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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2023, 09:37:58 AM »
IRA? why dont you come out and call it for the lie it is "INFATION REDUCTION ACT" Best not mention it at a gas station or grocery store or at the bank trying to afford a car or a house for their family to live in. You might get your ass handed to you and it just might be from a fellow socialist. last time i looked even the democrats were in the 30 percent range concerning bidens economy policys
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2023, 02:51:50 PM »
We have depleted our strategic oil reserve.  We have become an importer of oil.  Inflation has driven food and gasoline very high.  I noticed new cars and trucks have drastically reduced their prices recently because they can't sell them.  New home sales have fallen.  Government is over 30 trillion in debt now (root cause of inflation). 

So, the economy is slowly crashing.  They say the unemployment is low, but 50% of young people 18-30 aren't working and 50% are still living with their parents.  50% of liberal arts college grads can't find jobs. 

Government is telling lies.  Government is worse today than at anytime in my lifetime.  It is way too big and wasteful.  $4 trillion dollars in welfare and food stamp spending since 1965 and we still have 13% poverty.  College entrance test scores for ACT and SAT have gone down in the last 30 years, so kids aren't learning.  The US IQ average of 100 has dropped to 98 the last 30 years.  High school drop out rate is very high with minorites which keeps them in poverty along with teen pregnancies. 

Too many illegals taking jobs the poor once took, thus keeping pay scale down.  High employment raises wages.  Too many illegals getting food stamps and government assistance that could be used on AMERICANS. 

Instead of pushing Russia and Ukraine to the peace table, we are pushing war at the expense of our stockpile of weapons and ammo. 

Did I cover most everything Democrats have done or are doing to America.  Oh, the dollar is loosing as the worlds currency which contributes to inflation. 
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2023, 03:38:27 PM »
We have depleted our strategic oil reserve.  We have become an importer of oil.  Inflation has driven food and gasoline very high.  I noticed new cars and trucks have drastically reduced their prices recently because they can't sell them.  New home sales have fallen.  Government is over 30 trillion in debt now (root cause of inflation). 

So, the economy is slowly crashing.  They say the unemployment is low, but 50% of young people 18-30 aren't working and 50% are still living with their parents.  50% of liberal arts college grads can't find jobs. 

Government is telling lies.  Government is worse today than at anytime in my lifetime.  It is way too big and wasteful.  $4 trillion dollars in welfare and food stamp spending since 1965 and we still have 13% poverty.  College entrance test scores for ACT and SAT have gone down in the last 30 years, so kids aren't learning.  The US IQ average of 100 has dropped to 98 the last 30 years.  High school drop out rate is very high with minorites which keeps them in poverty along with teen pregnancies. 

Too many illegals taking jobs the poor once took, thus keeping pay scale down.  High employment raises wages.  Too many illegals getting food stamps and government assistance that could be used on AMERICANS. 

Instead of pushing Russia and Ukraine to the peace table, we are pushing war at the expense of our stockpile of weapons and ammo. 

Did I cover most everything Democrats have done or are doing to America.  Oh, the dollar is loosing as the worlds currency which contributes to inflation.

Wide open unmonitored borders, with millions of unidentified illegals flooding into the Divided States.
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2023, 04:16:06 PM »
If this country isn't in a serious recession by the end of Biden's term I'll be quite surprised. And if anyone does a history check, the Great Depression started in '29. The worst of it didn't actually happen till 1931 and the years following. Something to look forward to--not!!
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2023, 05:39:42 PM »
Inflation and recession by the end of Buck Fiden's term is the least of the damage the Dummycratics (commies) will have done.  We'll be lucky if there is still a place called the United States of America.  All of the higher up appointed and elected commie officials should be hanged and on display in Washington D.C.  The Dummycratic Party should be banned forever from our land.
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2023, 01:05:04 AM »
Inflation and recession by the end of Buck Fiden's term is the least of the damage the Dummycratics (commies) will have done.  We'll be lucky if there is still a place called the United States of America.  All of the higher up appointed and elected commie officials should be hanged and on display in Washington D.C.  The Dummycratic Party should be banned forever from our land.

There already isn't. Its now The Divided States of America
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2023, 01:40:47 AM »
and there aint no mason dixon line today. they live right by ALL OF US
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2023, 01:45:40 AM »
  "INFLATION REDUCTION"  What a scandalous joke !

