Question for Guzzi or other lefties..

[ironglow]

   It is looking more like Pres Trump may overcome the cheating, and be elected..

   If so, seeing the derangement  exhibited by so many cracked leftists in 2016, it would be no surprise to see violent protests..far more violent than happened on Jan 6, 2021...

    Question for the left...  If this poor, overly emotional core of the left does riot..should they be subject to being call "insurrectionists" and be held
     without either bail or trial ..for years on end ?

  Is "turnabout" fair play ?

[Land_Owner]

Defensive only - shoot to kill. Full Kyle Rittenhouse Defense.

If you go tactically offensive, you better go the distance with the full backing of the Right, or get left out in the cold.

[ironglow]

  I  believe it was on RAV that I heard that of all the people from Jan 6, who the radical left has called "insurrectionists"....none has been officially
    charged with insurrection !

       Are these leftists lying, or just being perfidious..   

[Lloyd Smale]

problem is if we dont win both the house and senate he will spend another 4 years of fighting constant attacks and legislation blocks like he did on his first term.

   It is looking more like Pres Trump may overcome the cheating, and be elected..

   If so, seeing the derangement  exhibited by so many cracked leftists in 2016, it would be no surprise to see violent protests..far more violent than happened on Jan 6, 2021...

    Question for the left...  If this poor, overly emotional core of the left does riot..should they be subject to being call "insurrectionists" and be held
     without either bail or trial ..for years on end ?

  Is "turnabout" fair play ?

[magooch]

All we can do is hope that there are sufficient people with a functioning brain and Donald Trump is elected.  By "sufficient" I mean that Trump receives an overwhelming victory because I think he probably won the last go round, but the Dumbycrats cheated and they will cheat and rig again. 

[darkgael]

IG: I have not followed GBO for a while. Impossible to have a conversation with you guys. Even this thread……specifically addressed to “lefties” (a term i strongly object to. Paint everyone that you disagree with using the same brush.) note that the first four responses are from members on the right.
And…you postulate an “if” situation… a situation that does not exist, a fantasy.

[Dixie-Dude]

Well, what do you think the lefties do.  Bitter Clingers, deplorable, garbage, NAZI's.  The left took my political signs out of my yard at night, starting when Obama was running.  I now have cameras all around my house.  The left is like children pitching temper tantrums while the adults try to reason with them.  You can't.  Some kids just plain old need a spanking, or some national emergency like 9-11 to shock them into reality. 

[Land_Owner]

No rioting - so far s so good

[DDZ]

IG: I have not followed GBO for a while. Impossible to have a conversation with you guys. Even this thread……specifically addressed to “lefties” (a term i strongly object to. Paint everyone that you disagree with using the same brush.) note that the first four responses are from members on the right.
And…you postulate an “if” situation… a situation that does not exist, a fantasy.

Well you not being able to have a conversation with the very large majority of guys here, says you don't share their beliefs, which are very conservative minded. You don't like the term leftist, and my guess is because you own it. 

[darkgael]

“Well you not being able to have a conversation with the very large majority of guys here, says you don't share their beliefs “

Do you mean to say that a conversation is only possible when the parties agree at the get go, when they share the same beliefs?
Look at this thread……all but two of the responses are from deeply conservative members even though the OP was not addressed to them. Their opinion was not sought,….but they will give it anyway.

[Mule 11]

I believe Pete is one of the old democrats who love America and free speech and lack of government control. I don’t agree with him on everything butt he does come to the table without serious insults. He also brings questions that far righties like myself would not and will debate it if it’s kept fair.

[GTS225]

No rioting - so far s so good

To borrow and modify a phrase from "Curly", from the film "City Slickers"............."Day (week) ain't over, yet."

Just sayin'.....Roger

[Dixie-Dude]

Trump has not only won the Electoral vote, but the Popular vote, with possible control of the house and control of the senate.  They have nothing to riot about.  I live in Auburn, Alabama.  The students last night gathered on Toomer's corner after Trump was called the winner.  They rolled the trees like they do when they win a sporting event, and sang the national anthem, and shouted USA, USA.  25% of Auburn's engineering students are in the ROTC or military.  Then you have farmers kids, vet medicine kids, etc, that came from conservative families.  Yeah, a few years ago, they tried to have a LBGTQ parade, but only about 200 showed up.  It flopped.  War Eagle and MAGA. 

[darkgael]

 Dix:   Take look at what you wrote. Then take another look at what Ironglow wrote: “Question for the left...  If this poor, overly emotional core of the left does riot..should they be subject to being call "insurrectionists" and be held
     without either bail or trial ..for years on end ?
Is "turnabout" fair play ?”
If one side does wrong, does that mean that it is ok for the other side to do the same wrong thing.

[Bob Riebe]

I watched all the channels last night/today except Fox.
With the exception of the NewNation/CSpan, it was continuous insults against President Elect Trump by the majority of the talking heads.
Today the dissing of Trump is even greater.

An snide insult against Trump is always added , IF , they actually have to say he did some thng positive.

