Just a "conspiracist theory"?

[ironglow]

   RFK jr says the CIA mayhave killed both his uncle and his father..
 
    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3993563-robert-kennedy-jr-sees-overwhelming-evidence-cia-involved-in-jfk-assassination/


   From the link;

  Kennedy Jr. suggested in his Sunday interview that his uncle’s killing in November 1963 had to do with his refusal to commit U.S. forces to Vietnam.


“When my uncle was president, he was surrounded by a military-industrial complex and intelligence apparatus that was constantly trying to get him to go to war in Laos, Vietnam, etc.,” Kennedy said. “He refused. He said that the job of the American presidency is to keep the nation out of war.”

During the interview, Kennedy also floated the conspiracy theory that the CIA may have been involved in the killing of his own father, Robert F. Kennedy, a former U.S. attorney general who was fatally shot in Los Angeles when campaigning for president in 1968.

Robert Kennedy Jr. said evidence of CIA involvement in his father’s death is “very convincing, but is circumstantial.”

  It isn't your grandpa's party any more..nor is it the party of JFK or RFK..

   Watch RFK closely though..he is still no conservative...and could be a "straw man", seeking to run as a Libertarian..thereby splitting off some of Trump's natural constituency.
 
   If he starts talking Libertarian..that will expose a twisted plan.  He is a devoted climate change bird, so he should run with Cornel West and the Green Party.

[Dee]

I've always thought the government killed the Kennedys.

[Mule 11]

Like the government, the kennedys were not even close to being clean...
I was very young when John was killed and even though a toddler I still remember all the women crying...

[Dee]

Old man Joseph Kennedy got rich as an Irish bootleggers, and his boys were born rich little heathens.

[mcbammer]

Like the government, the kennedys were not even close to being clean...
I was very young when John was killed and even though a toddler I still remember all the women crying...

  I remember they were broadcasting live ,when Jack Ruby shot Oswald . I was watching on a old Black & white Motorola .

[Dee]

Like the government, the kennedys were not even close to being clean...
I was very young when John was killed and even though a toddler I still remember all the women crying...

  I remember they were broadcasting live ,when Jack Ruby shot Oswald . I was watching on a old Black & white Motorola .

Same here

[Ranger99]

I've always thought the government killed the Kennedys.

You probably thought that because it's true

[ironglow]

  When JFK got shot, I was serving in Germany.  I had my family there, and lived off post, in the German city.

   The Germans were crying..and some women wore black for days. 

   ...And we troops were on alert for weeks..

[Ranger99]

This area was still a small recently annexed
semi-rural area. More than a few "prominent"
citizens were not unhappy to put it nicely

Everything closed up closed.
Not closed 2023 closed.
Closed up like they used to close on
Sunday and after 12 PM on Saturday
if they were open on Saturday at all

[ironglow]

  With the troops..we watched the Fulda Gap..just south of Frankfurt...that is where the Russians would have tried us.

  The plan was to hold them at the Rhine, until help arrived from the states.

[moamonkey]

John F. was killed on my 5th birthday. I remember my dad calling home from work and my mom crying on the phone. It was a snowy day in Illinois. Didn’t understand at the time.

[Dee]

I was walking out the south door of the school building and a high school student named Doug %/#& stepped out of the FFA pickup and said: The president has been shot!

[nw_hunter]

  When JFK got shot, I was serving in Germany.  I had my family there, and lived off post, in the German city.

   The Germans were crying..and some women wore black for days. 

   ...And we troops were on alert for weeks..

My unit in Baumholder Germany was returned to US soil (Ft Benning, Ga) on alert  for the Cuban invasion if the missiles were not removed. ( Check out Operation Northwoods) BTW Kennedy nixed it...We later formed the 11th Air assault division test and were training for the Vietnam invasion during the time he was killed. His VP and his Sec. of D. were all for operation Northwood.

[gypsyman]

 Few years back, I had been told that the inventor of Second Chance bullet proof vests had erected a tower, and set up a short tram, to duplicate that shooting. Only a couple of well trained snipers could pull it off. I remember when Jesse Ventura had done a ''conspiracy'' show on this. Don't think he or anyone else made the shot. And considering the rifle Oswald used, and him being classified marksman, not making it to sharpshooter status, doubt seriously he did it.

[Tommyt]

 The man behind the wall shot Kennedy
Oswald was just a plant paid to try ,
probably was given the gun with blanks in it.
 They killed him so he couldn’t talk

[mcbammer]

The man behind the wall shot Kennedy
Oswald was just a plant paid to try ,
probably was given the gun with blanks in it.
 They killed him so he couldn’t talk

   Jack Ruby got to him pretty quick and  Oswald surrounded  by Policemen .

[ironglow]

  When JFK got shot, I was serving in Germany.  I had my family there, and lived off post, in the German city.

   The Germans were crying..and some women wore black for days. 

   ...And we troops were on alert for weeks..