                                                     2020                     2023

  Gallon of gas                                $2.00                     $3.85

  dozen eggs                                  $1.00                    $2.50

  loaf of bread                                $ 1.50                   $3.00

  pound cheddar of cheese              $4.50                    $10.00

 Pound of grapes                            $1.99                    $3.50

 T-shirt                                          $5.00                    $8.00

 quart oil                                        $5.50                   $8.50

   ...Just for starters..your experience may differ..    Come on Trumpy; i may have been born on Friday..but it wasn't LAST Friday !!   ;) :D

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2023, 02:06:19 AM »
  "INFLATION REDUCTION"  What a scandalous joke !

                                                     2020                     2023

   dozen eggs                                  $1.00                    $2.50

 

Hang on there, IG.  I suggest it's unfair to place all the blame for eggs on inflation.  Let us not forget two years straight of having to kill off millions of chickens due to aviary flu.

Just sayin'.....Roger

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2023, 06:42:00 AM »
Now rounding year one, it remains a work in progress. The Inflation Reduction Act, the Chips and Science Act and the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act are coming into fruition at a time of economic churn and stubborn inflation in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ira-congress-ev-bidenomics-4d1e74d2cf21326e8833885972ad2891

Check the maps to see what Joe has accomplished in the private and public sectors!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/invest/?utm_source=invest.gov

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2023, 06:55:46 AM »
Now rounding year one, it remains a work in progress. The Inflation Reduction Act, the Chips and Science Act and the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act are coming into fruition at a time of economic churn and stubborn inflation in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ira-congress-ev-bidenomics-4d1e74d2cf21326e8833885972ad2891

Check the maps to see what Joe has accomplished in the private and public sectors!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/invest/?utm_source=invest.gov

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2023, 08:34:55 AM »
  "INFLATION REDUCTION"  What a scandalous joke !

                                                     2020                     2023

   dozen eggs                                  $1.00                    $2.50

 

Hang on there, IG.  I suggest it's unfair to place all the blame for eggs on inflation.  Let us not forget two years straight of having to kill off millions of chickens due to aviary flu.

Just sayin'.....Roger
   Yes, but I figure I allowed for that, since I oposted the egg price today at roughly $2.50.  Please keep in mind that at one point after the  bird flu hit, eggs went for $5.00.
   The price then backed off a few months later..       Hens are ready to start laying at about 6 months.

   BESIDES...eggs are not theb  only items that went up so precipitously...I listed gas at present $3.85..but it actually went to over $4.00, and $5.00 in some places.
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2023, 10:52:56 AM »
To stop inflation, the government needs to cut it's budget, pay down the national debt, and close the border.  Also, allow more drilling for oil and natural gas.  Plastics, medicine, fuel, and fertilizer all need oil and gas. 
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2023, 11:03:47 AM »
To stop inflation, the government needs to cut it's budget, pay down the national debt, and close the border.  Also, allow more drilling for oil and natural gas.  Plastics, medicine, fuel, and fertilizer all need oil and gas.

   EXACTLY!!  Nearly the entire inflation problem is due to the rampant spending of the Biden bunch, primarily for "pie in the sky", climate change crap !

   You must remember that biden signed off on almost $2 trillion, almost all for the "climate change" myth !It was a spending spree aimed at the leftist/Commies to gain political poower.

  .. But when the gubmint prints $2,000,000,000,000 unsecured dollares, it makes eevry dollar out there, whether paycheck, savings, IRA or 401K
  worth much less.  Since that is about 8% per year, two years in..that's about 16%..so every dollar will buy about 16% less goods.

  ...And the way inflation works, there is a hedge marrk up by sellers..so it is more than 16%..

   Simple economics..no room for doubt !
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2023, 12:33:23 PM »
The IRA is a joke. If government spending more money actually bought down inflation. We would have zero inflation.
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2023, 01:56:50 PM »
In the spirit of “profitable discussion” here’s a high level analysis on the causes of the inflation we’ve just experienced.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Bernanke-Blanchard-conference-draft_5.23.23.pdf

A more pedestrian analysis

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/27/business/economy/what-causes-inflation.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2023, 04:36:40 PM »
In the spirit of “profitable discussion” here’s a high level analysis on the causes of the inflation we’ve just experienced.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Bernanke-Blanchard-conference-draft_5.23.23.pdf