I loathe Harris, I called her a slut because , gents, not connected to any Conservative item, said weeks back she slept her way into her position of power,  and will never say a positive thing about Walz (who is destorying this state)  but what is done is done and continual cussing insults will server no purpose.

[Mule 11]

I don’t believe the op expected a answer from guzzi, also I believe guzz has been banned for his constant jabbing meant to insult. I believe this post was to bring attention to the hypocrisy of the left...

[darkgael]

Mule :Could be. Could be if one of those lefties were to respond to the turnabout idea. But no one has.

[Lloyd Smale]

better to be painted with a brush than the front sight of my glock. comical thing about you insane pot is its the democrats that based their whole campaign on using their brush to paint us all as stupid red necks. you probably cant hang in a conversation here because your about as bright as Kamila. not really even as bright because you let her and the rest of those socialists brain wash you. at least guzzi has the sense to stay away

IG: I have not followed GBO for a while. Impossible to have a conversation with you guys. Even this thread……specifically addressed to “lefties” (a term i strongly object to. Paint everyone that you disagree with using the same brush.) note that the first four responses are from members on the right.
And…you postulate an “if” situation… a situation that does not exist, a fantasy.

[ironglow]

IG: I have not followed GBO for a while. Impossible to have a conversation with you guys. Even this thread……specifically addressed to “lefties” (a term i strongly object to. Paint everyone that you disagree with using the same brush.) note that the first four responses are from members on the right.
And…you postulate an “if” situation… a situation that does not exist, a fantasy.

  Not at all impossible to converse with myself or others here..simply make your point and go from there... Yes, I did say lefties when referring to the left.., but why should that offend, I take no offense when referred to as politically on the right !

  No need for offense, when considering the root derivation of the terms "right" and "left".  We inherited the terms from our national roots in Great Britain, which came about when viewing the house of parliament, the left side was the area assigned to the liberals, while the right side was relegated to the conservatives.  ...So why get bent out of shape over such a small detail?  So, why do you "strongly object" ?

  Call me right...go ahead..no big deal !

  So I postulated a "what if' situation !  Why worry about it..and why is such a situation inconceivable?

      Judging by the hysterics demonstrated by some of the left, last time Trump was elected president, I see such a situation as entirely possible,
      especially since part of the left is BLM and Antifa.... regular rioters..

[neckisred]

I believe Pete is one of the old democrats who love America and free speech and lack of government control. I don’t agree with him on everything butt he does come to the table without serious insults. He also brings questions that far righties like myself would not and will debate it if it’s kept fair.

Nailed it brother!!! I always appreciate Pete's input.

[Graybeard]

guzzijohn hasn't been banned. He can reply if he chooses to do so. He prolly won't tho as he seems to only post when the left has something to brag about. Sure nothing for them to brag about regarding the election.

[Dixie-Dude]

The left rioted in DC and a lot of other places after Trump took office in 2016.  Trump walked to a church that was firebombed.

As far as insurectionists, the Jan 6th was NOT an insurection.  NO ONE WAS armed to take over the government.  They just wanted to be HEARD by congress.  Trump offered Nancy Pelosi national guard troops to guard the capital a few days earlier.  Trump also told them to go home.  None of this was brought up, but the tweet showed that he told them to go home 2 hours before. 

The rioters after Trump took the Whitehouse was never, by the right considered an insurection, but just what it was, like spoiled temper tantrum kids that didn't get their way. 

The middle and right side of America has basically had enough of the elitists on the left trying to tell us to accept LBGTQ crap, to eat certain foods, to take the jabs or you can't travel, closing mom and pop stores driving them out of business, and closing churches but leaving open the big stores.  Half of America had to stay open just to function putting the other half out of business. 

Don't know how to post the clip of Auburn University students celebrating, but get on X and click the magnifying glass to search and type "Auburn university students after Trump won" to see video. 

[darkgael]

iG: why do I object so strongly about the leftie label. Because it is wrong. It is inaccurate. Here is a case in point: “ probably cant hang in a conversation here because your about as bright as Kamila. not really even as bright because you let her and the rest of those socialists brain wash you. at least guzzi has the sense to stay away “ from our friend Lloyd. Labeling me as a leftie has given him permission to insult me. Has led him to define me as a socialist and to connect me with people with whom I do not share political views.
You fellows have made all kinds of decisions about who I am and what I believe. Based on what

[Lloyd Smale]

iG: why do I object so strongly about the leftie label. Because it is wrong. It is inaccurate. Here is a case in point: “ probably cant hang in a conversation here because your about as bright as Kamila. not really even as bright because you let her and the rest of those socialists brain wash you. at least guzzi has the sense to stay away “ from our friend Lloyd. Labeling me as a leftie has given him permission to insult me. Has led him to define me as a socialist and to connect me with people with whom I do not share political views.
You fellows have made all kinds of decisions about who I am and what I believe. Based on what

:'( let me hand you a crying towel and suggest you stop trying to play with the big boys. maybe join guzzi's commune. yup we made decisions but the real truth is you made it perfectly clear which side your on to everyone here. dont know about the rest here but a lefty will get no sympathy or slack from me. NONE!!! 

