows or speared.  Does the details really matter.  If a large nail was between fingers, His body weight could have torn the hand away between the fingers.  Some therefore think He was nailed in the wrists.  Does it really matter?  Little details like this doesn't really matter for a Christian.  Research on Roman crucifictions show sometimes peoples arms were tied to the crossbeam before nailing.  Sometimes, if no one claimed the body, they were left on the cross to rot. 

Jesus being a Jew, and by Jewish law, had to be brought down from the cross to be buried quickly.  So, somehow they got the nails out.  At that time, they made swords, hammers, saws, scissors, catapults, and other metal tools.  So they probably made a crowbar, which would have been easier to make than a sword, saw, or scissors.

there is a thing about the nails of that time 2000 years ago . they were not made to come out . its abit different today . the industry has come up with a duplex nail. sooo much easier to get out .
getting a body down either from a standing pole or from a pole with cross bar is more difficult than you may Imagine . the only intelligent way is to lay the thing down . after all it was stood up with jesus nailed to it ,it could also be laid down to remove the body's. face it ,religion has told you a story and its a whopper .
 truth does not mind being questioned .a lie does not like being challenged .