A more pedestrian analysis

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/27/business/economy/what-causes-inflation.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
Tried to read and comprehend what was in those article's. As Forest Gump said, guess I'm not a smart man. All I got out of them was, they are making a simple problem, into a hard one. Cost of doing business goes up, so do price's. Energy price's, regulations, and controls, tax's,  means a business has to charge more. Period! When government steps in, nothing gets cheaper.
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2023, 06:28:03 AM »
 After considering what Trumpy said about " IRA "... he must be talking abouit the IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY.. because he wouldn't want us to look at our INDIVIDUAL RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS, now that the Biden bunch has wreaked havoc with what we have worked for all our lives !
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2023, 03:37:17 AM »
Yes, I paid taxes on my money BEFORE I rolled into IRA's, except my 401k.  I do not want the government to tax me twice.  Roth IRA's are best.  You work for 40 years, get 3 promotions in the mix, save your money, pay your taxes, and then the government want's to tax you again, no way.  They also want to tax the NET worth of billionaires AFTER they pay their income tax.  Mark Cuban, said the only way to do this is to sell off their companies to pay the net worth tax.  They may be worth billions, but not in money, but in stock or ownership of a valuable company.  It is not in money they own, but in buildings, factories, inventories, and workers.  Elon Musk last year paid more income tax than anyone in history.  He had to sell some Tesla stock just to pay the taxes. 

Same with a mom and pop business.  They may be work a million dollars or more, but it may be in a store, store inventory, or in construction equipment.  Not in cash.  If they have to sell part of their business to pay tax, this is nothing but communism trying to get rid of capitalist owned business.  Mark Cuban said if he has to sell off his companies, it would have to be sold to foreigners because Americas would have to pay the net worth tax, then in just a few years there would be no more American owned business, and we would basically be at the mercy of foreigners or become a socialist/communist state. 

Because of the value of my home, vehicles, and our retirement money, my wife and I have a net worth of over $1 million.  Yeah, when we withdraw money from our IRA's and pension accounts, we have to pay income tax.  We are retired so not earning anything.  In about 10 years our money will be gone if it doesn't grow.  I can't afford to pay a tax on my net worth.  Our money has to last until we die.  I am 70 and she is 68.  So, right now it is not growing much, but during Trump years it grew far more than we took out.  We can't afford another demoncrat in office.  Between low growth in the stock market and high inflation, it is sapping us. 
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2023, 05:31:55 AM »
Mark cuban deserves what he voted for being a dem. The rest of us are paying too, not saying establishment rino’s are any better... Trump was good for our economy and America and it’s strength. Don’t understand how some can’t get past their dislike for Trump and do what’s best for our country.

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2023, 06:39:24 AM »
And our personal finances, freedom and national sovereignty, have all suffered astonishingly, since so many "bit for Biden"...

  Wow!  ..But China bought a huge load of territory, influence and international wealth, for just a few million bucks..
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2023, 06:47:46 AM »
Biden pumped our strategic national reserve dry, and that money made his balance book look better..for political purposes.

  ..But now he refuses to replenish our STRATEGIC national rteserve..so he can leave it for the next administration...and blame
     the budget incease upon them !

       https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/biden-administration-cancels-offer-for-6m-barrels-to-refill-strategic-petroleum-reserve
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2023, 07:39:56 AM »
The strategic oil supply was not pumped dry.
Joe released oil because of the pandemic induced shortage and Russian boycott.
He’s not the only one to release oil :) oil stocks were at 695.1 million barrels for the week ending Jan. 20, 2017, which was the same day that Trump was sworn in as president. The supply declined almost weekly from that point on, until the reserve had about 638.1 million barrels on hand as of the week ending Jan. 15, 2021.

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2023, 09:38:00 AM »
He sold the oil to our greatest enemy, greatest enemy besides dumbasses in America of course and those they back which are sucking the life and morality out of the U.S.A.

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2023, 10:08:53 AM »
By law the oil had to be sold to the highest bidder.
Isn’t it nice to have a President who feels obligated to follow the law ;)

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2023, 10:44:48 AM »
By law the oil in our reserves must be sold to the highest bidder?  So no discrimination based on the nature of our relations with the bidder?  We may not be officially at war with any "bidder", but I have to believe our government isn't quite that stupid--but wait--I'm pretty sure no one would ever have believed this country would have a brain dead moron for a leader either.  Well on second thought, we did have LBJ too.
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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2023, 10:53:18 AM »
He never had to sell our reserves... “arguing with fools amounts to nothing”

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Re: A look at the IRA one year in
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2023, 10:53:57 AM »
By law the oil had to be sold to the highest bidder.
Isn’t it nice to have a President who feels obligated to follow the law ;)

Now that is comical, some would call it gay...