[darkgael]

Lloyd: you continue to spout baseless judgements.” the real truth is you made it perfectly clear which side your on to everyone here. dont know about the rest here but a lefty will get no sympathy or slack from me.”
The “real truth” you say. You would not know the truth if it were a dog and bit you on the leg.
Try this, big boy,….quote one “lefty” comment that I have made.

[Lloyd Smale]

i dont have to. everyone already knows

Lloyd: you continue to spout baseless judgements.” the real truth is you made it perfectly clear which side your on to everyone here. dont know about the rest here but a lefty will get no sympathy or slack from me.”
The “real truth” you say. You would not know the truth if it were a dog and bit you on the leg.
Try this, big boy,….quote one “lefty” comment that I have made.

[DDZ]

You fellows have made all kinds of decisions about who I am and what I believe. Based on what

Aaah.. how about from reading your posts for the last 15 years? There are a number of people here that think you vote for American hating democrats. Ever think why that may be? You have never had anything good to say about Trump or any other conservative politician for that matter. You have always supported liberal ideas like denying that critical race theory wasn't being taught in schools.  My opinion is you are as liberal as Guzzi is. Just a more hidden one that likes to deny, and try to hide your socialist stance.

[Graybeard]

Lloyd: you continue to spout baseless judgements.” the real truth is you made it perfectly clear which side your on to everyone here. dont know about the rest here but a lefty will get no sympathy or slack from me.”
The “real truth” you say. You would not know the truth if it were a dog and bit you on the leg.
Try this, big boy,….quote one “lefty” comment that I have made.

OK Pete, I confess, I honestly do not know where you stand on the political spectrum. I've read lots of your posts over the years and still don't have an understanding of what your political views are.

I'll first tell you mine. I'm a far right conservative politically. I'm a fiscal conservative and I am NOT a war hawk. I'm totally against illegal invasion and honestly not even really in favor of very much legal immigration.

I'm not affiliated with any political party but it's been a lot of years since I voted for any democrat and do generally find my views better align with republicans but I call myself an independent.

Socially I'm more liberal than not I suppose. I don't care what two consenting adults do behind closed doors. But it pisses me off to no end when folks try to force me to watch their perverted actions.

So tell us Pete so we can all understand rather than guess. What are your political views? If you don't mind sharing what are your social views also.

[nw_hunter]

Lloyd: you continue to spout baseless judgements.” the real truth is you made it perfectly clear which side your on to everyone here. dont know about the rest here but a lefty will get no sympathy or slack from me.”
The “real truth” you say. You would not know the truth if it were a dog and bit you on the leg.
Try this, big boy,….quote one “lefty” comment that I have made.

OK Pete, I confess, I honestly do not know where you stand on the political spectrum. I've read lots of your posts over the years and still don't have an understanding of what your political views are.




I'll first tell you mine. I'm a far right conservative politically. I'm a fiscal conservative and I am NOT a war hawk. I'm totally against illegal invasion and honestly not even really in favor of very much legal immigration.

I'm not affiliated with any political party but it's been a lot of years since I voted for any democrat and do generally find my views better align with republicans but I call myself an independent.

Socially I'm more liberal than not I suppose. I don't care what two consenting adults do behind closed doors. But it pisses me off to no end when folks try to force me to watch their perverted actions.

So tell us Pete so we can all understand rather than guess. What are your political views? If you don't mind sharing what are your social views also.

I doubt you will ever hear anything but word salad from a modern Democrat.

Example:
This is her solution to fixing the economy.
Harris on Wednesday addressed the Economic Club of Pittsburgh, where she outlined her economic agenda as the Democratic presidential nominee. During her speech, she emphasized the need to guard the spirit of American inspiration.

"We need to guard that spirit. We have to guard that spirit. Let it always inspire us. Let it always be the source of our optimism, which is that spirit that is uniquely American. Let that then inspire us by helping us to be inspired to solve the problems that so many face, including our small business owners," Harris said.


Ask a conservative the same question, and get this kind of answer.
Trump wants to extend all the individual income and estate tax cuts that the 2017 law provided. This includes, among other things, an increase to the standard deduction, lower marginal income tax rates for most income brackets, and an increase to the estate tax exemption.

Trump has suggested he would get rid of the cap on state and local tax deductions, known as SALT. The TCJA limited the deduction to $10,000, but the controversial cap expires at the end of 2025.

Additionally, Trump has called for lowering the corporate tax rate to 15% for certain companies. The TJCA permanently lowered the top corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%.

Trump would also restore companies’ ability to immediately deduct investments in equipment and research. He also has stated he would impose tariffs. Democrats propose comprehensive border regulations. Conservatives want to deport illegals and close the border. In other words....Conservatives explain their ideas, and Liberals make salad. It's become the norm.

[BUGEYE]

couldn't stand it, had to post.
the left is communism light.  and as usual they want to disarm the people.
such as "mandatory buy back" schemes, and, she stated "we will come in to your homes and check your guns.  democrat speak for confiscation.
they want to pack the SCOTUS so as to eliminate the Constitution, and, they are famous for defaming CHRISTians.

They are clawing and scratching to see who can get to hell first.