My unit in Baumholder Germany was returned to US soil (Ft Benning, Ga) on alert  for the Cuban invasion if the missiles were not removed. ( Check out Operation Northwoods) BTW Kennedy nixed it...We later formed the 11th Air assault division test and were training for the Vietnam invasion during the time he was killed. His VP and his Sec. of D. were all for operation Northwood.

   Baumholder... many memories carried home from there..

[Ranger99]

The man behind the wall shot Kennedy
Oswald was just a plant paid to try ,
probably was given the gun with blanks in it.
 They killed him so he couldn’t talk

   Jack Ruby got to him pretty quick and  Oswald surrounded  by Policemen .

Jack Rubenstein was buddy buddy with most
of the PD at the time,  and had many of them
at the Carousel and fed them and watered em
down, and I would imagine provided entertainment
for a few.  He was a VIP and moved freely about
the station/ jail/ court ( municipal court only now)
The Colt he popped LHO with came from a
store that is still in business, and a police officer
bought it for him so as to get a discounted rate.
Old fruity ray that owned the place used to tell
the JFK  days tales all the time. I've had several
firearms from there.
It's a wonder that Rubenstein wasn't helping to
escort LHO out of the building so as to ham
it up for the cameras

[mcbammer]

The man behind the wall shot Kennedy
Oswald was just a plant paid to try ,
probably was given the gun with blanks in it.
 They killed him so he couldn’t talk

   Jack Ruby got to him pretty quick and  Oswald surrounded  by Policemen .

Jack Rubenstein was buddy buddy with most
of the PD at the time,  and had many of them
at the Carousel and fed them and watered em
down, and I would imagine provided entertainment
for a few.  He was a VIP and moved freely about
the station/ jail/ court ( municipal court only now)
The Colt he popped LHO with came from a
store that is still in business, and a police officer
bought it for him so as to get a discounted rate.
Old fruity ray that owned the place used to tell
the JFK  days tales all the time. I've had several
firearms from there.
It's a wonder that Rubenstein wasn't helping to
escort LHO out of the building so as to ham
it up for the cameras

  One report states , Ruby was paying off a   IOU to the mob .  Bill Bonanno, son of  Mafia boss Joseph Bonanno, stated ,that he realized that certain Mafia families were involved in the JFK assassination when Ruby killed Oswald, and was aware that Ruby was an associate of Chicago mobster Sam Giancana.

[Ranger99]

AFAIK,  ruby answered to the campisi family
here in DFW.  They campisi family came from
Sicily to Texas by way of NOLA, the turf of
carlos marcello .
If you want to dive down a deep wormhole,
start looking at Marguerite Oswald ( of NOLA)
Her brother in law and several acquaintances
were known associates of Carlos marcello.
The psychiatrists/psychologists/counselors
that were supposed to be evaluating young
LHO  all wrote in their reports of what a
self absorbed narcissistic loony Marguerite
Oswald was. At one time she lost a babysitter
job because she was giving the kids drugs
so they would sleep and not cry and disturb
her tranquil moments. Even Robert Oswald
would tell you what a nutjob his mother was.
IIRC she put her kids in an orphanage at one
point while she pursued her own ideals of
what her life should be

[Dee]

Who is Marguerite Oswald?

[Ranger99]

Who is Marguerite Oswald?

That was Lee and Robert's loony mother.
I can't recall if there was other siblings or not

[Dee]

Thanks,

[Ranger99]

I think she had one other child besides
Lee and Robert,  but I can't remember
for sure
I do surely remember that she was certified

Years ago she used to sell autographed
pictures or pamphlets or some B.S. down
at Dealy Plaza

[ironglow]

  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/when-lee-harvey-oswald-shot-president-his-mother-tried-take-center-stage-180953351/

[JeffG]

"Still got the shovel!"

[Ranger99]

"Still got the shovel!"

Yeah,  that was kinda funny especially the
way the scene played out,  but it's kinda
sad/serious too
The last time I heard any discussion of the
subject,  it was said that over a hundred
eyewitnesses had died mysteriously
or committed suicide or been murdered.
I don't know myself.
Still,  been a good bit of arkancide happening
for years

[ironglow]

Few years back, I had been told that the inventor of Second Chance bullet proof vests had erected a tower, and set up a short tram, to duplicate that shooting. Only a couple of well trained snipers could pull it off. I remember when Jesse Ventura had done a ''conspiracy'' show on this. Don't think he or anyone else made the shot. And considering the rifle Oswald used, and him being classified marksman, not making it to sharpshooter status, doubt seriously he did it.

   Unfamiliarity.. that iswhat caused many to misunderstand.  Some writers have said that Oswald being a "marksman", should have been able to
   make the shot quite handily.

   Problem is.." Marksman"..is the lowest grade shooter. Almost anyone can get the marksman rating. Most of us considered the "marksman" badge
    to be a form of 'consolation' prize.

  Most of the troops score in either hih marksman or lower sharpshooter.  When I qualified with the M14 in 1962, out of a company of about 250,
   only 3 of us were rated expert.